Hello gentlemen

I would like to Share My experience with all smokers on Thaivisa.

I am 59 years old i have been smoking cigarettes since i’m 14 or 15; I started  smoking ganja around 16 or 17 though not on a daily basis.

When i reached 30, as i was practisising sports (soccer tennis squash and running) i felt i needed to quit smoking to improve my breathe. I tried all the methods that were available at that time. Impossible to stop ! I dont blame nothing else than me, My lack of will may be the reason why i couldn’t succeed.

Anyway i was young fit and i could deal with it.

In 2011 i started e-cig and quit smoking cigarettes. But from wake up to sleep i had it on mouth. When My mum passed away i started cigarettes again. 
Septembre last year i felt that i have a slighty lack of breathing when i walked fast.

i wait until june to go and see doctor. She gave me prescription for a lung scanner.

Result : i have a cancer.
So here i am now with chimio and everything a man suffering from cancer has to deal with. I have to tell you guys it’s not fun at all. I know i may die soon or later and i accept it though later wd be better.

 

Anyway, the consequences are not only concerning myself but My close family too : i have 2 daughters 19 and 22 years old and My beloved thai wife. They all three handle things with courage and faith in french health service and if they might feel sad or
depressed they dont show. 
My wife came and live with us in 2009 and we planned to go and live in Thailand When i retire; forget it, no way now, even if i survive, i will never be able to afford medical care or even health insurance, anyway no insurance would accept to cover me. I dont even know if i will be able to go again on holidays there. 
I realize that i probably will not see My daughters become adults and be able to help or support them if they are in trouble someday. I realize that i probably not know the children they will have.
And will not play music with my mates again and all the things I love to do and that make life sweet.

(i realize I probably will not see PSG win the champions League ????)
All this story to tell that when you smoke all your life cancer is not ineluctable but very very probable.

And if it happens, you have to say  adios to everything you have been planning and you have been patiently set up for years and everything you love and love to do.

And that you have to deal with the feeling that you realize that you will leave all the persons you love and enlighten your days.
And this happen from one day - one minut - to another and become concrete, it’s in your life and mind and there’s nothing you can do to lower your pain except try to take it as a. man and not bother everyone too much.

I am sorry for long story, I just wanted to share this with you and if after reading this, only one among you guys decide and succeeds to stop smoking, then I would not have write in vain.

Cheers,

Fred

 

 another deadly drug that governments worldwide knew to be harmful. They became addicted themselves to the cash generated from taxation so they let the companies freewheel drawing in millions to another poison..

I was shocked when I visited Chiang Mai and had to stay indoors much of the time to avoid breathing problems. Burning season is a danger to all it's citizens. 

 

Ditto...Siagon and Vietnam in general...smokers everywhere...no place to escape.

 

Many non-smokers die of lung cancer each year...can be linked to prolonged exposure to second hand smoke.

 

Just Stop it!

2 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

 another deadly drug that governments worldwide knew to be harmful. They became addicted themselves to the cash generated from taxation so they let the companies freewheel drawing in millions to another poison..

So what just freedom of choice. People know its bad but still do it.

1 minute ago, robblok said:

So what just freedom of choice. People know its bad but still do it.

 

Todays poison is unhealthy food and sugar, and people do not move their body. 

1 minute ago, Tagged said:

 

Todays poison is unhealthy food and sugar, and people do not move their body. 

 

True.. but a choice is a choice. I feel drugs and bad food should be free. As long as you dont harm others do it to your self. 

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

 

True.. but a choice is a choice. I feel drugs and bad food should be free. As long as you dont harm others do it to your self. 

It is a problem for society, so you harm your family, your freinds, and it cost society money, same as smoking

38 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

I was shocked when I visited Chiang Mai and had to stay indoors much of the time to avoid breathing problems. Burning season is a danger to all it's citizens. 

 

Ditto...Siagon and Vietnam in general...smokers everywhere...no place to escape.

 

Many non-smokers die of lung cancer each year...can be linked to prolonged exposure to second hand smoke.

 

Just Stop it!

Yep. Having lived in Vietnam and visited countless times, I was surprised to find how backward they are (for a lack of a better term) when it comes to banning smoking in public places. There are still lots of restaurants and cafes with smoking sections or where patrons light up anywhere inside the restaurant. 

 

I'd say that in Vietnam, there are easily 50% more male smokers than in Thailand, and it's about the same small percentage of women. 

40 minutes ago, Tagged said:

It is a problem for society, so you harm your family, your freinds, and it cost society money, same as smoking

Too bad still should be a free choice though id say tax the products and make them pay for the harm they do. I don't believe in banning stuff. Its a personal freedom and as long as people take responsibility im ok with it.

20 hours ago, robblok said:

So what just freedom of choice. People know its bad but still do it.

 governments knew of the dangers prior to it becoming public knowledge and cashed in anyways, once it became known how cancerous it was millions were already addicted..

Well done Fred nothing focuses the mind to quit smoking like a possible end game in my case a heart attack good luck and live everyday ????

Sorry for your plight... but thanks for posting. We all have some bad habits...

 

The reports I have seen are that those E-cigs are a fast train to disaster... 

 

I did have a cancer scare when I was 48 - I used it as an opportunity to slow my life down and appreciate everything by proceeding mindfully... 

 

You can still enjoy the days you have... 

8 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Well done Fred nothing focuses the mind to quit smoking like a possible end game in my case a heart attack good luck and live everyday ????

Thanks ! good thing you stopped !

cheers

7 hours ago, kenk24 said:

Sorry for your plight... but thanks for posting. We all have some bad habits...

 

The reports I have seen are that those E-cigs are a fast train to disaster... 

 

I did have a cancer scare when I was 48 - I used it as an opportunity to slow my life down and appreciate everything by proceeding mindfully... 

 

You can still enjoy the days you have... 

you are right about e-cig but it’s a good way to quit cigarettes provided you quit e-cig fast ????

cheers 

On 9/22/2020 at 6:34 PM, Tagged said:

 

Todays poison is unhealthy food and sugar, and people do not move their body. 

I avoid both.

On 9/22/2020 at 6:34 PM, Tagged said:

 

Todays poison is unhealthy food and sugar, and people do not move their body. 

Yes, obesity is a serious condition, too. That's probably why all private health insurances want your data to calculate your BMI. 

9 minutes ago, micmichd said:

Yes, obesity is a serious condition, too. That's probably why all private health insurances want your data to calculate your BMI. 

My bmi says I am fat, but in reality I have less than 17% body fat at the moment, so well in range for a healthy body. 

Smoking does reduce the risk or impact of Parkinson's disease.

I smoke and try to avoid inconveniencing others. Some anti smokers travel great distances to be offended.

I tell off smokers who throw butts on the ground (great idea to get rid of filterless cigs (I don't count Camel - can't get into them).

Those of us who are hooked have to be careful and others, try to be tolerant.

On 9/22/2020 at 2:49 AM, from the home of CC said:

 another deadly drug that governments worldwide knew to be harmful. They became addicted themselves to the cash generated from taxation so they let the companies freewheel drawing in millions to another poison..

Well...you can look at it two ways. Certainly the US government came out strongly against smoking in the 1970s short of outright banning. Not sure I can say the same for European countries, where there are STILL a lot more smokers. The high cigarette taxes (a single pack costs anywhere from $5 to $10 depending on which state) don't really earn state/local/federal governments that much, but they constitute a strong disincentive to start smoking. I was lucky, by the way. I quit in 1976 when I was 26 because, yes, my kindly doctor kept showing me photos of rotted lungs (and by the way, my current urologist reports that smokers get kidney cancer, too) BUT I was able to quit mainly because I had some weird kind of colitis that made the cigarettes taste bad. Normally they had a nice flavor, to me. I knew this was the time to "strike," and thanks to the colitis causing bad-tasting smoke, I quit cold-turkey.

29 minutes ago, Cats4ever said:

Smoking does reduce the risk or impact of Parkinson's disease.

I smoke and try to avoid inconveniencing others. Some anti smokers travel great distances to be offended.

I tell off smokers who throw butts on the ground (great idea to get rid of filterless cigs (I don't count Camel - can't get into them).

Those of us who are hooked have to be careful and others, try to be tolerant.

From the note above you know when I quit, but the only cig for me was Marlboro--and apparently for Italians, too. When I was a US Navy sailor in the early '70s home-ported in Naples, a carton of Marlboros was literally currency--a carton of genuine Marlboros (as opposed tothe local knock-offs) was worth $20 and you could either get cash for it or barter many things.

On 9/22/2020 at 6:07 AM, TheFreqFlyer said:

Yep. Having lived in Vietnam and visited countless times, I was surprised to find how backward they are (for a lack of a better term) when it comes to banning smoking in public places. There are still lots of restaurants and cafes with smoking sections or where patrons light up anywhere inside the restaurant. 

 

I'd say that in Vietnam, there are easily 50% more male smokers than in Thailand, and it's about the same small percentage of women. 

Probably a lot of South Koreans and Japanese too, especially businessmen/"salarymen."

1 hour ago, Tagged said:

My bmi says I am fat, but in reality I have less than 17% body fat at the moment, so well in range for a healthy body. 

Then put "no" in the form when they ask you for conditions, but be sure any kinds of arthrosis will not be covered then. If you don't have arthrosis, even better. 

9 minutes ago, Dustdevil said:

From the note above you know when I quit, but the only cig for me was Marlboro--and apparently for Italians, too. When I was a US Navy sailor in the early '70s home-ported in Naples, a carton of Marlboros was literally currency--a carton of genuine Marlboros (as opposed tothe local knock-offs) was worth $20 and you could either get cash for it or barter many things.

Yet the Marlboro cowboy died long ago... 

This should be posted in the Chiang Mai section.

 

After smoking a packet a day for 50 years and thinking I was bullet proof, I was diagnosed with lung cancer at 65 years old. Giving up was easy when I found out. I have'nt smoked for 10 months now and chemo is going well! I can no longer stand the smell of cigarettes or smokers!

A very good report poster.  It may help others to cease the habit. However as a Newsagent and Tobacconist

it was second nature to smoke. Thankfully i stopped 35 years ago.

Thank you for sharing. Best wishes and good luck. I really hope you are able to make it back to Thailand to visit your daughters one day.

On 9/22/2020 at 6:36 PM, robblok said:

 

True.. but a choice is a choice. I feel drugs and bad food should be free. As long as you dont harm others do it to your self. 

In an ideal world, yes, but people have Again, and again  proved they need protection, protection against themselves, so Im for government control of food, drinks, tobacco, drugs, gambling, 

smoking has killed many of my friends and I hate tobacco and tune vile deaths it brings! Are you addicted then choose live or die!

Please choose to live! Life is so short!