Air purifier/air filter recommendations?

[Surelynot]

Have a small condo...studio layout....40m².......central Bangkok.

 

Looking out I can see the air quality rapidly deteriorating and, it might be my imagination,  feel I can smell the air and my chest getting tighter.

 

I am looking for recommendations for what to do/what to purchase to make the air in our studio as healthy as possible.

 

Thanks in advance for those kind enough to reply.

[Grumpy one]

16 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Have a small condo...studio layout....40m².......central Bangkok.

 

Looking out I can see the air quality rapidly deteriorating and, it might be my imagination,  feel I can smell the air and my chest getting tighter.

 

I am looking for recommendations for what to do/what to purchase to make the air in our studio as healthy as possible.

 

Thanks in advance for those kind enough to reply.

Moving to the sea shore has to be a winner

[Surelynot]

Just now, Grumpy one said:

Moving to the sea shore has to be a winner

Good point....but how come Hua Hin air quality is equally bad?

[Grumpy one]

1 minute ago, Surelynot said:

Good point....but how come Hua Hin air quality is equally bad?

I'm in Cha Am and the air here is good enough for my old lungs.

In BKK I cough and sneeze all the time

[Peterw42]

18 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Have a small condo...studio layout....40m².......central Bangkok.

 

Looking out I can see the air quality rapidly deteriorating and, it might be my imagination,  feel I can smell the air and my chest getting tighter.

 

I am looking for recommendations for what to do/what to purchase to make the air in our studio as healthy as possible.

 

Thanks in advance for those kind enough to reply.

Your air conditioner, especially newer ones that are kept clean, filter the internal air to an extent.

Running the air con (even if just the fan) and regularly cleaning the filters can help.

 

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Grumpy one said:

I'm in Cha Am and the air here is good enough for my old lungs.

In BKK I cough and sneeze all the time

Got 6 wives on the go in Bangkok (take Sunday's off)...so reluctant to move.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Peterw42 said:

Your air conditioner, especially newer ones that are kept clean, filter the internal air to an extent.

Running the air con (even if just the fan) and regularly cleaning the filters can help.

 

Very interesting...that had not occurred to me......thanks for that

[Grumpy one]

Just now, Surelynot said:

Got 6 wives on the go in Bangkok (take Sunday's off)...so reluctant to move.

I admire you sir, but surely you could squeeze in the odd Sunday workout 

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, Grumpy one said:

I admire you sir, but surely you could squeeze in the odd Sunday workout 

Now you've got me thinking......

[Barnabe]

The Xiaomi ones you can get in Lazada are good and cheap. Get the 3C or 3H, they’re under 4K baht.

[4MyEgo]

42 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

I am looking for recommendations for what to do/what to purchase to make the air in our studio as healthy as possible.

It all depends on what you want and what your budget is. I did a lot of research on this a few years back and went over the top in my investment, no regrets.

 

Our main bedroom is 48 square metres so I wanted something that would fire up pretty quick and take effect, our house is 320 square metres, so I also wanted something to be able to wheel it to other rooms if needed, sort of like a portable air conditioner, but as in a portable air purifier, e.g. wheeling into the girls rooms 20 to 30 square metres to provide clean filtered air for an hour or two, then back to ours for when we are going to sleep.

 

Like I said, no regrets but it all depends on your budget and to me it is a long term investment, sort of like the Rolex in watches, which I cannot afford, even if I could, I wouldn't but when it comes to health, sure can ????

 

If you do decide to go with this one, DO NOT buy it online as the warranty will not be covered, I purchased mine in Thailand, delivered to my door with insurance included.

 

https://www.iqair.com/th-en/room-air-purifiers/healthpro-series

Edited October 31, 2020 by 4MyEgo

[Surelynot]

18 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Your air conditioner, especially newer ones that are kept clean, filter the internal air to an extent.

Running the air con (even if just the fan) and regularly cleaning the filters can help.

 

Giving that a try now......just need to check the cleanliness/replacement of the air filters with the landlord...cheers.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, 4MyEgo said:

It all depends on what you want and what your budget is. I did a lot of research on this a few years back and went over the top in my investment, no regrets.

 

Our main bedroom is 48 square metres so I wanted something that would fire up pretty quick and take effect, our house is 320 square metres, so I also wanted something to be able to wheel it to other rooms if needed, sort of like a portable air conditioner, but as in a portable air purifier, e.g. wheeling into the girls rooms 20 to 30 square metres to provide clean filtered air for an hour or two, then back to ours for when we are going to sleep.

 

Like I no regrets but it all depends on your budget and to me it is a long term investment.

 

If you do decide to go with this one, DO NOT buy it online as the warranty will not be covered, I purchased mine in Thailand, delivered to my door with insurance included.

 

https://www.iqair.com/th-en/room-air-purifiers/healthpro-series

Brilliant thanks...will look into this as well.

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

It all depends on what you want and what your budget is. I did a lot of research on this a few years back and went over the top in my investment, no regrets.

 

Our main bedroom is 48 square metres so I wanted something that would fire up pretty quick and take effect, our house is 320 square metres, so I also wanted something to be able to wheel it to other rooms if needed, sort of like a portable air conditioner, but as in a portable air purifier, e.g. wheeling into the girls rooms 20 to 30 square metres to provide clean filtered air for an hour or two, then back to ours for when we are going to sleep.

 

Like I no regrets but it all depends on your budget and to me it is a long term investment.

 

If you do decide to go with this one, DO NOT buy it online as the warranty will not be covered, I purchased mine in Thailand, delivered to my door with insurance included.

 

https://www.iqair.com/th-en/room-air-purifiers/healthpro-series

Which one did you go for?....There seems to be quite a range

[Barnabe]

Those IQ Pro are tip top, but yeah a massive investment.

 

In my 80 sqm condo I have an older Xiaomi 2S for my office and a new Xiaomi Pro for the rest, works pretty well and total cost under 10k.

I monitor the air quality independently with a Thai made Air Tricorder (nifty gadget), and while the Xiaomi seems to always show less than it really is, both combined make a great job overall of cleaning the air.

 

IQ Pro is definitely better, but these days Xiaomi are so good I'm not sure they're worth the extra cost.

 

Unrelated, but your post made me miss single life...................

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Barnabe said:

Unrelated, but your post made me miss single life...................

5555...Burning the candle at both ends at the moment....do have a 'real' wife.....it can only last so long...bit nerve wracking at times

Edited October 31, 2020 by Surelynot

[Barnabe]

Here’s an example of what I mean, Xiaomi always shows less.

 

If I was moving to a bigger house, I think I would buy several Xiaomi ones for the price of an IQ Air.

 

 

[4MyEgo]

3 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Which one did you go for?....There seems to be quite a range

The healthpro 250 

 

I know a lot of people here will say it's over the top, but hey, as I said, depends on your budget and what you want to get out of a purifier, so I went for the Ferrari with the horsepower, and haven't had to change the filters in 3 years.

 

When the burning season here is happening, the smoke is everywhere, especially at night, and nothing worse than feeling tight in the chest, especially when you have had a heart attack a decade ago, this thing just makes the air smell so crystal clear, even my wife and the kids notice the difference and the sleep quality is much better as well, especially when getting older, so the air does have a lot to do with your health.

[Barnabe]

How come the Thais don't complain about this? It feels like you're smoking 2 packs a day...

[Kelsall]

IQ Air HealthPro 250, the Cadillac of air purifiers

 

If you want to go budget, the Xioami

 

I have both, IQ Air for the large bedroom, Xioami for the livng room.

Edited October 31, 2020 by Kelsall

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, Barnabe said:

How come the Thais don't complain about this? It feels like you're smoking 2 packs a day...

A week in a village in Isan explains all.....they are brought up in smoke......charcoal for cooking.....fires to get rid of rubbish...fires to keep the dogs warm.....then add in rice and sugar cane burning.......I stuck it out for 4 months then moved to Bangkok for the better air quality....5555

[NCC1701A]

43 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Got 6 wives on the go in Bangkok (take Sunday's off)...so reluctant to move.

it is exhausting.  

 

exhausting. see what i did there? 

 

because you know, this is about air purifiers. 

 

I will be looking into the IQ Pro.

[Sheryl]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

Giving that a try now......just need to check the cleanliness/replacement of the air filters with the landlord...cheers.

Easy to clean them yourself.

 

Besides the filters, though, the units themselves need a good cleaning about every 6 months and=you need technicians to come and do that (where I live costs 600 baht a unit, Bangkok area might be a bot more. Shops that sell a/c can usually send someone). You can try asking landlord to pay but if not well worth doing yourself.

 

In addition to improving air quality it will make the a/c run better and save on electricity.

[Surelynot]

9 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Easy to clean them yourself.

 

Besides the filters, though, the units themselves need a good cleaning about every 6 months and=you need technicians to come and do that (where I live costs 600 baht a unit, Bangkok area might be a bot more. Shops that sell a/c can usually send someone). You can try asking landlord to pay but if not well worth doing yourself.

 

In addition to improving air quality it will make the a/c run better and save on electricity.

Thanks for that...just been having a poke at the panels to see what I can do.....will try the landlord first....cheers.

[stubuzz]

What are the costs for replacement filters?

 

[lopburi3]

1.  Unless a new AC with dedicated HEPA type filtration cleaning normal filters is not going to make much if any difference in air quality - they filter very little - but yes they should be cleaned and the units also to keep efficiency up and prevent blockage in coils.

2.  HEPA type filters can and do work well.  Just remember you need to replace filters every few months so make d a m sure you can get replacements in the long term.  Often those sold in stores that sell unit just tell people no problem for filters - but never stock them and have no way to order.

3.  Single room size should be under 5k for good units.  Basically it is the filter and a fan to provide air flow through it.  From there you can ion generators and computers but the filter is key.

4.  I have used Hatari as they are made in Thailand and filters have always been available - provides good filtration and run 24 hours a day 365 days a year and they just keep working.  Change filter every six months.  Check filtration on worst days and always 10 or below (good range).

[rumak]

4 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

I have used Hatari as they are made in Thailand and filters have always been available - provides good filtration and run 24 hours a day 365 days a year and they just keep working.  Change filter every six months. 

 

i like Hatari as well........   for same reasons         

[eljaybe]

On 10/31/2020 at 9:59 AM, Surelynot said:

Looking out I can see the air quality rapidly deteriorating and, it might be my imagination,  feel I can smell the air and my chest getting tighter.

 

I am looking for recommendations for what to do/what to purchase to make the air in our studio as healthy as possible.

I have been living in Thailand for 11 years and I am not sure if its my age, (im 56 now), or the air quality that has been making me so short of breath, but in recent years i have been feeling it.

Last year, in fact November 2019 to about March of this, I felt like I had aged by 10+ years, poor sleep tight chest and bad throat were just some of my issues.

I live in Chonburi which is by no means the worst area for air pollution in Thailand. Bangkok is a no go area during pollution season for me now.

After seeing my pain last year a Swedish friend let me borrow a lightAir IonFlow air purifier for a week trial, (they are made in Sweden).

I did a lot of research and in the end decided to give it a go.

As they are bit more expensive than most standard HEPA air purifiers I didn't want to fork out 15K for something that wouldn't help. I think it was aboout 3 days later I payed for the one I had borrowed, and brought another. a few days and I felt so much better.

They don't work like normal filter type purifiers, they do something to the particles in the air and it just cleans it, simple to use just turn on or off, and no moving parts so no noise and no filters to replace. (50M coverage)

The IonFlow model has had 7 years of scientific reports to back their impressive claims and for me it works like a dream. Half a dozen of my friends also now have them.

Apparently they are the only ionizer purifiers that don't produce ozone, and they have been proven to stop virus, they keep the pollution under control, so when im at home Im fine.

Look up "Lightair ionflow" I think they are on Lazada now? They also have a website..

Edited November 2, 2020 by eljaybe
grammar

[motdaeng]

On 10/31/2020 at 10:50 AM, Barnabe said:

Here’s an example of what I mean, Xiaomi always shows less.

 

If I was moving to a bigger house, I think I would buy several Xiaomi ones for the price of an IQ Air.

 

 

- sorry but your tricorder works correct ...

- the xiaomi shows you pm2.5 005 µg/m3 ...

- the air tricorder shows you (big display) the pm2.5 as AQI but also µg/m3 (on the left side)

- look at the upper left coner of the triconer: pm2.5 004 µg/m3

- pm2.5 as µg/m3 and AQI are not the same ... just google it ...

[lopburi3]

16 hours ago, eljaybe said:

They don't work like normal filter type purifiers, they do something to the particles in the air and it just cleans it, simple to use just turn on or off, and no moving parts so no noise and no filters to replace. (50M coverage)

It is called negative ion generator and has been around for decades and very controversial - with or without ozone.  They indeed remove particles from the air and attach them to walls and everywhere else in the room.  Would not use without active filtration.