Rookiescot Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, evadgib said: Yes & Yes and I haven't regretted it and cannot see that I ever will. No matter the damage it will do to the country? Wow such a patriot. Theres a word for people who deliberately hurt their own country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: No matter the damage it will do to the country? Wow such a patriot. Theres a word for people who deliberately hurt their own country. I love solving puzzles - I have it. Remainers! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: No matter the damage it will do to the country? Wow such a patriot. Theres a word for people who deliberately hurt their own country. You'll need to master the snare before attempting a bear trap ???? Edited September 27, 2020 by evadgib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, nauseus said: I love solving puzzles - I have it. Remainers! Remainers knew what they were voting for. Did you? Does this Brexit look like the Brexit you expected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, evadgib said: You'll need to master the snare before attempting a bear trap ???? Snares and traps? You guys voted to make the country walk through a minefield. And somehow you find the entire thing amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Lets face it Loiner. You voted to leave the EU because if immigration. Nothing more nothing less. Did your gut instinct tell you we would be leaving with no deal despite what the leave campaign were saying? Never ceases to amaze me how Remainers think they can mind read, especially of Leavers. Needless to say, they can’t. So how about your Frreedom instruction, was it from Mel Gibson? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Remainers knew what they were voting for. Did you? Does this Brexit look like the Brexit you expected? As far as I remember, Remainers were voting for free mobile roaming across the EU and that's about all they could come up with. Of course I knew what I wanted. I did not know what to expect but given all of the stalling, bad leadership, ill will and an absence of common sense from both sides since the vote, the present mess is not surprising to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, Loiner said: Never ceases to amaze me how Remainers think they can mind read, especially of Leavers. Needless to say, they can’t. So how about your Frreedom instruction, was it from Mel Gibson? Yeah but I'm right aint I Loiner. You voted how you did because of immigration didn't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Snares and traps? You guys voted to make the country walk through a minefield. And somehow you find the entire thing amusing. It was pretty much an 'I'm Spartacus'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, nauseus said: As far as I remember, Remainers were voting for free mobile roaming across the EU and that's about all they could come up with. Of course I knew what I wanted. I did not know what to expect but given all of the stalling, bad leadership, ill will and an absence of common sense from both sides since the vote, the present mess is not surprising to me. ROFL. Were you even at the game caller? The ONLY thing you can remember about the remain campaign was roaming costs? Seriously? I am no longer surprised we left given how much detailed and forensic research the Brexiteers seem to have put into their thought process. Mully and Sculder would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Yeah but I'm right aint I Loiner. You voted how you did because of immigration didn't you. I am very happy to declare that immigration was definitely one of my reasons for voting Leave. Well spotted Rookie, have you followed my posts? It wouldn’t have taken a mastermind to deduce that because it’s not a secret. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, nauseus said: As far as I remember, Remainers were voting for free mobile roaming across the EU and that's about all they could come up with. Of course I knew what I wanted. I did not know what to expect but given all of the stalling, bad leadership, ill will and an absence of common sense from both sides since the vote, the present mess is not surprising to me. The Karens all thought they would not be allowed hols in Marbs without a Remain vote. Gullible youth were well taken in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Loiner said: The Karens all thought they would not be allowed hols in Marbs without a Remain vote. Gullible youth were well taken in. The Swiss showing they're somewhat brighter than the Brits. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54316316 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post welovesundaysatspace Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, bannork said: The Swiss showing they're somewhat brighter than the Brits. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54316316 That must be the beginning of the end of the EU that Brexiteers keep predicting for decades. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: ROFL. Were you even at the game caller? The ONLY thing you can remember about the remain campaign was roaming costs? Seriously? I am no longer surprised we left given how much detailed and forensic research the Brexiteers seem to have put into their thought process. Mully and Sculder would be impressed. The roaming costs did seem to be the main complaint from the remainers interviewed on TV just after the vote - yes - seriously. I do remember that the remain campaign was full of Project Fear, lies and poor arguments in televised debates, which your champions, like Clegg, seemed to lose consistently badly. If you had actually done any detailed and forensic research you might even have voted leave, just like Mully and Sculder would have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post plentyofnuttin Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 9 hours ago, nauseus said: The leave vote had little to do with any kind of trade deals. But remainers always ignore that. Always. Really? Which is why Gove said this? "The UK would still be able to trade freely within Europe even if it left the EU, Michael Gove has said. The justice secretary said the UK could be part of Europe's free trade area to avoid trade tariffs, even if it was not a member of the EU single market... On trading, he said the UK would be part of the European free trade zone with access to the European single market but "free from EU regulation which costs us billions of pounds a year". https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36074853 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, plentyofnuttin said: Really? Which is why Gove said this? "The UK would still be able to trade freely within Europe even if it left the EU, Michael Gove has said. The justice secretary said the UK could be part of Europe's free trade area to avoid trade tariffs, even if it was not a member of the EU single market... On trading, he said the UK would be part of the European free trade zone with access to the European single market but "free from EU regulation which costs us billions of pounds a year". https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36074853 Thanks - this just proves the point I was making - bravo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post plentyofnuttin Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, nauseus said: Thanks - this just proves the point I was making - bravo. The point you were making is that the campaign was that retaining the privileges of free trade was not part and parcel of the leave campaign. Gove's remarks prove that this is an obvious falsehood. And it was obviously false during the Brexit campaign. At least obvious to Remainers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, plentyofnuttin said: The point you were making is that the campaign was that retaining the privileges of free trade was not part and parcel of the leave campaign. Gove's remarks prove that this is an obvious falsehood. And it was obviously false during the Brexit campaign. At least obvious to Remainers. No it wasn't my point. You brought Gove in, I didn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, nauseus said: The roaming costs did seem to be the main complaint from the remainers interviewed on TV just after the vote - yes - seriously. I do remember that the remain campaign was full of Project Fear, lies and poor arguments in televised debates, which your champions, like Clegg, seemed to lose consistently badly. If you had actually done any detailed and forensic research you might even have voted leave, just like Mully and Sculder would have. And yet the complaint now is we are getting horsed out of the single market. Project fear has become project reality. Enjoy your empiric victory. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Rookiescot said: And yet the complaint now is we are getting horsed out of the single market. Project fear has become project reality. Enjoy your empiric victory. Don't know who's complaining. Must be a remanier thing. The EU rules are quite clear. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Rookiescot said: And yet the complaint now is we are getting horsed out of the single market. Project fear has become project reality. Enjoy your empiric victory. The only ones complaining are remainers. Tell me which Brexiteers are complaining about the possibility of no deal? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: If/when the K gets a deal with the EU, it will involve the U.K. making payments to the EU. What makes you think this? What other countries make payments to another country to have a free trade deal? Edited September 27, 2020 by CG1 Blue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post polpott Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said: The only ones complaining are remainers. Tell me which Brexiteers are complaining about the possibility of no deal? I'm just as much a proud Englishman as you. I want the best for my country and my children as you do. In 1974 I voted to leave the Common Market. In 2016, I listened to both sides of the argument and came to the conclusion that the leave campaigners had ulterior motives and the campaign was riddled with blatant lies. My opinion was that leaving the EU would be a disaster for the UK so I voted remain. You took the opposite view and voted leave. We both voted for what we thought was in the best interests of our country. We're not enemies, we both voted with our hearts. As the withdrawal progressed, I became more and more certain that I'd made the right decision and now it's pretty obvious to everyone that a no deal Brexit will do untold damage to our country and that all along Johnson has engineered a no deal brexit. It will happen, no one can stop Johnson now. Yes, I'm gutted and I suspect many brexiteers are too now that they realise they made the wrong decision. However there's no way that they will ever admit their mistake. They blunder on spouting endless meaningless rhetoric to try to cover up the part they have played in driving the country we love onto the rocks. I pity them. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Tool from U.K. gov. To know price rises 1 Jan.21 https://www.check-future-uk-trade-tariffs.service.gov.uk/tariff?q=&n=25&p=1 https://www.gov.uk/check-tariffs-1-january-2021 Search for your goods You can search using: A commodity code The product description A combination of these This tool illustrates the UKGT’s applied rates only. It does not cover other import duties or measures, including anti-dumping, countervailing or safeguards duties, or any other form of restrictions on imports. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phulublub Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 6 hours ago, CG1 Blue said: What makes you think this? What other countries make payments to another country to have a free trade deal? Not sure, but I think Norway does. PH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phulublub Posted September 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Phulublub said: Not sure, but I think Norway does. PH https://fullfact.org/europe/norway-eu-payments/ Appears I thought correctly. Still, all those who voted to leave knew what they were voting for. PH 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted September 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2020 10 hours ago, polpott said: I listened to both sides of the argument and came to the conclusion that the leave campaigners had ulterior motives and the campaign was riddled with blatant lies. My opinion was that leaving the EU would be a disaster for the UK so I voted remain. You took the opposite view and voted leave. We both voted for what we thought was in the best interests of our country. We're not enemies, we both voted with our hearts. As the withdrawal progressed, I became more and more certain that I'd made the right decision and now it's pretty obvious to everyone that a no deal Brexit will do untold damage to our country and that all along Johnson has engineered a no deal brexit. It will happen, no one can stop Johnson now. Yes, I'm gutted and I suspect many brexiteers are too now that they realise they made the wrong decision. However there's no way that they will ever admit their mistake. They blunder on spouting endless meaningless rhetoric to try to cover up the part they have played in driving the country we love onto the rocks. I pity them. I did you a favour and corrected a few typos: I listened to both sides of the argument and came to the conclusion that the Remain campaigners had ulterior motives and the campaign was riddled with blatant lies. My opinion was that leaving the EU would be best for the UK so I voted Leave. You took the opposite view and voted Remain. We both voted for what we thought was in the best interests of our country. We're not enemies, we both voted with our hearts. As the withdrawal progressed, I became more and more certain that I'd made the right decision and now it's pretty obvious to everyone that a no deal Brexit would be better than staying subservient to the EU and that all along Johnson has stayed resilient. It may happen, no one can bully Johnson now. Yes, I'm delighted and I suspect many brexiteers are too now that they realise they made the right decision. However there's no way that remainers will ever admit their mistake. They blunder on spouting endless meaningless rhetoric to try to cover up the part they have played in trying to drive the country we love onto the rocks to prove a point. I pity them. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: I did you a favour and corrected a few typos: I listened to both sides of the argument and came to the conclusion that the Remain campaigners had ulterior motives and the campaign was riddled with blatant lies. My opinion was that leaving the EU would be best for the UK so I voted Leave. You took the opposite view and voted Remain. We both voted for what we thought was in the best interests of our country. We're not enemies, we both voted with our hearts. As the withdrawal progressed, I became more and more certain that I'd made the right decision and now it's pretty obvious to everyone that a no deal Brexit would be better than staying subservient to the EU and that all along Johnson has stayed resilient. It may happen, no one can bully Johnson now. Yes, I'm delighted and I suspect many brexiteers are too now that they realise they made the right decision. However there's no way that remainers will ever admit their mistake. They blunder on spouting endless meaningless rhetoric to try to cover up the part they have played in trying to drive the country we love onto the rocks to prove a point. I pity them. I see some common ground there. It's a move in the right direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 11 hours ago, polpott said: I'm just as much a proud Englishman as you. I want the best for my country and my children as you do. In 1974 I voted to leave the Common Market. In 2016, I listened to both sides of the argument and came to the conclusion that the leave campaigners had ulterior motives and the campaign was riddled with blatant lies. My opinion was that leaving the EU would be a disaster for the UK so I voted remain. You took the opposite view and voted leave. We both voted for what we thought was in the best interests of our country. We're not enemies, we both voted with our hearts. As the withdrawal progressed, I became more and more certain that I'd made the right decision and now it's pretty obvious to everyone that a no deal Brexit will do untold damage to our country and that all along Johnson has engineered a no deal brexit. It will happen, no one can stop Johnson now. Yes, I'm gutted and I suspect many brexiteers are too now that they realise they made the wrong decision. However there's no way that they will ever admit their mistake. They blunder on spouting endless meaningless rhetoric to try to cover up the part they have played in driving the country we love onto the rocks. I pity them. Going well until the second line before crashing back into the same old didn't know what they were voting for cobblers. Pathetic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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