Experts raise questions about severity of Trump's COVID-19

[riclag]

1 minute ago, J Town said:

According to CDC guidelines, “In general, transport and movement of a patient with suspected or confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection outside of their room should be limited to medically essential purposes.”

 

Stroking one's ego is hardly medically essential.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/trump-takes-car-ride-ignoring-covid-infection-73424268

CDC quotes over ride abc news imop!

Standard and Transmission-Based Precautions

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/non-us-settings/overview/index.html

[J Town]

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

Appropriate precautions 

Standard and Transmission-Based Precautions

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/non-us-settings/overview/index.html

From your own reference:

 

 

Isolation is used to separate people infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, from people who are not infected.

People who are in isolation should stay home until it’s safe for them to be around others. In the home, anyone sick or infected should separate themselves from others by staying in a specific “sick room” or area and using a separate bathroom (if available).

 

Nowhere does it say it's a good idea to go for a joyride (and that's ALL that was!).

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/isolation.html

[tomazbodner]

39 minutes ago, riclag said:

"White House spokesman Judd Deere defended the outing, telling reporters that “appropriate precautions were taken in the execution of this movement to protect the president and all those supporting it.” Deere said precautions included personal protective equipment, without providing further details, and added that the trip “was cleared by the medical team as safe to do.”

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/10/04/secret-service-agents-doctors-aghast-at-trumps-drive-outside-hospital/

 

The key words in the link above is "All those who support it"besides the dr's ok!

If White House was taking appropriate precautions, Trump wouldn't have Corona now. So much for the worth of his medical advisors.

[riclag]

1 minute ago, J Town said:

From your own reference:

 

 

Isolation is used to separate people infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, from people who are not infected.

People who are in isolation should stay home until it’s safe for them to be around others. In the home, anyone sick or infected should separate themselves from others by staying in a specific “sick room” or area and using a separate bathroom (if available).

 

Nowhere does it say it's a good idea to go for a joyride (and that's ALL that was!).

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/isolation.html

time to stop with you  , As reported His dr's, as in plural  and  all others that support it!

Have a nice day

[riclag]

5 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

If White House was taking appropriate precautions, Trump wouldn't have Corona now. So much for the worth of his medical advisors.

the topic is experts raise questions, especially with going out of the hospital and greeting his supporters ! Trumps dr's approved of it !

Like I mention in a previous comment! 

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/10/04/secret-service-agents-doctors-aghast-at-trumps-drive-outside-hospital/

Edited October 5, 2020 by riclag

[ChouDoufu]

i'm positive the man in the car is trump.  can't imagine him allowing anyone else to receive the love of his adoring fans.  it's not like he was required to do anything physical like walk up a ramp or hold a glass of water steady.

 

all the photo ops have been sitting.  sign the blank paper, change clothes and take two sitting office photos 10 minutes apart.  he was wheeled to the basement, loaded into the beast, and permitted to sit and wave for a quickie around the parking lot.  obviously no public permitted to see him entering or exiting the vehicle.

 

 

Edited October 5, 2020 by ChouDoufu

[ballpoint]

42 minutes ago, riclag said:

"White House spokesman Judd Deere defended the outing, telling reporters that “appropriate precautions were taken in the execution of this movement to protect the president and all those supporting it.” Deere said precautions included personal protective equipment, without providing further details, and added that the trip “was cleared by the medical team as safe to do.”

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/10/04/secret-service-agents-doctors-aghast-at-trumps-drive-outside-hospital/

 

The key words in the link above is "All those who support it"besides the dr's ok!

You can't even correctly quote something you pasted into your own post.  The "key words" are not "All those who support it".  The quote clearly says “appropriate precautions were taken in the execution of this movement to protect the president and all those supporting it.” (my italics).  In other words, Deere claims that precautions were taken to protect the president and his support team during his little jaunt - the driver and other SS personnel, not those supporting his proposition to take a car ride.  And we only have a White House spokesman's statement to tell us the medical team cleared it.  No member of that medical team has yet come out and said that they encouraged, or cleared, this trip, but many doctors, including a number of those who work at the Walter Reed Hospital, have condemned it as unnecessarily endangering the lives of Trump's support team. 

 

This stunt reeks of the same grandstanding and flagrant disregard for others lives as the infamous upside down bible photo exploit where dozens were tear gassed so that Trump could act out his childish little fantasy.

[onthedarkside]

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[FritsSikkink]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

Here's another source lol

"White House spokesman Judd Deere defended the outing, telling reporters that “appropriate precautions were taken in the execution of this movement to protect the president and all those supporting it.” Deere said precautions included personal protective equipment, without providing further details, and added that the trip “was cleared by the medical team as safe to do.”

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/10/04/secret-service-agents-doctors-aghast-at-trumps-drive-outside-hospital/

A white House spokesman as source, what a joke, they have been lying constantly.

[Sujo]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

Here's another source lol

"White House spokesman Judd Deere defended the outing, telling reporters that “appropriate precautions were taken in the execution of this movement to protect the president and all those supporting it.” Deere said precautions included personal protective equipment, without providing further details, and added that the trip “was cleared by the medical team as safe to do.”

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/10/04/secret-service-agents-doctors-aghast-at-trumps-drive-outside-hospital/

your link does not show his dr or any dr saying it was ok.

 

All it does is show a whitehouse spokesman saying it was approved. Considering the number of lies from this admin i would like an actual quote from his dr saying this.

 

On the other hand, secret service and doctors at the hospital were aghast at the decision.

[riclag]

24 minutes ago, Sujo said:

your link does not show his dr or any dr saying it was ok.

 

All it does is show a whitehouse spokesman saying it was approved. Considering the number of lies from this admin i would like an actual quote from his dr saying this.

 

On the other hand, secret service and doctors at the hospital were aghast at the decision.

Other dr's who aren't his physician or treating him but they can give their opinion    !  His doctors haven't refuted the spokesperson quotes! So it must be true!

 

Since this story doesn't quote a active  Secret Service agent at the scene I find that highly suspected 

 

Edited October 5, 2020 by riclag

[wabothai]

Stageplay scene 3

[Dap]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

Here's another source lol

"White House spokesman Judd Deere defended the outing, telling reporters that “appropriate precautions were taken in the execution of this movement to protect the president and all those supporting it.” Deere said precautions included personal protective equipment, without providing further details, and added that the trip “was cleared by the medical team as safe to do.”

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/10/04/secret-service-agents-doctors-aghast-at-trumps-drive-outside-hospital/

More lies and you just continue to eat em' up.

 

Edited October 5, 2020 by Dap

[Paul Henry]

A strange non happening Trump claimed oxychloroquin was the greatest medicine and preventative for Covid 19 and that he had taken a course.How come he now has Covid. Will he denounce the magic tablet his Govt has bought 100's of thousands of doses of for the people. Or is it another bad Trump business decision, millions of dollars wasted.  NO blame Dr Foucci.

[J Town]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

time to stop with you  , As reported His dr's, as in plural  and  all others that support it!

Have a nice day

As you've done in the past,  you respond in one or more of the following:
(D)eny
(I)gnore
(L)ie
(D)eflect
(O)bfuscate

 

The doctors plural have admitted they spun the information - we have it on video.

 

Have a 45 day.

[J Town]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

I don't know anything about that ! I'm concentrating on the topic at hand and the comment # five ,about 

"His "drive-by" seems to have been particularly ill-advised, according to doctors".

which Mr. Deer completely debunked by saying Mr. Trumps DR's gave it the ok

They gave it the ok because they are fully aware of what happens to those who don't placate the spoiled man-baby.

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

His doctors haven't refuted the spokesperson quotes! So it must be true!

LOL, are you serious???

[Benmart]

8 hours ago, Paiman said:

The experts should go a bit further and question the severity of Covid 19.

 

Deterioration is a different matter and most likely started during his childhood.

Thank you Doctor Opinion.

[Mavideol]

4 hours ago, Mavideol said:

noted or recorded as there is a difference

guess some didn't got the joke or lacked sense of humor.... my wrong  555

[candide]

4 hours ago, polpott said:

Most world leaders employ a body double, Hitler employed several.

 

Its quite clear that the man in the car isn't Trump. Looks more like Alec Baldwin. Just a PR stunt. Knowing the drugs Trump is on, he's more likely to be flat on his back with a ventilator tube stuck down his throat.

Actually it's Baldwin who sneaked in! ????

[AgMech Cowboy]

9 hours ago, Paiman said:

The experts should go a bit further and question the severity of Covid 19.

Yes, but then you've so many people that are ready to compare it to the black death.

[asiacurious]

4 hours ago, J Town said:

According to CDC guidelines, “In general, transport and movement of a patient with suspected or confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection outside of their room should be limited to medically essential purposes.”

 

Stroking one's ego is hardly medically essential.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/trump-takes-car-ride-ignoring-covid-infection-73424268

Hmmm.....  Now I'm a bit torn  In Trump's case, stroking his ego might actually be medically essential.  

[Lacessit]

Trump put his amorality on display for the world to see. He deliberately endangered the Secret Service who are sworn to protect, for the sake of yet another shallow photo opportunity.

Perhaps Americans should be asking themselves how any other nation can put any trust in an agreement with the US, as long as he is at the helm.

[simple1]

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Trump put his amorality on display for the world to see. He deliberately endangered the Secret Service who are sworn to protect, for the sake of yet another shallow photo opportunity.

Perhaps Americans should be asking themselves how any other nation can put any trust in an agreement with the US, as long as he is at the helm.

Perhaps Americans should be asking themselves how any other nation can put any trust in an agreement with the US, as long as he is at the helm.

 

Already very clear trump is untrustworthy so far as government to government agreements are concerned - further informed by trump's prior activities in business and private life.

[Ireland32]

Another CON by Don , Sympathy Votes 

[J Town]

9 minutes ago, Ireland32 said:

Another CON by Don , Sympathy Votes 

Turns out THAT shallow ruse is backfiring.

[pawanranta]

I was reading that one Whitehouse doctor released a statement like "Trump is fit guy Trump is unbelievably fit I don't know how a man of his age can be so healthy maybe it is because he has such good genes Trump is the healthiest president ever..."   

 

Its unbelievable that Trump can even use coronavirus to his advantage. 

 

[J Town]

1 minute ago, pawanranta said:

I was reading that one Whitehouse doctor released a statement like "Trump is fit guy Trump is unbelievably fit I don't know how a man of his age can be so healthy maybe it is because he has such good genes Trump is the healthiest president ever..."   

 

Its unbelievable that Trump can even use coronavirus to his advantage. 

 

That's what a con man does, and his blind followers are referred to as "marks."

[chercheur888]

8 hours ago, PatOngo said:

The reality TV show continues!

Trump's Covid 19 positivity is Fake News and yes, the TV reality show continues.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

6 hours ago, riclag said:

I don't know anything about that ! I'm concentrating on the topic at hand and the comment # five ,about 

"His "drive-by" seems to have been particularly ill-advised, according to doctors".

which Mr. Deer completely debunked by saying Mr. Trumps DR's gave it the ok

"Debunked" as in "the guys that Trump orders around followed Trump's orders by saying the joy ride was safe (such a joke) as opposed to the director or the military hospital, who does not have to fear Dear President's repercussions, saying Trump is a selfish fool that put secret service in harm's way for a photo op and ego boost. (in other words following science and basic common sense of being quarantined with a deadly virus).

 

What is completely debunked is Riclag's integrity

Edited October 5, 2020 by Tie Dye Samurai