Johnson lashes out at EU as he clears first hurdle for Brexit treaty breach

[Mavideol]

2 minutes ago, kingdong said:

sorry to hear what happened to your daughter,but a graphic example of remainers showing their true colours.

isolated cases happen due to high expectations on both sides,  that's not a reason to place all the eggs on the same basket

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

Have a good careful read of this, particularly page 5:. 

 

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/resources/library/media/20171023RES86651/20171023RES86651.pdf

OMG !!!!

We better leave NATO as well. Its always talking about better integration of its member states armed forces.

Being a member of NATO also undermines our sovereignty. 

Mmmmmm sovereignty.

 

[Mavideol]

1 minute ago, luckyluke said:

but for now I believe Europe ( the Europeans ) is watching the outcome.

and laughing their head off

[Rookiescot]

44 minutes ago, transam said:

You don't know, post a cartoon with the guys name on it and you don't know. Own up, its from your children's book collection, it's OK, I used to like the Beano, many, many years back...????

You still do. Only now its called the Westminster Agreement ????

[Mavideol]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

OMG !!!!

We better leave NATO as well. Its always talking about better integration of its member states armed forces.

Being a member of NATO also undermines our sovereignty. 

Mmmmmm sovereignty.

 

it appears/confirms BJ being a puppet of "orange" man on the other side of the atlantic who also wants to leave nato for similar sovereignty BS reasons 555

[luckyluke]

1 minute ago, Mavideol said:

and laughing their head off

Not sure about that, certainly perplex.

Since a while the all thing appears as a mess.

Maybe more clear with concrete facts next year.

 

[kingdong]

8 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

and laughing their head off

he who laughs last,laughs the longest.

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, kingdong said:

he who laughs last,laughs the longest.

Indeed.

We will see who has the best laugh come January.

[Mavideol]

4 minutes ago, kingdong said:

he who laughs last,laughs the longest.

be careful with what you wish for 555

[kingdong]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

Indeed.

We will see who has the best laugh come January.

and we,ll see who has the best laugh if scotland gets its independence,and throws itself into the eu,still unlikely despite all the bluster one reads on here,i,m sure democracy will prevail.

[86Tiger]

8 hours ago, Lormak said:

"..............if you in the EU try to starve us into submission, it will only serve to make us more determined and steadfast.........."

 

I love reading you Brits argue.  It is the same argument as socialists and freedom lovers in US but at least you use proper English and decipherable thought.

 

 

But I can assure you with no reservation, our British brothers will never starve as long as younger brother USofA survives.  Our destinies of freedom and self determination shall endure every effort to stifle. 

[Opl]

11 minutes ago, kingdong said:

he who laughs last,laughs the longest.

"no Brexit better than no-deal"

Edited September 16, 2020 by Opl

[Rookiescot]

3 minutes ago, kingdong said:

and we,ll see who has the best laugh if scotland gets its independence,and throws itself into the eu,still unlikely despite all the bluster one reads on here,i,m sure democracy will prevail.

Bluster? We bow before the masters of bluster.

 

Brexiteers.

"We want a no deal Brexit"

 

EU 

"If you dont stop messing around with international agreements your going to end up with no deal"

 

Brexiteers

"How dare you threaten us with no deal!!"

[Rookiescot]

5 minutes ago, 86Tiger said:

I love reading you Brits argue.  It is the same argument as socialists and freedom lovers in US but at least you use proper English and decipherable thought.

 

 

But I can assure you with no reservation, our British brothers will never starve as long as younger brother USofA survives.  Our destinies of freedom and self determination shall endure every effort to stifle. 

Yeah we can eat all that chlorinated chicken like you guys. 

[Mavideol]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Bluster? We bow before the masters of bluster.

 

Brexiteers.

"We want a no deal Brexit"

 

EU 

"If you dont stop messing around with international agreements your going to end up with no deal"

 

Brexiteers

"How dare you threaten us with no deal!!"

being saying that from the beginning.... blaming EU for all their faulty has been their game

[twocatsmac]

2 minutes ago, let them argue among themselves. ????

 

[7by7]

59 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

OMG !!!!

We better leave NATO as well. Its always talking about better integration of its member states armed forces.

Being a member of NATO also undermines our sovereignty. 

 

@nauseus frequently brings this subject up, and every time he proves himself incapable of seeing the difference between an alliance of independent forces and a single force subject to the control of a single bureaucracy.

 

Whether that is a deliberate ploy in an attempt to justify his argument, or due to lack of intellectual ability; only he knows.

[Nout]

On 9/15/2020 at 6:31 PM, Surelynot said:

Sadly, from what I have read, the vast majority of Brexiteers are more than comfortable with this outcome......go figure!

 

It just beggars belief......but I guess, having been indoctrinated by the Mail and Express for 40 odd years, it is difficult to think clearly.

Patronising nonsense. Its you who has been brainwashed by the BBC and Guardian.

[Nout]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

OMG !!!!

We better leave NATO as well. Its always talking about better integration of its member states armed forces.

Being a member of NATO also undermines our sovereignty. 

Mmmmmm sovereignty.

 

There is no comparison between NATO and the EU. A crass case of false equivalency.

[7by7]

1 minute ago, Nout said:

There is no comparison between NATO and the EU. A crass case of false equivalency.

 There is a big similarity between NATO and the possible alliance suggested by some in the EU, though.

[7by7]

Two important facts those suggesting that an EU army will be forced upon members choose to hide from the rest of us.

 

1) The UK is no longer a member of the EU, so won't be joining if were it to ever happen.

 

2) As proven many times previously whenever this subject has been raised, such a measure requires the unanimous agreement in the council of ministers. If the UK were still a member then we could veto it; just as any of the remaining members could.

 

Those two facts are, of course, just as true if the alliance which some in the EU are suggesting, and have been suggesting since the 1950's, were ever to take place.

[david555]

E.U. State of the union....E.U. shall never back track on the W.A. agreement....

So here you have it ....count the days ....WTO is yours ….

 

Margeret Thatcher famous line brought in remembrance....!!!

 

 

Edited September 16, 2020 by david555

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, twocatsmac said:

2 minutes ago, let them argue among themselves. ????

 

 

Running and hiding from the facts and issues eh?

You Brexiteers have been called out. Its over.

No deal Brexit.

Its what you voted for. 

[david555]

28 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Running and hiding from the facts and issues eh?

You Brexiteers have been called out. Its over.

No deal Brexit.

Its what you voted for. 

This is the only " E.U. will go flat belly "  U.K.brexiteers  can get : E.U. shall never backtrack on W.A. agreement : https://youtu.be/1eLE-K5jEgk

Edited September 16, 2020 by david555

[rott]

On 9/15/2020 at 6:18 PM, Rookiescot said:

Brexiteers always claimed the reason Mays deal was a failure was because the EU did not believe the UK was ready to leave without a deal.

Well Johnson put the no deal revolver on he table and has been playing with it ever since.

If he insists on reneging on the WA the EU are going to tell him to just go ahead and use it.

Followed by sanctions, fines and a possible trade war.

Is this what Brexiteers voted for?

I suspect not but they claim they knew what they were voting for. 

You seem to be an ex Protestant and Unionist, please tell me was it "Teresa" who arranged for a border 

within the UK? 

[rott]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Running and hiding from the facts and issues eh?

You Brexiteers have been called out. Its over.

No deal Brexit.

Its what you voted for. 

And you papist Sinn Feiners are loving it. 

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, rott said:

And you papist Sinn Feiners are loving it. 

I am not going to report that.

I am just going to laugh at you ya clown. ????

[7by7]

 

26 minutes ago, rott said:

<snip>

please tell me was it "Teresa" who arranged for a border 

within the UK? 

 No, it was Boris. At the time he hailed it as a triumph which would get Brexit done!

 

Whilst not ideal in terms of Brexit, May's backstop would have kept the UK as one, borderless entity and kept the Belfast agreement intact. Replacing that backstop with a border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK is the only difference between May's deal and Johnson's.

 

Now Johnson wants to remove his Northern Ireland Protocol from his withdrawal agreement. This will break the Belfast agreement as it effectively places a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.

 

It also leaves us with the rump of his deal; identical in every way to the deal Brexiteers condemned as BRINO. Odd that this is now what they want!

[Loiner]

7 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

 

 

Now Johnson wants to remove his Northern Ireland Protocol from his withdrawal agreement. This will break the Belfast agreement as it effectively places a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.

 

 

Sounds a bit alarmist there - are you sure about that? Where does he say that, because you really need to get facts right with this type of claim don't you? Its not what his Internal Markets Bill does. 

Maybe not a bad idea overall, but it would be your EU making any hard borders though..........

[7by7]

2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Sounds a bit alarmist there - are you sure about that? Where does he say that, because you really need to get facts right with this type of claim don't you? Its not what his Internal Markets Bill does. 

Maybe not a bad idea overall, but it would be your EU making any hard borders though..........

 

I suggest that you do some research rather than simply post your usual Pavlovian response that because Boris said it, it's better than Holy Writ.

 

Then you will know what is obvious to the rest of us; including the DUP who you love to call upon in support of your arguments.