Biden leads Trump by 12 points nationally among likely voters - Reuters/Ipsos poll

[Jonnapat]

17 hours ago, ballpoint said:

Behave decently and sincerely.

Not in his DNA.

[geriatrickid]

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Thats the good news.

Here's the bad news. 

If Biden wins the popular vote by less than 3 percent he easily loses though 2 is much better odds than 2.

4 percent and its about 50 50.

At 5 percent he almost definitely wins.

What kind of democracy it where you need to win by 5 percent to be sure of winning?

Parliamentary, equitable and functioning.

It ensures  a fair mandate and eliminates regional dominance because of marginal population differences.

 

Consider the following scenarios in the UK or Canada;

Seat 1:  Party A 50 votes  Party B 150 votes 

Seat 2: Party A  101 Votes  Party B 99 Votes

Seat 3; Party A 105 votes   Party B 95 votes

Seat 4: Party A 110 votes  Party B 90 votes

Seat 5 : Party A 99 votes   Party B 101 votes

 

Party A wins  3 of 5 seats but only has 465 Votes and forms the government

Party B wins 2 of 5 seats but has a popular majority at 535 votes

 

One seat district favoured one political party. Does this mean that the other seats  must all be  subject to the whims of that  district? the US electoral college format is a parliamentary approach but on a larger scale where the   states are one district.

 

I used to   despise the method, but it works and is fair when it comes to  taking into account regions. Without the US format,  the election result would always be dominated by the large population states and smaller states would lose their voice.

The US systems forces the party that wins to have a regionally diverse base of support.

 

 

[geriatrickid]

30 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Why does Joe Biden avoid campaign appearances?  And why does Kamala Harris also avoid them?

Ever hear of Covid 19?

They are putting the health and safety of others first. their campaign events can be accessed online.

These are responsible, thoughtful people.

 

[evadgib]

19 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

looking forward to seeing what President Harris can do!

....vanish as per Sarah Palin.

[Curt1591]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

According to five thirty eight.com shy 45 voters are not a thing. They're the opposite of shy.

"five thirty eight.com" !!!

 

In that case, I must retract my statement!

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, Ireland32 said:

Well I don’t think he will get armed forces behind him , Despicable Treatment of Them

I guess that depends if they watch FOX or CNN.

[ballpoint]

35 minutes ago, Jonnapat said:

Not in his DNA.

Which is why his base will never leave him.

[FangFerang]

17 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

12 points lead, about the same as Hillary then ????

No, she was ahead by 7.  I hated her too, but nice try.

[FangFerang]

America is 31% Republican, 32% Democrat and 36% Independent. Yes, not discussed but true (and 1% are unaccounted for).  Trump has lost the Independents.  In 2016, they liked him more than the Sorceress of Broomstick One.  Not now, because of (insert an entire encyclopedia of lies, deceptions, denials and idiocies--------------> here).

[Smigel]

50 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

It's the debate I can't wait to experience, it will be so bad for Biden, actually I feel sorry for him.

There is no way the Dems are going to allow Biden to debate trump. 

He will be slaughtered by Trump on the debate stage, bidens campaign team know this, which is why some time prior to the debate, old Joe will unfortunately catch covid 19 and be too ill to attend. 

The campaign team will say this is what they were worried about all along, thereby maintaining their farce of a campaign as an anti Trump, orange man bad, hate fest. 

Rather than debate or offer any policies themselves. 

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, FangFerang said:

America is 31% Republican, 32% Democrat and 36% Independent. Yes, not discussed but true (and 1% are unaccounted for).  Trump has lost the Independents.  In 2016, they liked him more than the Sorceress of Broomstick One.  Not now, because of (insert an entire encyclopedia of lies, deceptions, denials and idiocies--------------> here).

Yes independents are key but your numbers are way off. Democrats (about 40 percent) vs. republicans (about 29 percent) vs independents also about 29 percent.

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/28/first-time-ever-there-are-fewer-registered-republicans-than-independents/

Edited September 10, 2020 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, Smigel said:

There is no way the Dems are going to allow Biden to debate trump. 

He will be slaughtered by Trump on the debate stage, bidens campaign team know this, which is why some time prior to the debate, old Joe will unfortunately catch covid 19 and be too ill to attend. 

The campaign team will say this is what they were worried about all along, thereby maintaining their farce of a campaign as an anti Trump, orange man bad, hate fest. 

Rather than debate or offer any policies themselves. 

That's ridiculous. 

[Berkshire]

8 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Please post a link to show blake is a sex offender.

 

we know trump is.

Trump is a sexual predator of the worst kind.  Even to his own lawyer's 15 yr old daughter...

 

[Cohen claims the president gawked at his daughter in 2012, when she was just 15 years old.]

 

[Cohen wrote that Trump made the comments as his daughter was finishing up a tennis lesson.

Before Cohen revealed who the teen was, Trump allegedly said: "Look at that piece of a**. I would love some of that."]

 

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1435661/michael-cohen-claims-trump-ogled-teen-daughter/

 

[TopDeadSenter]

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

That thing about wife #1 (Ivana Kutcherpeckeroff) not being a citizen is interesting.  Funny how the guy who gets such strong support from the rabid nationalists has a foreign-born first lady.

deleted - why bother

 

 

Edited September 10, 2020 by TopDeadSenter

[jesimps]

18 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Thats the good news.

Here's the bad news. 

If Biden wins the popular vote by less than 3 percent he easily loses though 2 is much better odds than 2.

4 percent and its about 50 50.

At 5 percent he almost definitely wins.

What kind of democracy it where you need to win by 5 percent to be sure of winning?

I assume it's same rules for both sides, what you whinging about?

[TopDeadSenter]

20 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Obama was awarded for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people; Trump is just the opposite.

Obama was nominated for a Nobel exactly 11 days after becoming POTUS. Nothing at all was accomplished in those 11 days, least of all "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people". IMO he won because he is the first black President in an age where colour is becoming more important than character(i do not agree this is good btw!)

 

"Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize a little under 10 months after he took up residence in the White House. Nominations for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize closed just 11 days after he took office."

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/speedread/

 

Edited September 10, 2020 by TopDeadSenter

[Rimmer]

 A couple of personal attacks have been removed

[ShindenGo]

1 hour ago, sanuk711 said:

Survey finds Hillary Clinton has ‘more than 99% chance’ of winning election over Donald Trump

The Princeton Election Consortium found Ms Clinton has a projected 312 electoral votes across the country and only 270 are needed to win.

 

 

The Same Pollster that is now finding Sleepy Joe unbeatable.....just 99% then, not much margin for a mistake

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sam-wang-princeton-election-consortium-poll-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-victory-a7399671.html

She did win. She won by over 3 million votes. But Trump conspired, coordinated and colluded with Vladimir Putin to steal 2016 election from Hilary! And he Trump tried to do it again in Ukraine by withholding congressionally approved funds for the defense of our vital ally Ukraine in exchange for politically damaging information on Joe Biden. 
 

Face it. All these riots, protests and looting are caused by Trump!! It will not end if he wins. We can only secure a lasting peace free from racial strife and divisions if we only elect Joe Biden. 

[Eric Loh]

24 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Obama was nominated for a Nobel exactly 11 days after becoming POTUS. Nothing at all was accomplished in those 11 days, least of all "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people". IMO he won because he is the first black President in an age where colour is becoming more important than character(i do not agree this is good btw!)

 

"Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize a little under 10 months after he took up residence in the White House. Nominations for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize closed just 11 days after he took office."

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/speedread/

 

I am impressed that he achieved so much in such short time. What a statesman. He was deeply humbled by the award and shared with everyone. Imagine what Trump will say IF (big if) he win. But then he had criticized the NPP when he didn't win the last time and said he was treated unfairly (typical). 

[ShindenGo]

26 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Obama was nominated for a Nobel exactly 11 days after becoming POTUS. Nothing at all was accomplished in those 11 days, least of all "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people". IMO he won because he is the first black President in an age where colour is becoming more important than character(i do not agree this is good btw!)

 

"Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize a little under 10 months after he took up residence in the White House. Nominations for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize closed just 11 days after he took office."

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2009/speedread/

 

He won because he campaigned and brought fully to fruition the end of dictatorships across the world. Libya is now free from Gaddhafi (who was on the path to nuclear weapons until Bush bribes him not to do it) and Syria is free from Assad (who threatened to chemically attack his own citizens under Trumps watch). Barack Obama was the light in the darkness. He was the statement to prove that America isn’t a racist country. Now we need Joe Biden to carry on that torch. To both heal the black and white division and to restore global peace throughout the world. 

[sanuk711]

2 minutes ago, ShindenGo said:

She did win.

Well.. she is the president then...........................because the winner becomes president.

 

Some people just can not accept the rules of the game.....unless it comes down in their favor.....

[ShindenGo]

1 hour ago, Smigel said:

There is no way the Dems are going to allow Biden to debate trump. 

He will be slaughtered by Trump on the debate stage, bidens campaign team know this, which is why some time prior to the debate, old Joe will unfortunately catch covid 19 and be too ill to attend. 

The campaign team will say this is what they were worried about all along, thereby maintaining their farce of a campaign as an anti Trump, orange man bad, hate fest. 

Rather than debate or offer any policies themselves. 

Why does Biden need to debate? He already won. Who cares if he doesn’t debate Trump it’s irrelevant. Trump will lose END ✊????OF ✊????STORY✊????

[J Town]

1 hour ago, Smigel said:

There is no way the Dems are going to allow Biden to debate trump. 

He will be slaughtered by Trump on the debate stage, bidens campaign team know this, which is why some time prior to the debate, old Joe will unfortunately catch covid 19 and be too ill to attend. 

The campaign team will say this is what they were worried about all along, thereby maintaining their farce of a campaign as an anti Trump, orange man bad, hate fest. 

Rather than debate or offer any policies themselves. 

Presidential debates are scheduled to take place September 29, October 15 and October 22, 2020. The vice presidential debate is scheduled to take place on October 7, 2020.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_debates#:~:text=Presidential debates are scheduled to,place on October 7%2C 2020.

[J Town]

1 minute ago, ShindenGo said:

Why does Biden need to debate? He already won. Who cares if he doesn’t debate Trump it’s irrelevant. Trump will lose END ✊????OF ✊????STORY✊????

We don't know that. 45 is pulling every dirty trick he can, has planted seeds of doubt in the entire election process. Chickens not to be counted until they're hatched.

[CorpusChristie]

7 minutes ago, J Town said:

By his own admission 45 has "grabbed them by the p*ssy" on top of multiple abuse charges.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12

Accusations (which havent been proven) does not make a person guilty of those accusations 

[ShindenGo]

18 minutes ago, Smigel said:

Please post a link to show Trump is a sex offender. 

 

We know Biden is.! 

Excuse me?!! How is Biden a sex offender?? 
 

if you’re referring to Tara Reade she’s a consistent and easily proven liar who can’t take even basic questions on her “ordeal”

 

1. Why was she wearing sexy clothing in the winter?

2. Why didn’t she forcefully say no to Joe Biden?

3. What did she say or do to make Joe Biden thinks she liked him?

4. Why didn’t she file a police report?

5. Did she enjoy it but later regret it?

6. Did she ask for any political favors a week or days before?

7. Why are we only hearing this now?

8. Who did she vote for?

9. Who did she donate money too?

 

if Ford can answer these questions then Reade can too. But guess what she hasn’t and won’t ever. 
 

BIDEN IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. But of course conservatives and republicans will throw that standard out the window for their own political gain!

[Sujo]

51 minutes ago, Smigel said:

Please post a link to show Trump is a sex offender. 

 

We know Biden is.! 

So youve got nothing. Stop lying.

[Sujo]

42 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Accusations (which havent been proven) does not make a person guilty of those accusations 

not accusations. Self admitted sex offender, dont even ask them, just grab em by the pussy.

[earlinclaifornia]

6 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

Lest we forget: CCP, Antifa and BLM all support Biden.

Take ALL the support we can! trump is going to lose!

[earlinclaifornia]

5 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

"Four years ago, Democrat Hillary Clinton got almost 3 million more votes than Trump, only to see her Republican rival narrowly win the Electoral College and the presidency."

 

According to Google, Clinton received 2.868686 million more votes; 2.09% of the votes more than Trump.

 

Trump won 304 Electoral College votes and Clinton 227. That's 33.9% more, which Reuters claim is "narrowly win"!

 

Great example of words deliberately intended to mislead. Reuters no longer report impartially or factually. Sadly, neither do many former prestigious media organizations. BBC can be caught out regularly too.

 

Just one example but nowadays you have to check the veracity of "the news" more than ever.

So what part of the 70 thousand vote swing that won the EC is not NARROW? LOl