Thai parliament delays vote on charter changes, sets up study panel

[webfact]

Parliament delays vote on charter changes, sets up study panel

 

 

Parliament has voted overwhelmingly to set up a joint committee to study motions seeking amendments to the Constitution in a move seen by the opposition bloc and anti-government protesters as a delaying tactic.

 

Hundreds of protesters rallying outside the chamber shouted in anger after hearing about the vote. Members of the House of Representatives and the Senate voted 432-255 with 28 abstentions to set up a committee to study the motions and report back to the Parliament within one month.

 

Pheu Thai and most of the opposition parties boycotted the 45-member committee. The vote followed two days of intense debate on the six motions seeking to amend the Constitution.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/parliament-delays-vote-on-charter-changes-sets-up-study-panel/

 

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[webfact]

Speaker says he was led to believe there would be a vote on constitutional amendments

 

 

Thailand’s Parliament President and House Speaker Chuan Leekpai said Thursday night that he was duped into believing that there would be a vote today on each of the six motions proposing constitutional amendments.

 

He told lawmakers at about 8.30pm that he was prepared for the vote, only to learn that the joint sitting of the Senate and the House had, instead, voted to set up a special panel to study the motions within a month, before returning them to Parliament for a new round of debate.

 

He told lawmakers, who thought they had been duped, that he, too, had been duped. He then told them to take care not to get infected with COVID-19 during the long recess, before he read a Royal Command announcing the closure of the parliamentary session.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/speaker-says-he-was-led-to-believe-there-would-be-a-vote-on-constitutional-amendments/

 

 

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[Thaiwrath]

6 minutes ago, webfact said:

He told lawmakers, who thought they had been duped, that he, too, had been duped. 

The whole country has been duped, not just this farce, but they have been duped by this shambles of a government for six consecutive years. The sooner they depart, the better for everyone, except them and their full bank accounts.

[ukrules]

Who, I wonder is doing the 'duping'?

[RichardColeman]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

voted to set up a special panel to study the motions within a month, before returning them to Parliament for a new round of debate.

I dare say closely followed by a new panel to study the debate of the parliament debate, to return within a month for a new debate on the debating of the original debate debate

[Justgrazing]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

He told lawmakers, who thought they had been duped, that he, too, had been duped

Sounds more like they were pooped on .. best regroup to recoup what they were duped on then .. 

[PatOngo]

Chuan, you've been around long enough to know you don't trust anyone wearing a uniform or a suit!

[PatOngo]

13 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

I dare say closely followed by a new panel to study the debate of the parliament debate, to return within a month for a new debate on the debating of the original debate debate

Sounds like they're all involved in a big mass debate! 

[PatOngo]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

He told lawmakers, who thought they had been duped, that he, too, had been duped. 

Is that not the very essence of this govt from day one!

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, PatOngo said:

Sounds like they're all involved in a big mass debate! 

Are you saying they're a bunch of Wayne Carr's?

[Matzzon]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand’s Parliament President and House Speaker Chuan Leekpai said Thursday night that he was duped into believing that there would be a vote today on each of the six motions proposing constitutional amendments.

Of course he was, and he is not the only one that has been duped since the last election.

[FarFlungFalang]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

He told lawmakers, who thought they had been duped, that he, too, had been duped.

Any one who believes this guy has been duped.He's part of the gang. 

[ThailandRyan]

They just continue to stoke the fire burning in the masses who derest this Government.  I truly believe this vile government is just waiting for all hell to break loose so they can place the county under lock and key and do what they want.  Oh wait they have.  It is going to get pretty nasty as this continues. Waiting on the tanks and checkpoints like in 2014.

[bodga]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I dare say closely followed by a new panel to study the debate of the parliament debate, to return within a month for a new debate on the debating of the original debate debate

so they are  ALL mass debaters,  Ill agree  with that!

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I dare say closely followed by a new panel to study the debate of the parliament debate, to return within a month for a new debate on the debating of the original debate debate

In other words it's just another delay tactic which could continue for many months, perhaps even more. All of them as scaly as they come. 

[rkidlad]

I can’t believe it. It was all just a ruse to keep on delaying. 
 

I guess it is true what they say; you can’t trust lying, degenerate c%#*#! 

[PatOngo]

53 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Are you saying they're a bunch of Wayne Carr's?

No, a bunch of Wang Kerr's.

[SaamBaht]

Delay? In Thailand? Who would have thunk it? 

[yellowboat]

For the good of the nation, perhaps Chuan should be a little less conciliatory to the junta.   The junta is far worse than Thaksin ever was. 

[webfact]

Parliament votes to delay charter amendment process

By The Nation

 

 

Senators could afford a sigh of relief on Thursday after Parliament voted to delay a decision on six motions for charter change.

 

Instead, a committee was set up to study the motions for Constitution amendments ahead of a vote on the motions in one month’s time.

 

Opposition Pheu Thai and Move Forward MPs walked out in protest after MPs and senators voted 431 to 255 to postpone the amendment vote and then 432-255 to set up the committee.

 

To pass, a motion needs the votes of at least 84 senators.

 

The committee set up to examine the proposed amendments will consist of 45 members – 15 senators and 30 MPs from the opposition and ruling coalition parties. Pheu Thai and Move Forward refused to nominate members from their parties. A rally of about 1,000 protesters gathered outside Parliament to press for charter change.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30395093

 

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[Phuketshrew]

12 minutes ago, webfact said:

Senators could afford a sigh of relief on Thursday after Parliament voted to delay a decision on six motions for charter change.

It would be akin to turkeys voting for Christmas.

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, bodga said:

so they are  ALL mass debaters,  Ill agree  with that!

Don't forget the numerous committees and committees within committees etc., etc.,  all just delay tactics. 

 

IMHO unfortunately too much delay will possibly bring more mass protests and possibly violence (but I hope not) then more military control.

 

There's a long way to go before we see any real changes. 

 

 

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He told lawmakers at about 8.30pm that he was prepared for the vote, only to learn that the joint sitting of the Senate and the House had, instead, voted to set up a special panel to study the motions within a month, before returning them to Parliament for a new round of debate.

Debate, committees, more debates, sub-committees.. talk, talk, talk and never any action.

Keep the protests growing it's the only way to force changes.

[kotsak]

I bet the senators didn't exit the building through the front gate.. ????

[Burma Bill]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

announcing the closure of the parliamentary session.

 

Possibly now paving the way for a coup???

[johnarth]

 so the bosses boss has spoken, leave the laws alone, we set them up for us to do whatever we want, we do not want them changed. a lot of people might have to take a walk even the little nest egg of 225

[SupermarineS6B]

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

They just continue to stoke the fire burning in the masses who derest this Government.  I truly believe this vile government is just waiting for all hell to break loose so they can place the county under lock and key and do what they want.  Oh wait they have.  It is going to get pretty nasty as this continues. Waiting on the tanks and checkpoints like in 2014.

You can feel it coming....... If it doesn't we're all DOOMED !  

[Bundooman]

Reference my comments on another current topic - extending the Emergency powers.

Are these two linked?

[Artben]

It would seem that the lawmakers have taken de bait, hook, line and sinker.

[JusticeGB]

Very stupid thing to do. Doubtless it will play into the hands of the protesting students and anger them more. Probably they will get support from other people as it not looks like the Government has no intention of changing the Charter.