Infected DJ’s work places failed to maintain basic anti-COVID measures

[MrsT]

take a look at countries with strong boycotting of wearing mask ; US, UK, Germany and some nutjobs claiming that Covid-19 is fake... I have to say the Thai Authorities and communities have done a lot. just some reminder / enforcement especially retailers will be good.

 

 

[RBOP]

15 hours ago, Sharp said:

Yeah 'highly' contagious and deadly 

Thanks for the info. I have a  2% chance of dying in my cohort ????????????. 20% if in the 80+ group ????????

[Ludo55]

2 hours ago, Oldie said:

If I look at the nightlife here in Central Pattaya most bars that I see here don't care about regulations. Some don't even care about closing times. Obviously there is not much law enforcement. So why should they care. 

Exactly, just look at the videos of Insomnia, Pin-Up, Flexx and many others. Packed at times, with no masks, no social distancing, and open all night. When an outbreak occurs in these places, they will shut the bars again,  and it will serve them right. Where are the Police, oops, counting those brown envelopes 

[Foghorn]

3 hours ago, skippybangkok said:

It’s not surprising that some farangs live in Thailand yet complain every day how bad it is

 

go home ! No one will miss you

 

Thailand has done an amazing job at protecting us from Covid unlike USA or even my home state of Victoria, Australia 

 

 

 

And those that don’t like to read other people’s thought should not go on a forum 

[mstevens]

40 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Those who are happy to suck up the generally lower standards than they would find in their homeland probably prefer those lower standards as it means they have low standards themselves or are happy in Thailand because they don't have to try very hard to keep up standards.
 

 

Absolutely spot on.

[Ludo55]

35 minutes ago, meechai said:

Yeah not like this safe Loei Street Market on Sept 6th

 

 

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That's nothing compared to the Clubs on Walking Street that are open all night????????

[Ludo55]

8 minutes ago, MrsT said:

take a look at countries with strong boycotting of wearing mask ; US, UK, Germany and some nutjobs claiming that Covid-19 is fake... I have to say the Thai Authorities and communities have done a lot. just some reminder / enforcement especially retailers will be good.

 

 

You forgot Nightclubs and Gogos with absolutely no restrictions 

[whiteman]

Maybe it is just a hoax by the government so they can stop the students from gathering  I would not put it past them to do that

[RPCVguy]

16 hours ago, Sharp said:

Yeah 'highly' contagious and deadly

That chart was misleading enough to not want to bring forward. The infectiousness of COVID-19 is at least 10x that of the flu. It is also more deadly than the flu. Case fatality rate does vary by nation due to underlying genetic and diet/exercise reasons.

Yet to be known is the rate and extent of ongoing organ damage to those who survive the disease. Fortunately, we are learning enough to begin seeing patterns allowing working theories as to the mechanism by which the virus attacks the body. This study is the first I've seen that explains the multiple symptoms from ARDS to neurological disorders and purple toes...

Directly from the study:

"Neither the disease mechanism nor treatments for COVID-19 are currently known. Here, we present a novel molecular mechanism [Bradykinin Storm] for COVID-19 that provides therapeutic intervention points that can be addressed with existing FDA-approved pharmaceuticals."

►Supercomputer analysis of Covid-19 suggests a new unified theory of the disease

 

Besides pointing out therapies (including Vitamin D3 which office worker globally are deficient in unless supplemented) The study helps identify some reasons why populations in different nations are suffering differently from the disease. Overall diet and exercise of a population matters!
 

Another correction in above comments

1 hour ago, IamNoone88 said:

Indias's infection rate has over taken the US. Why would you allow flights in the first place ....

Correction! India has over 4x the population of the USA, yet the total number of cases is less - as is the number of new cases per million population (do the math.)

 

Edited September 8, 2020 by RPCVguy
graphic was entered twice

[jimmjam]

I thought he didnt have any symptons though, so a temperature check etc... wouldnt of helped.

I bet there are loads of asymptomatic people walking around thailand.

[rwill]

So if everyone he has come into contact with does not have covid, does he really have it?

 

Like I said before if it was an antibody test it doesn't mean he has the virus now.

[Jonathan Swift]

16 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

 

So the Criminal Court, obviously, has atrocious anti-Covid measures ?

Double standards yet again.

I hate to burst your bubble there son, knowing how much you enjoy dumping on Thai culture, and of course you're free to ignore basic facts if it suits you (and you will), but criminal courts, jails, hospitals, airports, nursing homes, trains, buses, fitness centers, etc., all have equally high risk for one main reason - large difficult to control populations coming and going, as well as enclosed spaces, difficulty keeping at a distance,  and mingling in close quarters. This particular fact is true in each and every western as well as eastern country. It's true with the flu and common cold as well as this god awful plague. And that would include wherever you're from - and where you should be right now. You certainly don't belong in Thailand with your attitude. From the day the pandemic hit when I was in Hua Hin and then Bangkok I saw strict and effective measures taken everywhere I went. I left Thailand on 26 May, and as of now Thailand is regarded by the WHO as the safest, or one of the safest, countries in the world. They certainly did something right. 

[Clarkey611]

I can confirm that I visited 5 restaurants / pubs / bars last week and none of them were following the guidelines. However, I had a wonderful time in all the establishments.

[apetryxx]

4 hours ago, skippybangkok said:

It’s not surprising that some farangs live in Thailand yet complain every day how bad it is

 

go home ! No one will miss you

 

Thailand has done an amazing job at protecting us from Covid unlike USA or even my home state of Victoria, Australia 

 

 

 

Some folks are missing the point. It turns out that:

1. The vast majority of COVID 19 cases are mild and no worse than a cold/flu infection.

2. Deaths directly attributable to the virus in the U.S. were vastly overstated at 140,00 when the true number is closer to 8,000.
3.There is a monetary benefit to hospitals that state cause of death as COVID. Follow the money. Don't know about Thailand but that is the case in the U.S..

 

I think most would agree that all of this hysteria is ginned up by governments to keep CONTROL and has nothing to do with public safety. 
My two baht worth

[JohnTJ]

16 hours ago, Sharp said:

Yeah 'highly' contagious and deadly 

Where is the one with the number for where you don't die but just have complications and issues for long-term/rest of your idiotic life?

[JohnTJ]

1 hour ago, Foghorn said:

And those that don’t like to read other people’s thought should not go on a forum 

He's stating his own thoughts about whiny farangs no?

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, apetryxx said:

.There is a monetary benefit to hospitals that state cause of death as COVID. Follow the money. Don't know about Thailand but that is the case in the U.S..

Another false claim, and part of the conspiracy theorists playbook.  I have a Daughter who is a Surgical ICU Nurse Practitioner, She works primarily with Covid patients on respirators and has since this hit the US in Jacksonville Florida.  No extra money is heading into the hospitals pockets for claiming a case is Covid.  The fact is they are understaffed, overworked and lacking in protective gear.

[agood1963]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The number of people in close contact with the infected DJ,traced by health investigators, has increased to 970, with 119 of them classified as being at high risk.  516 have been tested and 513 have been cleared of the virus, with the results of the remaining three still pending.

The DJ had a mild strain of flue we made a mistake do not spoil the 100 plus days without an infection .

 

[sitti]

Even when Thai authorities are promptly responding to local transmission and controlling the situation, some idiots here are just have to twist the facts around to insult people and country that you're allowed in as guests. Don't forget how lucky you are still in Thailand, not in your faranglands during this chaos, and how desperate many of you wish to stay here. Otherwise, you wouldn't have shown so much interests in immigration announcements. 

Edited September 8, 2020 by sitti

[sandrew33]

4 hours ago, skippybangkok said:

It’s not surprising that some farangs live in Thailand yet complain every day how bad it is

 

go home ! No one will miss you

 

Thailand has done an amazing job at protecting us from Covid unlike USA or even my home state of Victoria, Australia 

 

 

 

Your home state has the highest rate of stupid people in Australia (or the worst government :)). 
 

As someone who was in Thailand at the start of the outbreak and has lived there for over a decade, I’m happy to be in one of the less stupid states of Australia at present. 
 

I wouldn’t be terrified to be in Thailand and they’ve done an ok job but the fact that they aren’t even in the Top 10 of countries likely to open first for travel from Aus (and regional countries like Vietnam/Cambodia and Singapore are) suggests that the Aussie government has about as much faith in the Thai reported numbers as you should ???? 

[The Barmbeker]

Wait!

Haven't we heard from Yinn and all the Thai'er than- Thai- brigade, that Thailand is perfect in every way, when it comes to masks, contact- tracing, social distancing and all other measures against COVID, that were closely followed and 100% observed by the wonderful population of this near- perfect nation?

Fools, all of them! 

[Keesters]

26 minutes ago, apetryxx said:

I think most would agree that all of this hysteria is ginned up by governments to keep CONTROL and has nothing to do with public safety. 

My two baht worth

So you're saying that all governments (~200) around the world have colluded together and decided that now is the time to CONTROL their citizens (~7.8 billion). Are there no exceptions? If what you say is true why no whistle blowers only conspiracy theories like yours?

 

I raise you one baht.... 

[geriatrickid]

18 hours ago, Sharp said:

Yeah 'highly' contagious and deadly 

 

Hilarious post for its misapplication.  The  disease is  very contagious. The information you have posted does not disprove this.  The  physicians, nurses and  orderlies are not bundled up in PPE because they have  a fetish.

Know what else is contagious? Ignorance and lies when unchallenged. We all know that the greatest risk is not death. 

 

Did you even read the paper; Predicted COVID-19 fatality rates based on age, sex, comorbidities, and health system capacity Authors;  Selene Ghisolfi, Ingvild Ingvild Almas, Justin Sandefur, Tillman von Carnap,  Jesse Heitner, Tessa Bold?  I don't think the authors  would appreciate having their work taken out of context.

 

Why keep harping on fatalities when it has been said repeatedly, over and over and over and over and over, as in multiple times, as in many times, It is about;

1. The physical damage and the relationship with NEW chronic health care conditions;

2. The impact upon the delivery of health care and;

3. The impact that a highly infectious disease has upon a society and the   cost of the damage caused by the  infections.

 

had you read the   original document you would see that; 

- Data was from the early months of the pandemic. The information is stale dated, and the much larger data pool must be used.

- This will present a problem for those who claim this shows that the pandemic is a hoax, and who insist that it is promoted by   Bill Gates and others who want to nano chip the world.

Know why?

Sandefur acknowledges external support to the Center for Global Development from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for global health research.   ????

 

If you believe that the  disease not infectious and does not present a problem, please  volunteer at a facility caring for the infected. You can replace the workers who have become ill or died. With your super immune system you  have no worries and won't need PPE.

Edited September 8, 2020 by geriatrickid

[Patjqm]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Another false claim, and part of the conspiracy theorists playbook.  I have a Daughter who is a Surgical ICU Nurse Practitioner, She works primarily with Covid patients on respirators and has since this hit the US in Jacksonville Florida.  No extra money is heading into the hospitals pockets for claiming a case is Covid.  The fact is they are understaffed, overworked and lacking in protective gear.

39000usd when put on a ventilator! And now it appears it can be a bad threathment...

[tomauasia]

Just using it to extort some cash. They haven't a clue and there hundreds running around sick 

[RPCVguy]

1 hour ago, JohnTJ said:

Where is the one with the number for where you don't die but just have complications and issues for long-term/rest of your idiotic life?

That has been the mystery of this disease, a mystery that it is taking time to review, analyse and quantify. A short and simple study has been reported in JAMA

But that is only the beginning.

What's just starting to emerge, according to Dr. Poland, is this idea of COVID-19 "long-haulers," which is a term used to describe people who develop long-term and ongoing complications.
"We're really seeing a number of reports of people who report long-term fatigue, headaches, vertigo (and), interestingly enough, difficulties with cognition, hair loss, cardiac issues, and diminished cardiorespiratory fitness. And I think what we're going to find out is that a large portion ― not all, but a large portion of that ― is likely to relate to the significant cellular-level damage that this virus can cause," says Dr. Poland.

Some of the possible long-term effects can affect even patients who are asymptomatic or have mild cases of COVID-19.
"I think it's an argument for why we take this disease so seriously," says Dr. Poland. "People who are thinking, especially young people: '(It's a) mild disease, you know. I might not even have any symptoms, and I'm over it.' Whoa. The data is suggesting otherwise. There's evidence of myocardial damage, cardiomyopathy, arrhythmias, decreased ejection fractions, pulmonary scarring and strokes.
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/long-term-symptoms-complications-of-covid-19/

The best unified theory of what this virus does also contains in its thinking ways to test its validity because some drugs already are on the market that will be able to treat the symptoms... if the idea is right
A Supercomputer Analyzed Covid-19 — A closer look at the Bradykinin hypothesis
 

 

[BobinBKK]

6 hours ago, skippybangkok said:

It’s not surprising that some farangs live in Thailand yet complain every day how bad it is

 

go home ! No one will miss you

 

Thailand has done an amazing job at protecting us from Covid unlike USA or even my home state of Victoria, Australia 

 

 

 

Yes it's what we do. And who made you the moral authority to pass the same judgement on us for complaining? Self proclaimed I'm so sure ????

[kiwikeith]

18 hours ago, Kadilo said:

“The three work places of the DJ, who is Thailand’s first locally transmitted COVID-19 case in more than 100 days, did not observe the basic preventive requirements of temperature screening, the wearing face of masks and social distancing and offered a “glass sharing” special menu, according to an investigative report by the CCSA.“

......and we have Thais lecturing us on the wearing of face coverings. Who would of thought. 
 

Let’s see how many others now have the infection due to their woeful neglect. I will guess zero. 

One man started a new outbreak in NZ with only a few close contacts. 

However this will not happen in BK as the C19 authority will not permit it. The virus would only spread if droplets were inhaled by close contacts, since all of these were holding their breath the virus will not have been able to spread 

[maqui]

19 hours ago, Sharp said:

Yeah 'highly' contagious and deadly 

How does this square with the statistics every country worldwide publishes:

World 27.5m cases, 890k dead = 3.2% fatality rate

US 6.5m. 193k = 3.0%

UK 350k, 41k = 11.7%

FR 329k, 31k = 9.4%

DE 253k, 9k = 3.6%

Italy 279, 35k = 12.5%

Sweden 85k, 6k = 7.0%

 

For rates like 0.01%, the number of unreported infections would have to be 30 times as high. Did 200m Americans get the infection without noticing and despite 80m tests? Did the U.S. hospitals that rented cooling trucks, allegedly to store dead bodies, in reality store ice cream and beer there for the roof pool parties with doctors and nurses? Did Iran and Brazil, were ditches filled with body bags were visible from space, in reality just bury fertilizer bags for reaping a particularly good potato harvest? Did in nursing homes in the Italy where, allegedly, military trucks transported the bodies off to the cemeteries (Northern Italy), in reality just suffer from an epidemic of food poisonings?

Looks like a table from the DJTIT, the Donald J Trump Institute of Technology, a department of reputable Trump University.

Edited September 8, 2020 by maqui

[PETERTHEEATER]

19 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

 

So the Criminal Court, obviously, has atrocious anti-Covid measures ?

Double standards yet again.

Don't confuse 'contacts' with lack of AC measures. Any person who has been within two meters of the perp are 'contacts' even those wearing full PPE.