bluebird729 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 If someone overstays for a few years; Is it still 20,000 baht fine at Suvarnabhumi Airport upon exiting Thailand? or has it changed in any way? Someone told me that the rules for overstaying has changed. I am not sure if they were talking about the 20,000 baht fine, or if they were talking about some other aspect of the overstay rules. PS: How necessary is the Application for Departure? (attached below) If you try to leave Thailand without one, will you be refused exit? or do you just fill in a form at the airport? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, bluebird729 said: How necessary is the Application for Departure? (attached below) If you try to leave Thailand without one, will you be refused exit? or do you just fill in a form at the airport? You are confusing 2 different things. The application for extension is mentioned as a way to stay in Thailand for another year. if one is on overstay , you will be flagged at the departure booth and either pay up or go to IDC. Depending on the length of your overstay, you may be banned for a period of time. 20K is the maximum fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebird729 Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, tonray said: You are confusing 2 different things. The application for extension is mentioned as a way to stay in Thailand for another year. if one is on overstay , you will be flagged at the departure booth and either pay up or go to IDC. Depending on the length of your overstay, you may be banned for a period of time. 20K is the maximum fine Ok, so there is no special form to leave Thailand. The overstayed person just needs to go to Suvarnabhumi, Pay the 20,000 fine, and leave. There is nothing new, and nothing has changed. - Is that correct ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, bluebird729 said: Ok, so there is no special form to leave Thailand. The overstayed person just needs to go to Suvarnabhumi, Pay the 20,000 fine, and leave. There is nothing new, and nothing has changed. - Is that correct ? You will be directed to the overstay desk, paperwork signed, and an overtstay stamp put in your passport. Once you get that stamp...you can then head back to the departure booths and exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanuk711 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Isn't the amount you are banned from returning to Thailand increased ---or do I have that wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 The maximum fine is still 20,000 baht. But a overstay of more than 90 days results in a one year ban from entering the country. More than a year is 3 years. More than 3 years is 5 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Actually it has changed and now anyone with more than a 90 day overstay will not be allowed to return (or any overstay if stopped by police prior to exit). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted October 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2020 Let us know how it goes when you leave 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, tonray said: You will be directed to the overstay desk, paperwork signed, and an overtstay stamp put in your passport. Once you get that stamp...you can then head back to the departure booths and exit. You don't have to go back to the immigration booth. The guy you pay the fine to, is also an immigration officer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebird729 Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 hours ago, ubonjoe said: The maximum fine is still 20,000 baht. But a overstay of more than 90 days results in a one year ban from entering the country. More than a year is 3 years. More than 3 years is 5 years. Thank you., I also thought that nothing much had changed. But some guy I spoke to was very insistent that it had just got much stricter recently; So I wanted to check it here in ThaiVisa. Obviously the guy was wrong. Thank you ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, bluebird729 said: Thank you., I also thought that nothing much had changed. But some guy I spoke to was very insistent that it had just got much stricter recently; So I wanted to check it here in ThaiVisa. Obviously the guy was wrong. Thank you ???? Well, maybe he was talking the period of time that a person can be banned from reentry to Thailand. That change occurred in early 2016 and the way time flies (especially when you get older) maybe 4 to 5 years ago seemed recent to the guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I wonder how many years the OP has overstayed, and what his excuse is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HampiK Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: I wonder how many years the OP has overstayed, and what his excuse is? Who say the OP have an overstay? Could also be that he only was curious and wanted to know the truth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy from Kent Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, HampiK said: Could also be that he only was curious and wanted to know the truth. He's certainly come to the right place if he wants the truth. ???? 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeffersLos Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 Being blacklisted isn't any big deal. When you get home, simply legally change your name, then get a new passport and plastic surgery before returning on a Visa Exemption. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamus Yaigh Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, bluebird729 said: very insistent that it had just got much stricter recently...Obviously the guy was wrong. I would say he was not wrong. Before the changes that happened a couple of years or so ago you didn't get black listed for 10 years whereas now you can be in certain situations. That seems much stricter in my eyes. Edited October 9, 2020 by Hamus Yaigh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jackdd Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, JeffersLos said: Being blacklisted isn't any big deal. When you get home, simply legally change your name, then get a new passport and plastic surgery before returning on a Visa Exemption. Don't forget to get new fingerprints. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 52 minutes ago, HampiK said: Who say the OP have an overstay? Could also be that he only was curious and wanted to know the truth. For a 'friend' of course ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 18 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: Let us know how it goes when you leave If it goes quiet we'll presume very badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukKrueng Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, HampiK said: Who say the OP have an overstay? Could also be that he only was curious and wanted to know the truth. Or just asking for a friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, LukKrueng said: Or just asking for a friend Or just asking for an enemy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdsa Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I was told an anecdotal reports that ppl are forced to pay 20'000 thb plus 50 extra baht for every overstayed day, e.g. one my friend paid 27500 when departed from Samui several years ago. Could be a local "fine" though with only 20k being official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, JeffersLos said: Being blacklisted isn't any big deal. When you get home, simply legally change your name, then get a new passport and plastic surgery before returning on a Visa Exemption. Just change your passport as we all look the same to them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 From website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, JeffersLos said: Being blacklisted isn't any big deal. When you get home, simply legally change your name, then get a new passport and plastic surgery before returning on a Visa Exemption. In this COVID world of the new normal above would be the "easy" part; the hard part would then trying to get a COE to reenter Thailand--heck, even the Thai govt is having a heck of time figuring out their own COE rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
userabcd Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, jackdd said: Don't forget to get new fingerprints. Believe it is quite difficult, if not impossible, to change ones fingerprints. Edited October 9, 2020 by userabcd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, userabcd said: Believe it is quite difficult if not impossible to change ones fingerprints. You'd have to believe the fingerprint scanners were for more than show. I'm not convinced Immigration has any working equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 6 hours ago, fdsa said: I was told an anecdotal reports that ppl are forced to pay 20'000 thb plus 50 extra baht for every overstayed day, e.g. one my friend paid 27500 when departed from Samui several years ago. Could be a local "fine" though with only 20k being official. Had a few months overstay in samui and went to Singapore to get a new visa . Guy at airport looked at passport and said you stay long time , I said yes I stay with my wife and own property here . He done some paperwork and asked me to sign a receipt for the 20,000bht and gave me back the passport . Asked when I return and I said about three days , he didn’t bat an eyelid and said thank you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo0 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 8 hours ago, JeffersLos said: Being blacklisted isn't any big deal. When you get home, simply legally change your name, then get a new passport and plastic surgery before returning on a Visa Exemption. Easier than STV then ! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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