New condo buyers offered visa and Elite Card but stranded expats are left out in the cold

[Elkski]

Maybe best I dont say the things my mind thinks sometimes.   

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[tomauasia]

9 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Pretty clear that they don't want foreigners coming in at the moment and that is both justifiable and understandable given current circumstances and public opinion.

 

When will these people learn that they are only temporary visitors for purposes other than tourism and plan accordingly? 

 

 

LOL <deleted> fake public polls. I have 4 Thai wealthy business owners on my messenger begging these pensioners to open. There was no public nothing. Just like there were no booked tourists from virus land. Sorry China land.

[Sametboy2019]

I don't get it. Why have a 14 day quarantine if people who are willing to do it are not allowed to enter it?

Isn't the quarantine supposed to catch any people who have it and if they do the insurance they took out will cover the costs of possible hospitalisation.

 

[Wake Up]

9 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

"It sucks to be on the outside looking in"  That's a homeless hungry person looking in a restaurant window.  I am guessing here but now the folks in Britain who want to come back have the same feeling....just not necessarily hungry! ????  

Problem for Thailand is most of us “stuck” outside are losing our  “hunger for Thailand” We miss Thailand but the longer this goes on and the more the Thailand government talks the more we are considering other countries. I know I am. Almost bought a new truck in February 2020 in Bangkok. I got lucky and now I don’t trust Thailand to buy anything there ever.
Those of us on the outside have plenty of money to live and choices. For the fortunate ones who don’t have Thai wives and children and families, the Thailand government is causing “us” to say forget Thailand -  lots of room on this planet to choose where you want to live and spend your money. 
I think expats that had to exit Thailand for work or family member death or other good reason should of course be allowed to return to their lives in Bangkok. So Thailand can do what it chooses, and those choices have consequences. I doubt a lot of people like me will be going back to Thailand except for a holiday and we will choose another country to live in. 

[Steve Vincent]

Special compensation if you spend 10million baht 250k sterling ???????? who's got that amount of money these days ? especially in today’s climate. I’ve been back and forth Thailand throughout the last 20yrs spending vast amounts of money like other foreign nationals who love the country,. I’ve a missus and children who i support ‘ house ‘ land & financial obligations yet I’m not considered a valuable asset,it’s people like me and others who feel undervalued and unwanted ‘ returned home in June due family crisis and cannot return due travel restrictions that have been it into place,speak with my family regular via web chat ‘ yet cannot be their in person and it hurts when my son keep asking when papa will return Stay safe people ????

[Dazauz]

10 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Pretty clear that they don't want foreigners coming in at the moment and that is both justifiable and understandable given current circumstances and public opinion.

 

When will these people learn that they are only temporary visitors for purposes other than tourism and plan accordingly? 

 

 

Can't agree testing at the airport and the 14 days at home is all that should be required for residents wanting to return home. 

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

1 hour ago, Howiehotspur said:

I enquired that question yesterday in my local Bangkok bank , and was told you can only close your account or transfer money from within Thailand

You touched a great point here. very easy to send money to thailand on line, but not so

easy to send out. First, you cannot do it if you do not have a work permit, even if it is

your money (a regulation that was made out of fear that foreigners will steal so called thai money).

 

second, you might not be able to send your money out of thailand even if you are in thailand, as

the bank might come with new unexpected demands (happaned to me few times, once, i could

make the transfer, second time the banker had a bad hair day and asked for different documents

for the same kind of transfer).

 

third, as we can see now, you might get your visa revoked / cancelled and might be forced out

of thailand and than there is no way you can get your money from the bank. you might use

your ATM card if you did not lose , but it will take long long time to withdraw

3.7 million baht, if it is legal at all, and than you will get it all in cash

and out of the banking system.

 

so here you see, thailand is not a safe place for your money, even if it is just cash

sitting in the bank !!!

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

just released - hidden camera catches farang stranded abroad in thai embassy

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

16 minutes ago, Steve Vincent said:

Special compensation if you spend 10million baht 250k sterling ???????? who's got that amount of money these days ? especially in today’s climate. I’ve been back and forth Thailand throughout the last 20yrs spending vast amounts of money like other foreign nationals who love the country,. I’ve a missus and children who i support ‘ house ‘ land & financial obligations yet I’m not considered a valuable asset,it’s people like me and others who feel undervalued and unwanted ‘ returned home in June due family crisis and cannot return due travel restrictions that have been it into place,speak with my family regular via web chat ‘ yet cannot be their in person and it hurts when my son keep asking when papa will return Stay safe people ????

try to make lemonde out of this lemon situation.

at last you can have time for yourself far away from your family and from all

those somtam people.

try to get a british style oil massage, or go to a non asian gogo bar.

the world is round and big and aventually all will get back to normal.

[salsajapan]

12 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

You touched a great point here. very easy to send money to thailand on line, but not so

easy to send out. First, you cannot do it if you do not have a work permit, even if it is

your money (a regulation that was made out of fear that foreigners will steal so called thai money).

 

second, you might not be able to send your money out of thailand even if you are in thailand, as

the bank might come with new unexpected demands (happaned to me few times, once, i could

make the transfer, second time the banker had a bad hair day and asked for different documents

for the same kind of transfer).

 

third, as we can see now, you might get your visa revoked / cancelled and might be forced out

of thailand and than there is no way you can get your money from the bank. you might use

your ATM card if you did not lose , but it will take long long time to withdraw

3.7 million baht, if it is legal at all, and than you will get it all in cash

and out of the banking system.

 

so here you see, thailand is not a safe place for your money, even if it is just cash

sitting in the bank !!!

 

Wrong, just use deemoney...

 

 

[PEE TEE]

Seems all one sided What about those who have bought property in their Thai partners name and then paid land tax for a long term lease. i believe the lease overrides The title deeds   

[ehgnyc]

1 hour ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

You touched a great point here. very easy to send money to thailand on line, but not so

easy to send out. First, you cannot do it if you do not have a work permit, even if it is

your money (a regulation that was made out of fear that foreigners will steal so called thai money).

 

second, you might not be able to send your money out of thailand even if you are in thailand, as

the bank might come with new unexpected demands (happaned to me few times, once, i could

make the transfer, second time the banker had a bad hair day and asked for different documents

for the same kind of transfer).

 

third, as we can see now, you might get your visa revoked / cancelled and might be forced out

of thailand and than there is no way you can get your money from the bank. you might use

your ATM card if you did not lose , but it will take long long time to withdraw

3.7 million baht, if it is legal at all, and than you will get it all in cash

and out of the banking system.

 

so here you see, thailand is not a safe place for your money, even if it is just cash

sitting in the bank !!!

Funny, when I stated the fear of bringing in money for a retirement visa here, many posters told me I was crazy to think I wouldn't be able to get the money out of the country when I wanted to. I also told the story that there are many business owners on Samui who had to leave and couldn't get their money out. Posters told me that was absurd. Where are they now?

Edited October 15, 2020 by ehgnyc

[captpkapoor]

We bought a really lux condo in Bkk for 15 million 7 years back. Both my wife and I areon Non-O retirement extension of stays, with valid re-entry multi entry until Feb 2021. We returned to India in mid Feb for a family wedding. Been in India ever since. No answers from the Thai embassy in New Delhi. Condo lying locked up, car sitting in the parking. Had rented out our main residence in Delhi coz we didn't need it. Now staying with our kids in their rather small apartment. Let them not open to tourists, but let people like us return to our locked homes.

[Albert Zweistein]

12 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Pretty clear that they don't want foreigners coming in at the moment and that is both justifiable and understandable given current circumstances and public opinion.

 

When will these people learn that they are only temporary visitors for purposes other than tourism and plan accordingly? 

 

 

To me it seems that these people are milk cows to the Thai.

[DB58]

13 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Who buys property to live in, in a country where they have no right to reside?  ????

 

 

There are few “rights” left in the world, but I am sure that they were granted the privilege of residency. But there’s the problem between “rights” and “privilege” one is revocable one isn’t.

 

Never give up a right and accept a privilege no matter how much icings it’s covered with!

[P100]

Mee too. Condo, bank account and one year visa. But no entry. Why should a farang ever again invest in Thailand when Thai authorities leave them stranded abroad regardless of his property and life. Inhumane and  ignorant towards those who put their life savings into Thai economy. Now we can see that we can lose our investments at any time!

 

Will I ever buy a second property in Thailand? Plan just abandoned. Too unsafe. I don^t trust them any more. Ever again!

[flightcrew]

As a UK citizen, I am baffled by people investing millions of baht and making home in a foreign country, whats wrong with investing in your own country where you may have some rights! I have seen a destitute American gentleman in Pattaya, who was contemplating suicide because things have gone to pot. Please remember Thailand is not our home, never was and never will be. Thailand belongs to the good people of Thailand, they are entitled to do what they like and do, the politics are complex. Some Thai people here in the UK are saving lives daily in the NHS yet they have to go through many hurdles, prejudice and racism.  No country in the world is perfect, but at least in your own country you are protected by your own kinsman and laws. By all means have a good long retirement holiday anywhere in the world but do not make investments in a country where you may lose all of it and more.

[Visarghhhh]

I checked other countries like Japan, Vietnam and New Zealand, and they are also closed to outsiders... so Thailand is no worse.  On the other hand, they could open up to O and O-As and other visa types as long as they do the ASQ thing and basically prove that they don't have Covid and will pay for the cost.  It's just a case of handling the numbers with what resources are available.

[Destiny1990]

Seems they are interested  about new investors and no care for the persons who have invested already. 

[Strongheart]

18 hours ago, Kadilo said:

“Thaivisa plans to take their concerns forward to the Thai authorities to highlight the injustice for those who have invested heavily both financially and personally in Thailand“

A step in the right direction.  

Good luck with that.

[Fex Bluse]

18 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Who buys property to live in, in a country where they have no right to reside?  ????

 

 

Average bloke who, whilst previously able to think clearly, since finding a young fit brown girl to play around and bounce up and down on his reproductive organ is no longer able to understand action and consequence. 

 

 

[Fex Bluse]

3 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Seems they are interested  about new investors and no care for the persons who have invested already. 

No surprising to anyone who has lived in any of the various Chinese countries, including Thailand. 

[anicon]

..If you're tested negative before you re-enter Thailand & tested again negative when you enter Thailand plus go into quarantine, <deleted> is the problem letting ex-pats re-entering if they have financial interests here??

[TERMINATOR3AB]

Sorry  the Gov  do not care about  the  millions  of Baht already spent in Thailand  ..too bad mate  

They want  new  millions  spent  for  economy now  

So these  offers  of  special  investment Visa  are on the table

However  very few  investers  will  take up these  offers  Thaialnd  has had its  day 

The world   now knows Thailand is not  the Thailand  of old ....Now  seems very   racist  and  very  corrupt   Gov....people  have  lost faith  and interest in the  new  Thailand  also  it is  too close  to  China  now  which  is not  popular   world  wide 

No longer  the land of smiles  but seems  the  Gov  is a land  of dreamers

Good Luck  Thailand

[brianthainess]

Maybe if those stuck in UK for example, could organize a demonstration outside the London Thai embassy and put it on face book, then little Tu Tu would have to do something, to try and save his face. It could even be a worldwide one to highlight how unfair Thailand is treating these expats.

[NoshowJones]

21 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Was knowing your visa is temporary for a year and you have to report every 90 days to disclose your whereabouts not evidence enough?

No, when I first came here. there was no compulsary 90 day report[ng, just a nice pleasant day out to the border every 90 days, I sure feel cheated now, being treated like a criminal with this ridiculous 90 day reporting.

[Peterw42]

1 minute ago, possum1931 said:

No, when I first came here. there was no compulsary 90 day report[ng, just a nice pleasant day out to the border every 90 days, I sure feel cheated now, being treated like a criminal with this ridiculous 90 day reporting.

How long ago was no 90 day reporting ?

 

[NoshowJones]

21 hours ago, Kadilo said:

If not financially, then this image projected that foreigners are not important will bite them from all angles once they want to attract back tourism. Add the current demos in the mix and Thailand’s image is not looking so good. 

How can it be anything else with a bunch of tinpot soldiers trying to run the country?

[NoshowJones]

4 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

How long ago was no 90 day reporting ?

 

I said no "compulsary" 90 day reporting. When I first came here to stay in 2005, there were some retirees doing the 90 day border run, and some with the money in the bank and doing the 90 day reporting.

[micmichd]

21 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Who buys property to live in, in a country where they have no right to reside?  ????

 

 

Farangs in Asia do. I've seen many of them here who wanted Asian soil. They're all back in Farangistan.