970 under scrutiny for proximity to infected inmate: CCSA

[webfact]

970 under scrutiny for proximity to infected inmate: CCSA

By The Nation

 

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The first patient in Thailand in over 100 days was estimated to have been in the vicinity of at least 970 people, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) said on Sunday.

 

The patient is a 37-year-old ex-DJ who is facing a drug charge.

 

Of the 970 people, 119 are high-risk and 851 low-risk, the CCSA said.

 

His six family members have been tested and no infection has been found.

 

Authorities tested 137 people residing at Baan Suan Thon condominium, the patient's residence, but no infection has been found.

 

In the Criminal Court, where he faces drugs charges, 492 people were exposed to him, of whom 14 were high-risk (11 tested negative, two results are awaited and one is still to be tested) and 478 have a low risk (146 tested negative while others are awaiting results).

 

Six people exposed to the patient in a correctional department hospital face 14 days of quarantine.

 

At the Central Correctional Institution, 36 inmates have tested negative, but are in a 14-day quarantine period. They have to be examined two more times, the CCSA said. Another group is 78 prison staff and volunteers of whom 24 were high-risk.

 

The Sam Wan Song Kuen pub and restaurant, Rama III branch, where the patient worked will be closed for 14 days for disinfecting.

 

At the Sam Wan Song Kuen pub and restaurant, Rama V branch, 25 were high-risk, but no infection was found, while 35 other low-risk people were in home quarantine.

 

Some 112 contacts on Khao San Road are low-risk but are undergoing home quarantine for 14 days.

 

Out of 970 infection suspects, 516 got tested (513 were negative and three are awaiting results) while others are in home quarantine before testing, according to criteria.

 

The CCSA said that people were dropping their guard on some key issues: temperature was not being taken at entry points; some people were not wearing masks or practising social distancing; they were drinking from the same glass, and not checking-in with ThaiChana Apps as they found the last data was registered on August 7.

 

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[Justgrazing]

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

Six people exposed to the patient in a correctional department hospital

Crikey this story's got it all DJ's , drugs and now hospital flashers as well .. 

[bodga]

26 minutes ago, webfact said:

His six family members have been tested and no infection has been found.

Didnt they say something completely  different yesterday?

[bodga]

27 minutes ago, webfact said:

Some 112 contacts on Khao San Road are low-risk but are undergoing home quarantine for 14 days.

yeah sure they are , bet they definitely wont go out????

[pegman]

Good that the authorities are gong to great lengths to stop the spread. Some other countries could learn from this. I'm looking at you Trump.

[nobodysfriend]

I do not know , but to me it seems highly unlikely that Thailand has so few infections ... Asymptomatic spreaders around , ( how did the DJ become infected ? ) , and just a little testing on the people in the country already ...

It is a little bit like Tschernobyl , In France they said that the toxic radioactive cloud just turned around at the border ...

[JCP108]

4 hours ago, bodga said:

Didnt they say something completely  different yesterday?

Yes. Yesterday, they said that multiple family members were positive for antibodies. 

[meechai]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

970 under scrutiny

What about the other 69.4 million Thai's?....Has to be Thailand to carry the party line of 100 days yada yada yada

Yet never consider how glaring this whole deal is.

 

Carry on Thailand carry on....????

 

 

[chrisinth]

While respecting the authorities contact tracing, it highlights the complexity of what they are facing when one person infected = 970 people of interest.

 

What is not clear in the OP is what happens to the people tested afterwards; only a few groups seem to have been picked out for isolation after the tests but not all? How will employers react to those people where isolation is deemed necessary, ie, will their jobs remain safe?

 

What happens when the borders reopen and we start getting more localized infections; we shouldn't delude ourselves that this isn't going to happen whether from labour forces from neighbouring countries or hi-so's given a free pass (yes, this will certainly happen again regardless of whats been said). Where will they put everyone selected for isolation?

 

Trying to be real here folks..................

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The CCSA said that people were dropping their guard on some key issues: temperature was not being taken at entry points; some people were not wearing masks or practising social distancing; they were drinking from the same glass, and not checking-in with ThaiChana Apps as they found the last data was registered on August 7.

Thai style, I went to a local restaurant the other night with some teacher friends, an up-market local restaurant.

No Thaichana, no signature record, no hand sanitiser, no-one [apart from me] wearing a mask, no social distancing... nothing at all.

No staff wearing protection.

If there was a case in this area they'd have no idea who was there when...

and that's not just this place, it goes for 80% of the area where I live.

 

[Aspaltso]

5 hours ago, bodga said:

Didnt they say something completely  different yesterday?

Ya, I read that traces of the virus were found in the family members.

[chilli42]

45 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Thai style, I went to a local restaurant the other night with some teacher friends, an up-market local restaurant.

No Thaichana, no signature record, no hand sanitiser, no-one [apart from me] wearing a mask, no social distancing... nothing at all.

No staff wearing protection.

If there was a case in this area they'd have no idea who was there when...

and that's not just this place, it goes for 80% of the area where I live.

 

I think people are fed up and have had enough of all this.  

[Deli]

41 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Thai style, I went to a local restaurant the other night with some teacher friends, an up-market local restaurant.

No Thaichana, no signature record, no hand sanitiser, no-one [apart from me] wearing a mask, no social distancing... nothing at all.

No staff wearing protection.

If there was a case in this area they'd have no idea who was there when...

and that's not just this place, it goes for 80% of the area where I live.

 

This is how it should be in a locked up country. All the rest is panic for nothing.

[chilli42]

So how long does this go on?  The CDC in the US has said they would like a vaccine that is 70% effective but will be happy to go with on that is 50% effective.  Then there is manufacturing, distribution and immunization.  Finally there will be a very large number of people who will refuse to take the vaccine.  So what is the goal?  What is the trigger that says things open up.  Let me tell you, they don’t have one.

[Max69xl]

6 hours ago, pegman said:

Good that the authorities are gong to great lengths to stop the spread. Some other countries could learn from this. I'm looking at you Trump.

Learn from what? They only test people when they really have to and to keep people calm. Otherwise,the total amount of tests in a country with ~69 million people is ridiculously low. 

[rickthompson]

23 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

Finally there will be a very large number of people who will refuse to take the vaccine.

Some of the latest surveys done in US show only about 54% of people asked would get the vaccine if one was available.  Gonna be a lot of potential spreaders walking around even if vaccine is available.

[Bender Rodriguez]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

His six family members have been tested and no infection has been found.

 

if they did not get infected, why would other people ?

 

but 6 ?  DJ doing the drug selling and 6 "family" members not involved ? seems odd

 

or are they all thai

[RBOP]

He's lying about his contacts. That's why they can't find where he got it from or who he it gave it too.  Or it's just a big cover-up.

[Mywayboy]

7 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Crikey this story's got it all DJ's , drugs and now hospital flashers as well .. 

Hope they're testing for Covid 19 not some other exotic disease lol

[whaleboneman]

I don't understand why the bar/restaurant has to go into 14 day quarantine. Surely they can clean it in a day.

 

[MisguidedPangolin]

14 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

I don't understand why the bar/restaurant has to go into 14 day quarantine. Surely they can clean it in a day.

 

Face

[alyx]

4 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

I do not know , but to me it seems highly unlikely that Thailand has so few infections ... Asymptomatic spreaders around , ( how did the DJ become infected ? ) , and just a little testing on the people in the country already ...

It is a little bit like Tschernobyl , In France they said that the toxic radioactive cloud just turned around at the border ...

Sorry to inform you that the last sentence of your comment is echoing a false but persistent rumour.

No minister, scientist or journalist has ever declared or written that the cloud "had stopped at the border". And in general, nothing in the communication of the Government ever made one think that the cloud had not flown over France. On the contrary, in May 1986, the authorities reported that "harmful particles had reached France", without presenting any "danger". I know...I was there.

[alyx]

1 hour ago, RBOP said:

He's lying about his contacts. That's why they can't find where he got it from or who he it gave it too.  Or it's just a big cover-up.

Would you remember ? I am sure I could not

[Trip Hop]

2 hours ago, Max69xl said:

Learn from what? They only test people when they really have to and to keep people calm. Otherwise,the total amount of tests in a country with ~69 million people is ridiculously low. 

Exactly, you only have to ask yourself as to why Thailand, the so called champion of managing Covid is left off nearly, if not every travel bubble that I’m aware of? It’s simple, either the other countries believe that Thailand are carrying out too few tests to give a true accurate picture for them to make a fair assessment of the risk or they just don’t trust them to tell the truth altogether?

[Gilltom]

8 hours ago, bodga said:

Didnt they say something completely  different yesterday?

Mmmm i thought they did as well

[vermin on arrival]

1 minute ago, Trip Hop said:

Exactly, you only have to ask yourself as to why Thailand, the so called champion of managing Covid is left off nearly, if not every travel bubble that I’m aware of? It’s simple, either the other countries believe that Thailand are carrying out too few tests to give a true accurate picture for them to make a fair assessment of the risk or they just don’t trust them to tell the truth altogether?

Not true Taiwan has them as low risk country and it's one of the safe countries to travel to Europe.

[PaoloR]

12 minutes ago, Trip Hop said:

Exactly, you only have to ask yourself as to why Thailand, the so called champion of managing Covid is left off nearly, if not every travel bubble that I’m aware of? It’s simple, either the other countries believe that Thailand are carrying out too few tests to give a true accurate picture for them to make a fair assessment of the risk or they just don’t trust them to tell the truth altogether?

It's called reciprocation. If they (Thailand) won't let our people into their country, why should we let their people into ours?

Why are so many people desperate to believe Thailand is a hot-bed of Covid 19? Just be happy that we do not have the problems that others face.

(Sorry, forgot this is Thai Visa and everything to do with Thailand must be bad and must be moaned about!)

[Hi Tea]

3 hours ago, hotchilli said:

I went to a local restaurant the other night with some teacher friends, an up-market local restaurant.

No Thaichana, no signature record, no hand sanitiser, no-one [apart from me] wearing a mask,

Those irresponsible teachers patronising those "up-market" restaurants should be ashamed of their behaviour, I'm surprised that you didn't mention it to them.   At least they can be reassured that, because you wore a mask, you probably didn't infect them with anything (except when you were eating or drinking)!

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, chrisinth said:

While respecting the authorities contact tracing, it highlights the complexity of what they are facing when one person infected = 970 people of interest.

 

What is not clear in the OP is what happens to the people tested afterwards; only a few groups seem to have been picked out for isolation after the tests but not all? How will employers react to those people where isolation is deemed necessary, ie, will their jobs remain safe?

 

What happens when the borders reopen and we start getting more localized infections; we shouldn't delude ourselves that this isn't going to happen whether from labour forces from neighbouring countries or hi-so's given a free pass (yes, this will certainly happen again regardless of whats been said). Where will they put everyone selected for isolation?

 

Trying to be real here folks..................

Group Testing was I think promoted by the US CDC as a means to more quickly identify infection sources without wholesale massive daily testing of the entire population. But the US virus task force didn't proceed with any national plan for group testing.

[Flying Saucage]

1 hour ago, PaoloR said:

It's called reciprocation. If they (Thailand) won't let our people into their country, why should we let their people into ours?

Why are so many people desperate to believe Thailand is a hot-bed of Covid 19? Just be happy that we do not have the problems that others face.

(Sorry, forgot this is Thai Visa and everything to do with Thailand must be bad and must be moaned about!)

I think almost no one in Thaivisa is desperate to believe that Thailand is a hot-bed of Covid-19. But almost everyone is sure that Thailand is not transparent and honest about its true numbers, and does test ridiculously little. 

 

Thailand is definitely not overwhelmed by Covid, but it also is not free of it. It's just in the league of well performing countries, however more due to luck than to professionalism.