DJ contracted G-strain of Covid-19, says doctor

[webfact]

DJ contracted G-strain of Covid-19, says doctor

By The Nation

 

 

It has been found that the DJ, who tested positive for Covid-19 in prison, was infected by the G-strain of the virus, not the original strain from Wuhan, Dr Opas Karnkawinpong, director-general of the Department of Medical Sciences, said on Friday (September 11).

 

Preliminary epidemiological data has indicated that though the G-strain is more infectious than the L- and S-strains from China, it is far less severe. The G-strain is mostly found among returnees and travellers in state quarantine.

 

The doctor said the possible source of infection may have been people who have small amounts of the virus and those who have undergone quarantine over the last few days.

 

There will possibly be fewer infections, but the situation in Thailand is still of concern as more migrant workers try to make their way into the country illegally.

 

Dr Opas said that though the G-strain is easier to spread, it can be prevented if everybody follows public health measures strictly, like wearing masks and washing hands frequently.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30394379

 

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[DrTuner]

Excellent, they actually released the information. Now, was it G in March at the Lumpini, or still D?

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1163060-genetic-mutation-study-finds-new-coronavirus-spread-swiftly-in-late-2019/?do=findComment&comment=15385703

Edited September 11, 2020 by DrTuner

[AbeNormal]

by now the strains have spread everywhere so this information is basically useless, they originated from the strain that spread from China

 

so what exact point are they trying to make here, that this is a farang strain ?

[DrTuner]

7 minutes ago, AbeNormal said:

by now the strains have spread everywhere so this information is basically useless, they originated from the strain that spread from China

 

so what exact point are they trying to make here, that this is a farang strain ?

Not useless at all. You can see the ancestry of a strain and figure out the general direction it came from. It's not just about the D614G mutation.

 

https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global

 

Doesn't look like they uploaded this one to GISAID yet.

Edited September 11, 2020 by DrTuner

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, DrTuner said:

Now, was it G in March at the Lumpini, or still D?

I seem to recall reading an article back around the time of the 'Lumpini incident' that described it as the strain circulating in Europe.

 

Whether that article was pure fiction or not is anyones guess.

 

[FarFlungFalang]

Wow what a luck guy he contracted the G string virus!Ooops!I forgot to wear my glasses!

[JCP108]

Has anyone yet offered an explanation for how his family members completed their quarantines in one-third the normal time?

[DaftToPutRealName]

5 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

Has anyone yet offered an explanation for how his family members completed their quarantines in one-third the normal time?

Clocks in Thailand exist in a probability flux that collapses only when convenient to Thai people.

That's why "arriving now" can be both 5 minutes and 50 minutes at once, and also how family members of infected individuals can finish quarantines in politically convenient record time-scales.

[Anton9]

If this strain is so harsh why in Europe death rate is so low and vast majority are asymptomatics?

This is getting boring AF

[Blumpie]

6 minutes ago, Anton9 said:

If this strain is so harsh why in Europe death rate is so low and vast majority are asymptomatics?

This is getting boring AF

You go down the flip side with the G-Strain, you dig?  Yo, don't do drugs DJ Blumpie out east sieeede!  

[DrTuner]

19 minutes ago, Anton9 said:

If this strain is so harsh why in Europe death rate is so low and vast majority are asymptomatics?

This is getting boring AF

It's not harsh, just more infectious, meaning higher R0.

 

The ones who died in the first onslaught were in the vulnerable groups. What we are now finding are the younger, healthier ones who are asymptomatic, thanks to increased testing among general population. So the actual case fatality ratio goes down. This might have been the case for months already, but it wasn't known because of lower number of tests. The real truth is only becoming visible now, when we are finally getting mass data. 

[JCP108]

7 hours ago, DrTuner said:

It's not harsh, just more infectious, meaning higher R0.

 

The ones who died in the first onslaught were in the vulnerable groups. What we are now finding are the younger, healthier ones who are asymptomatic, thanks to increased testing among general population. So the actual case fatality ratio goes down. This might have been the case for months already, but it wasn't known because of lower number of tests. The real truth is only becoming visible now, when we are finally getting mass data. 

So, you're saying a sufficient amount of testing can reveal helpful data? Could you please get that to the Thai officials who need to know that?

[GeorgeCross]

10 hours ago, JCP108 said:

Has anyone yet offered an explanation for how his family members completed their quarantines in one-third the normal time?

 

the baht is so strong right now it can bend time 

 

 

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

The G-strain is mostly found among returnees and travellers in state quarantine.

thai returnees ?  farangs ?

 

[Deli]

G-Strings always have been dangerously tempting to me, when fitted to the right @rse

[hotchilli]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

Dr Opas said that though the G-strain is easier to spread, it can be prevented if everybody follows public health measures strictly, like wearing masks and washing hands frequently.

That's bad news then, as no <deleted> wears a mask in my neck of the woods, most markets, shops and restaurants etc have given up temp testing, gel at the door or any signing in.

If one person here gets it they won't be tracking anyone as there won't be any records.

[Sheryl]

13 hours ago, DrTuner said:

 What we are now finding are the younger, healthier ones who are asymptomatic, thanks to increased testing among general population. So the actual case fatality ratio goes down.

 

Not just due to increased testing IMO.

 

Also reflects the facts that:

• Strong precautions remain in effect in care homes and hospitals everywhere
• Older people and people with underlying conditions have been sensitized to their risk and are much more likely to be continuing to practice precautions, avoid crowds etc.(certainly true of all my elderly relatives!).
• Older people and people with chronic illness are less likely to have to use public transport or go to work; their exposures to crowds are much more optional whereas younger people and healthy people may not have the luxury of avoiding them
• Plus - younger people voluntarily engage in much more high risk behavior (for COVID and anything else).

The well publicized fact that old people and the chronically ill are at highest risk has served to change these groups' behaviors in a good way.   However it has also had the undesirable effect of giving younger, healthy people an exaggerated sense of invulernability...something the young are prone to anyhow.

 

Case fatality has also gone down in the developed world among severe cases -- it is not just a dilutional effect of having more asymptomatic cases in the denominator.   We have gotten much, much better at treating it. In the beginning we really did now know much about severe COVID and so just managed it as one would a severe flu or as was done with SARS. Turns out severe COVID is quite different and a multi-system disease rather than just a viral pneumonia.  There is still much more to learn but the advances already made in themselves reduce mortality in severe COVID by over a third.

[digger70]

22 hours ago, webfact said:

Preliminary epidemiological data has indicated that though the G-strain is more infectious than the L- and S-strains from China, it is far less severe. The G-strain is mostly found among returnees and travellers in state quarantine.

Where are the Returnees & Travellers coming from? Europe /India/Middle East/China/Russia/Iceland/ USA 

South America /Australia /New Zealand/Africa. 

Me think they don't know what's going on .

Edited September 12, 2020 by digger70

[AlfHuy]

the g-point strain.

[DrPhibes]

43 minutes ago, AlfHuy said:

the g-point strain.

Sounds like you need longer fingers or a smaller wife.

[Nout]

5 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

thai returnees ?  farangs ?

 

Returnees! Period! Primarily Thai but nationality is irrelevant...except to you. Why do you use the term 'farang' that excludes other non white foreigners?

[Nout]

1 hour ago, digger70 said:

Where are the Returnees & Travellers coming from? Europe /India/Middle East/China/Russia/Iceland/ USA 

South America /Australia /New Zealand/Africa. 

Me think they don't know what's going on .

Not Australia! Usually the POD is always stated when positive results are announced. Frequently the UK, USA, Europe and the ME.

[IAMHERE]

On 9/11/2020 at 3:24 AM, webfact said:

Preliminary epidemiological data has indicated that though the G-strain is more infectious than the L- and S-strains from China, it is far less severe

Seems to me that we should all be exposed to the G-strain, get it, get over it, then go on with our lives.

[DrTuner]

20 hours ago, IAMHERE said:

Seems to me that we should all be exposed to the G-strain, get it, get over it, then go on with our lives.

Might already have. Antibody testing could reveal data but let's buy submarines instead, have to have the priorities straight.