Trump campaign rejects changing debate rules after chaotic Cleveland encounter

[Scott]

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[Credo]

8 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Justin Trudeau kept on running Canada during his isolation period.

Does that mean that Trump might now start running the country?

[2 is 1]

24 minutes ago, Credo said:

Does that mean that Trump might now start running the country?

No! But maybe if he have covid , he tell even one fact about it!

I think he get huge hypo whit bleach, after put that in hes system. He take uv lamp and swallow that! 

Edited October 2, 2020 by 2 is 1

[Gandtee]

7 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

No! But maybe if he have covid , he tell even one fact about it!

I think he get huge hypo whit bleach, after put that in hes system. He take uv lamp and swallow that! 

Bleach might ruin his orange skin.????

[mthomsen111]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Delivers as in -

 

- Build the Wall.

- Reveal financial information.

- Have the most transparent administration.

- Winning trade wars.

- Covid gone by Easter.

- Antifa not declared a terrorist organization.

 

Plenty of others.

 

But do tell, in what meaningful way does Trump consider the American people as his boss?

Also better health insurance

Trillion dollar infrastructure

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The only sensible option at this point would be for Biden to wirltbdraw from the remainder of the debates. He does not need them. And Trump will continue with his gutteral, pit bull style. 

 

Or Biden could pull a Reagan. There you go again. 73 interruptions last time. Let's count how many this time. Let Trump bury himself. 

 

Only the most die hard devotees think Trump won that last debate. You have to be consuming alot of Koolaid to feel that way. Biden held his own against a street thug. 

Trump did not win, but neither did Biden. He lost when he called Trump a clown. To win he'd have had to look the more mature candidate, but he tried to play Trump at his own game and no way he can do that IMO.

If he had just stopped talking whenever Trump interrupted and made Trump look like a jerk he would have won, IMO.

If Trump doesn't up his game he's not going to do well next time, IMO.

[heybruce]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump did not win, but neither did Biden. He lost when he called Trump a clown. To win he'd have had to look the more mature candidate, but he tried to play Trump at his own game and no way he can do that IMO.

If he had just stopped talking whenever Trump interrupted and made Trump look like a jerk he would have won, IMO.

If Trump doesn't up his game he's not going to do well next time, IMO.

If Biden had stopped talking whenever Trump interrupted Trump would have talked non-stop for the entire 90 minutes and his supporters would be bragging about how he dominated the "debate".

[J Town]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump did not win, but neither did Biden. He lost when he called Trump a clown. To win he'd have had to look the more mature candidate, but he tried to play Trump at his own game and no way he can do that IMO.

If he had just stopped talking whenever Trump interrupted and made Trump look like a jerk he would have won, IMO.

If Trump doesn't up his game he's not going to do well next time, IMO.

Immediately following the debate, Republican politicians were asked what they thought about 45's behavior in the debate. I heard "awful," "embarrassing," and even Republican news sources reported 45's closest aides wanted to tell him how bad he did, but they knew 45 would never want to hear such. He told those close to him "I did great," and the aides were quietly waiting for him to engorge himself on cable news to have it sink in how bad he did. The game plan was to let Biden slip up - he almost ALWAYS delivers gaffes! - but 45 never game him the chance. 45 is his own worst enemy.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

If Biden had stopped talking whenever Trump interrupted Trump would have talked non-stop for the entire 90 minutes and his supporters would be bragging about how he dominated the "debate".

Given that neither IMO said anything that meant anything, Biden would have "won" just for looking more presidential.

I doubt anything said changed anyone's mind about who to vote for. Trump looked like a playground bully, IMO, and Biden looked weak, IMO.

[wwest5829]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO they should either bring in a physical barrier between them ( even have each in a seperate room and video conference ) and muting the mic of the one not supposed to be speaking or cancel them altogether. No one won that fiasco.

I would welcome the entertainment of seeing The Donald waving his hands about and speaking to interrupt while none of us could hear him because his allotted speaking time was up ...

[Srikcir]

Trump just tested positive for covid 19.

14 day quarantine for him and most White House staff?

Edited October 2, 2020 by Srikcir
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[mthomsen111]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given that neither IMO said anything that meant anything, Biden would have "won" just for looking more presidential.

I doubt anything said changed anyone's mind about who to vote for. Trump looked like a playground bully, IMO, and Biden looked weak, IMO.

I think you're right as far as voting goes. Polls taken after the vote show that most viewers thought Biden won. But it didn't seem to shift the votes.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, J Town said:

Immediately following the debate, Republican politicians were asked what they thought about 45's behavior in the debate. I heard "awful," "embarrassing," and even Republican news sources reported 45's closest aides wanted to tell him how bad he did, but they knew 45 would never want to hear such. He told those close to him "I did great," and the aides were quietly waiting for him to engorge himself on cable news to have it sink in how bad he did. The game plan was to let Biden slip up - he almost ALWAYS delivers gaffes! - but 45 never game him the chance. 45 is his own worst enemy.

No matter how much Republicans dislike Trump and despair at things like his behaviour during the debate, they'll never, IMO, vote for Biden and Trump is the only way to keep Biden ( and probably eventually Harris ) out of power, so they'll vote for him, IMO. IMO any Republican sees Biden and everything he stands for as a disaster if elected.

The Dems, IMO, slipped up badly when allowing Biden to be the candidate, but back then they probably thought Trump was going to win anyway, so it didn't matter if Biden was the candidate.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No matter how much Republicans dislike Trump and despair at things like his behaviour during the debate, they'll never, IMO, vote for Biden and Trump is the only way to keep Biden ( and probably eventually Harris ) out of power, so they'll vote for him, IMO. IMO any Republican sees Biden and everything he stands for as a disaster if elected.

The Dems, IMO, slipped up badly when allowing Biden to be the candidate, but back then they probably thought Trump was going to win anyway, so it didn't matter if Biden was the candidate.

Quite a few Republicans have publicly stated they'll vote for Biden.

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

No matter how much Republicans dislike Trump and despair at things like his behaviour during the debate, they'll never, IMO, vote for Biden and Trump is the only way to keep Biden ( and probably eventually Harris ) out of power, so they'll vote for him, IMO. IMO any Republican sees Biden and everything he stands for as a disaster if elected.

The Dems, IMO, slipped up badly when allowing Biden to be the candidate, but back then they probably thought Trump was going to win anyway, so it didn't matter if Biden was the candidate.

That's a fair assessment. For what it's worth, Bernie would have won 2016 as well as 2020, but Big Pharma and corporations weren't gonna let THAT happen.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 minutes ago, J Town said:

Immediately following the debate, Republican politicians were asked what they thought about 45's behavior in the debate. I heard "awful," "embarrassing," and even Republican news sources reported 45's closest aides wanted to tell him how bad he did, but they knew 45 would never want to hear such. He told those close to him "I did great," and the aides were quietly waiting for him to engorge himself on cable news to have it sink in how bad he did. The game plan was to let Biden slip up - he almost ALWAYS delivers gaffes! - but 45 never game him the chance. 45 is his own worst enemy.

IMO Trump doesn't care what people think. IMO he's just going to be himself and have fun. The tapes before the last election were so bad that I thought he was done then, but he won despite them, so I think that people will vote for him no matter how bad he gets just to keep Biden out of the big chair. It still, IMO, comes down to a choice between two bad candidates and IMO Trump is the least bad. I think anti Trumpers don't realise just how much the Dems are disliked by so many that they will vote for Trump despite his failings just to keep the Dems out of power. I can't think of anything the Dems are offering that would make me vote for Biden if I were able to do so.

The Dems need to have a message of hope for a better life, but seems to me all they have is Trump bad, Trump bad.

Edited October 2, 2020 by thaibeachlovers

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO Trump doesn't care what people think. IMO he's just going to be himself and have fun. The tapes before the last election were so bad that I thought he was done then, but he won despite them, so I think that people will vote for him no matter how bad he gets just to keep Biden out of the big chair. It still, IMO, comes down to a choice between two bad candidates and IMO Trump is the least bad. I think anti Trumpers don't realise just how much the Dems are disliked by so many that they will vote for Trump despite his failings just to keep the Dems out of power. I can't think of anything the Dems are offering that would make me vote for Biden if I were able to do so.

The Dems need to have a message of hope for a better life, but seems to me all they have is Trump bad, Trump bad.

"The Dems need to have a message of hope for a better life, but seems to me all they have is Trump bad, Trump bad."

Maybe time for you to learn more about this in stead of listening to the Trump soundbites. The democrats have a complete programme with well lay-out plans, in contrast with 'we'll do the same' republicans.

[ChouDoufu]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Trump campaign rejects changing debate rules

 

why not?  they've already rejected following the debate rules.

[Anant72]

7 hours ago, heybruce said:

Biden wasn't the mediator, Wallace wasn't the debater, and that wasn't a debate.  That was Trump acting like a spoiled brat and not letting anyone talk.

Quite so. The change of the rules, however, may be moot now that the big mouth has to quarantine as he was diagnosed with the innocuous flu and we don't know how the disease is going to affect him. Reality hurts!

[J Town]

29 minutes ago, Anant72 said:

Quite so. The change of the rules, however, may be moot now that the big mouth has to quarantine as he was diagnosed with the innocuous flu and we don't know how the disease is going to affect him. Reality hurts!              (I added emphasis)

in·noc·u·ous

/iˈnäkyo͞oəs/

adjective

 

1. not harmful or offensive.

    

    

[Morch]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO Trump doesn't care what people think. IMO he's just going to be himself and have fun. The tapes before the last election were so bad that I thought he was done then, but he won despite them, so I think that people will vote for him no matter how bad he gets just to keep Biden out of the big chair. It still, IMO, comes down to a choice between two bad candidates and IMO Trump is the least bad. I think anti Trumpers don't realise just how much the Dems are disliked by so many that they will vote for Trump despite his failings just to keep the Dems out of power. I can't think of anything the Dems are offering that would make me vote for Biden if I were able to do so.

The Dems need to have a message of hope for a better life, but seems to me all they have is Trump bad, Trump bad.

 

Trump doesn't care what people think. Sure. That's why he's obsessed with every negative comment made about him. Gets into childish, petty online quarrels. And constantly complains about being mistreated. But sure, he doesn't care. Whatever.

 

As for your ongoing nonsense regarding Democrats not having policies etc. - you've been referred multiple times to sources including their manifesto and program. That you choose to ignore this and keep banging on about something that isn't true does not make your point.

[J Town]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

Trump doesn't care what people think. Sure. That's why he's obsessed with every negative comment made about him. Gets into childish, petty online quarrels. And constantly complains about being mistreated. But sure, he doesn't care. Whatever.

 

As for your ongoing nonsense regarding Democrats not having policies etc. - you've been referred multiple times to sources including their manifesto and program. That you choose to ignore this and keep banging on about something that isn't true does not make your point.

Republican game plan:

“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”, is a law of propaganda often attributed to the Joseph Goebbels.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

"The Dems need to have a message of hope for a better life, but seems to me all they have is Trump bad, Trump bad."

Maybe time for you to learn more about this in stead of listening to the Trump soundbites. The democrats have a complete programme with well lay-out plans, in contrast with 'we'll do the same' republicans.

Sorry, but when the Dems want to ban personal weapons, defund the cops, support gender fluidity, increase immigration, sympathise with rioters, and raise taxes ( Biden said in the debate he'd get rid of Trump's tax cuts ), it doesn't matter what their "policies" may be otherwise.

Faced with an overt threat to law and order, guns and religion, many in middle America will opt for more of the same, IMO.

Four more years.

[ChouDoufu]

3 hours ago, J Town said:

45 would never agree to a virtual debate cuz they cute mute his obtuse, ignorant, rude interruptions. His campaign has already said as much - NO changes to future debates.

the campaigns don't have any control over the debates which are run by an independent organization and can change the rules as the situation requires.

 

the trump campaign has two options:  accept or boycott.

[mthomsen111]

Just now, ChouDoufu said:

the campaigns don't have any control over the debates which are run by an independent organization and can change the rules as the situation requires.

 

the trump campaign has two options:  accept or boycott.

I believe that the rules were negotiated with both campaigns. I don't know if they can change them unilaterally.

[Morch]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sorry, but when the Dems want to ban personal weapons, defund the cops, support gender fluidity, increase immigration, sympathise with rioters, and raise taxes ( Biden said in the debate he'd get rid of Trump's tax cuts ), it doesn't matter what their "policies" may be otherwise.

Faced with an overt threat to law and order, guns and religion, many in middle America will opt for more of the same, IMO.

Four more years.

 

Guess it's much easier to rile against imagined policies then to actually read political programs etc.

[ChouDoufu]

3 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Trump has zero manners, behaves like a howler monkey, and in terms of content, he had the level of an idiot. There is nothing presidential about Trump. I still don't understand how such a blender and bully could be elected as US president.

 

he was elected because enough voters in the required swing states checked "not hillary" to gain him the necessary electoral votes.

 

biden ain't no treasure, but he's the least worst option.

 

this former "not hillary" voter already mailed in his "not trump" absentee ballot.

[J Town]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Sorry, but when the Dems want to ban personal weapons, defund the cops, support gender fluidity, increase immigration, sympathise with rioters, and raise taxes ( Biden said in the debate he'd get rid of Trump's tax cuts ), it doesn't matter what their "policies" may be otherwise.

Faced with an overt threat to law and order, guns and religion, many in middle America will opt for more of the same, IMO.

Four more years.

Let's take this one by one (not that I have any hope you'll admit to or successfully debate the logic, I just have some time):

 

1. Ban personal weapons.

No. What the proponents of gun control want is to regulate them similar to a car and let the states write the laws. There is no way anyone can justify a citizen needing an assault weapon in Los Angeles, while farmers in remote areas can when protecting their animals.

 

2. Defund the cops.

No. That was a most unfortunate term slapped on thoughtlessly. Defunding actually means reallocating the funds to public health services so the police DON'T get called for cases that they AREN'T trained for and too often escalate to a deadly outcome. I used to live in a town in Washington State of about 25,000. They now have a tank - WHAT the HELL do they need a TANK for?

 

3.  Support gender fluidity.

Do you live in Thailand? A place where no one really cares what plumbing you have? THAT'S all they want. Leave people alone and if they want to get married, who cares? I have friends, a gay married couple, and they say it's not about the sex. It's about making decisions for each other. For example, if one of them is on his death bed, they want to legally give their spouse the ability to pull the plug if need be.

 

4. Increase immigration

No. They want a legal process set in place to legalize immigrants. Do we really have to go over how racist 45 has been, and how the white nationalist Stephen Miller has placed horrid anti-immigration policies in place?

 

5. Sympathize with rioters

Patently a complete lie. They support protesters, that's a constitutionally guaranteed right.

 

6. Raise taxes

Yes, if you're making over $400,000/year, they want you to pay your fair share. In light of the recent exposure of 45 and his tax dodging, I'm amused you'd even bring this up.

 

Like I said, I doubt you'll pay any real attention to these points. There may be some out there of a similar mind that can use my post as a point of reference.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, J Town said:

Let's take this one by one (not that I have any hope you'll admit to or successfully debate the logic, I just have some time):

You got that part right, at least.

Time for me to depart from World news and have supper.

Good night.

[J Town]

25 minutes ago, mthomsen111 said:

I believe that the rules were negotiated with both campaigns. I don't know if they can change them unilaterally.

From what I've read, the Commission on Presidential Debates (a bipartisan group) sets the rules and can change them at any time. 45 can either take it or leave it.