DJ may have been infected at his work places by an asymptomatic case

[Cake Monster]

The Authorities have no clue how this man caught the Virus, and are clutching at Straws me thinks.

[wasabi]

This guy with a community infection testing positive may be the best thing that could've happened to Thailand with all the sure to fail schemes to reopen the country to tourism being batted about. The inability to find the source of his infection (not surprising) and the panicked reaction of people canceling travel plans within a hundred mile radius of where the man lived, some wanting to go back into lockdown... shows Thailand is not and will not be ready to handle the potential of a wave 2 that tourists would inevitably bring. Obviously Covid remains among the population to some degree, but mitigating factors are keeping most cases asymptomatic and transmission low. Otherwise hospitals would be overflowing. I think Thailand has to accept the borders largely remain sealed until there is a vaccine. 

[Enoon]

1 hour ago, wasabi said:

This guy with a community infection testing positive may be the best thing that could've happened to Thailand with all the sure to fail schemes to reopen the country to tourism being batted about. The inability to find the source of his infection (not surprising) and the panicked reaction of people canceling travel plans within a hundred mile radius of where the man lived, some wanting to go back into lockdown... shows Thailand is not and will not be ready to handle the potential of a wave 2 that tourists would inevitably bring. Obviously Covid remains among the population to some degree, but mitigating factors are keeping most cases asymptomatic and transmission low. Otherwise hospitals would be overflowing. I think Thailand has to accept the borders largely remain sealed until there is a vaccine. 

"shows Thailand is not and will not be ready"

 

It's not intellectually and emotionally ready to acknowledge that it's never going to be a (COVID) virgin again. 

 

It's entire effort is focused on trying to prove otherwise.

 

 

 

Edited September 6, 2020 by Enoon

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, wasabi said:

This guy with a community infection testing positive may be the best thing that could've happened to Thailand with all the sure to fail schemes to reopen the country to tourism being batted about. The inability to find the source of his infection (not surprising) and the panicked reaction of people canceling travel plans within a hundred mile radius of where the man lived, some wanting to go back into lockdown... shows Thailand is not and will not be ready to handle the potential of a wave 2 that tourists would inevitably bring. Obviously Covid remains among the population to some degree, but mitigating factors are keeping most cases asymptomatic and transmission low. Otherwise hospitals would be overflowing. I think Thailand has to accept the borders largely remain sealed until there is a vaccine. 

If Thailand is the same as the other countries (and it is) then there's no longer a need to keep the country closed....think about that for a minute...

 

 

[JCP108]

57 minutes ago, ukrules said:

If Thailand is the same as the other countries (and it is) then there's no longer a need to keep the country closed....think about that for a minute...

 

 

That could explain this...

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=USA~ITA~GBR~FRA~ESP~SGP~THA~KOR&testsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=total_deaths&pickerSort=desc

[poskat]

the current zero tolerance for any cases is just not congruent with the reality of a virus sans an effective treatment or vaccine

 

the thai government and medical community have to come to grips with the data that indicates that in thailand virus's virulence is low

1 in 20,000 getting sick, less than one in a million dead, and it is not the plague or ebola.

 

most thais I know believe that they are very likely to die if infected, and that the lack of people getting sick indicates a large portion of the population are infected, just not getting sick, and thats bad

 

when in reality that would suggest that the virus has weakened and is not virulent enough to cause people to get sick

this is actually the sweetspot for a virus in that it doesnt kill the host so can keep propagating

 

I wont be surprised if not a single infected person is found among those the guy came in contact with...

 

at this point in a epidemic/pandemic/outbreak, new cases isnt the most important metric, while hospitalization/deaths are...

Edited September 6, 2020 by poskat

[Anton9]

4 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

But they do not. All family members tested negative.

 

And it sounds like he lived alone.

 

They are focusing on him because he has the virus, had not been abroad so it is a case of community transmisison. Where there is one such case there will be others.

They do

 

"Six members of the man’s family were tested with five found to have traces of the virus. A total of 156 people who came into contact with the individual during his visit to the Criminal Court are to be observed for a total of 14 days despite testing negative to infection."

 

This means he probably got it from one of his family members

 

Edited September 6, 2020 by Anton9

[Nout]

8 hours ago, overherebc said:

Test done when locked up.

He's talking about drug urine testing at the club leading to his imprisonment.

[rucker4012]

Spurious, speculative headline. Just as easily could have said "DJ may have been infected by kissing his dog"

[DavisH]

8 hours ago, Peabody said:

To date, Thailand is averaging 1 positive case for every 461 tests done. Extrapolating to 65 million would mean there are 141,000 positive individuals running around.

Amazing how they avoid passing it on!

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand?country=~THA

You can't extrapolate like that. The testing is not random. 

[DavisH]

1 hour ago, JCP108 said:

That could explain this...

 

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=USA~ITA~GBR~FRA~ESP~SGP~THA~KOR&testsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=total_deaths&pickerSort=desc

And the positivity rate of each country is....? 

[overherebc]

31 minutes ago, Nout said:

He's talking about drug urine testing at the club leading to his imprisonment.

He wasn't tested for Wuflu when he was urine tested. It was noticed he had flu symptoms when taken to jail so was isolated until they got the Wuflu results.

Happy now.

[DavisH]

6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Here we go, getting ready to blame a farang

You realise that it's mostly Thais returing from abroad? Where does it say farang?

[DavisH]

57 minutes ago, Anton9 said:

They do

 

"Six members of the man’s family were tested with five found to have traces of the virus. A total of 156 people who came into contact with the individual during his visit to the Criminal Court are to be observed for a total of 14 days despite testing negative to infection."

 

This means he probably got it from one of his family members

 

So that is reported in the Pattayamail...but no other news outlet has reported that? We will see tomorrow if those family members are reported in the new infection statisitics. 

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, DavisH said:

So that is reported in the Pattayamail...but no other news outlet has reported that? We will see tomorrow if those family members are reported in the new infection statisitics. 

Reported in National News Bureau of Thailand

 

Six members of the man’s family were tested with five found to have traces of the virus. A total of 156 people who came into contact with the individual during his visit to the Criminal Court are to be observed for a total of 14 days despite testing negative to infection.

 

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news/detail/TCATG200905122108233

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Anton9 said:

They do

 

"Six members of the man’s family were tested with five found to have traces of the virus. A total of 156 people who came into contact with the individual during his visit to the Criminal Court are to be observed for a total of 14 days despite testing negative to infection."

 

This means he probably got it from one of his family members

 

Possible but of course he could also have been the one infected first at one of the clubs he works at then passed it on to his family?

[FarFlungFalang]

33 minutes ago, DavisH said:

You realise that it's mostly Thais returing from abroad? Where does it say farang?

Well the Thais would have been infected by falang abroad so still falang's fault.

[Anton9]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Possible but of course he could also have been the one infected first at one of the clubs he works at then passed it on to his family?

Seems more likely he got it from them considering they are only carrying traces of the virus(suggesting an older infection almost completely gone from their bodies?)

[Paradise Pete]

21 hours ago, Peabody said:

To date, Thailand is averaging 1 positive case for every 461 tests done. Extrapolating to 65 million would mean there are 141,000 positive individuals running around.

Amazing how they avoid passing it on!

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand?country=~THA

 

That would be true if they were testing randomly. They're not.

 

[Eibot]

I'm confused. Five of his family members showed traces of the virus..Seems very logical he got it from them, who did they got it from?

 

Anyway,.it safe to say Covid19 is spreading under the radar as we speak. Only a matter of time before they find the next cases.

[MRToMRT]

On 9/6/2020 at 2:23 AM, rooster59 said:

COVID-19 case in more than 100 days, may have been infected at his work places by someone returning from abroad, or by

Only took a couple of days for that to become a narrative. 

[Sheryl]

17 hours ago, overherebc said:

He wasn't tested for Wuflu when he was urine tested. It was noticed he had flu symptoms when taken to jail so was isolated until they got the Wuflu results.

Happy now.

 

Actually the test all new inmates and eep them in isolation for the first 14 days until they have tested negative twice.

 

A very sensible precaution given how quickly COVID would spread in a prison population (as occurred/is occurring in the US)

[overherebc]

23 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Actually the test all new inmates and eep them in isolation for the first 14 days until they have tested negative twice.

 

A very sensible precaution given how quickly COVID would spread in a prison population (as occurred/is occurring in the US)

Wondering if IDC does the same?

[Sheryl]

3 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Wondering if IDC does the same?

 

Very good question...

[JCP108]

30 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Actually the test all new inmates and eep them in isolation for the first 14 days until they have tested negative twice.

 

A very sensible precaution given how quickly COVID would spread in a prison population (as occurred/is occurring in the US)

Didn't the original story say that he was in a prison area with 34 other inmates? That doesn't sound like a quarantine.

[drenddy]

On 9/6/2020 at 6:43 AM, Virt said:

It would be interesting if Thailand tested more, to get a better picture of the situation, but also to show it's actually possible to maintain an open society even with daily infections. 

 

Here in Denmark they tested 1.817.503 people which is about a third of our population. 

We had 17.736 positives so far and 627 deaths.

We're open for businesses more or less as usual, but off course with some minor restrictions, where the mandatory mask in public transport is the most annoying one. Mostly annoying because we haven't been shown any evidence that masks actually work. 

 

 

So Thailand shouldn't get to spooked about having their first local infection in 100 days. 

 

It's not the end of the world. 

 

 

No offence, but nobody cares about Denmark, neither here on TVF or outside Denmark's borders. 

Only danes feel the need to show the world that they exists, hoping that the entire world will acknowledge their efforts. 

 

Please refrain from "humblebrag". 

[overherebc]

31 minutes ago, drenddy said:

No offence, but nobody cares about Denmark, neither here on TVF or outside Denmark's borders. 

Only danes feel the need to show the world that they exists, hoping that the entire world will acknowledge their efforts. 

 

Please refrain from "humblebrag". 

Lovely post.

What's your home country?

Just thought maybe Freja turned you down???

Edited September 7, 2020 by overherebc

[rabang]

2 hours ago, drenddy said:

No offence, but nobody cares about Denmark, neither here on TVF or outside Denmark's borders. 

Only danes feel the need to show the world that they exists, hoping that the entire world will acknowledge their efforts. 

 

Please refrain from "humblebrag". 

That's classy. No offence but I would find it offensive if I got a reply like that. As a matter of fact I care about other countries' response especially as it shows a contrast to Thailand who seem hell-bent on maintaining their zero covid image and the total hysteria about a single case popping up while others are trying to learn to live with the virus. Good luck in preserving the country closed for... forever.

Edited September 7, 2020 by rabang

[NB1986]

The real picture will be shown when people will start returning to their countries so after 26 september but i will not see the Thai news will reporting thus same i dont see news about South Korean guy who returned to Korea from Thailand  few days ago and he was positive to Covid-19... 

Edited September 7, 2020 by NB1986

[DavisH]

8 minutes ago, rabang said:

That's classy. No offence but I would find it offensive if I got a reply like that. As a matter of fact I care about other countries' response especially as it shows a contrast to Thailand who seem hell-bent on maintaining their zero covid image and the total hysteria about a single case popping up while others are trying to learn to live with the virus. Good luck in preserving the country closed for... forever.

I don;t see any hysteria here.....onyl contact tracing. There have been no general lockdowns due to this case. What the authorities are doing seems sensible at this time. Hysteria would be shutting down all the schools in Bangkok because of one case.

Edited September 7, 2020 by DavisH