Trump files new election challenge, Georgia announces recount

[Tchooptip]

6 hours ago, fishtank said:

The prat don't like losing does he?

Even when the result is clear and obvious.

Just making himself look a bigger idiot than he already is.

Just making himself look a bigger idiot than he already is....IMPOSSIBLE!

I understand the republicans are legitimately deceived they have lost, that's one thing, but following D. Trump in his madness, is another thing, because the results of this election are clear and irrefutable. And admitting that there are some legitimate modifications it will never reverse the result, The bad faith of this man would make me ashamed if I was a republican, but I'm not even a US citizen... which shouldn't forbid me to give my opinion by the way 

[stevenl]

18 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

This election is not about Biden or Trump it's about the Dems. changing the whole system. I won't say any more on this subject as I have been taking too many holidays lately.

Reasoned, well documented arguments will not lead to suspensions, but conspiracy theories could.

[xylophone]

8 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

What a circus!

What did they expect when they elected a clown!

[Tchooptip]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

A second Trump term in 2024? Haven't Americans had enough of being lied to?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

In 2024, he will be not far 79 years old ????

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

So during those two weeks (we're a little over 1 week with Trump) Ms Abrams was pilloried and vilified by the media and Democrat Party for not immediately conceding right? What the left never understands is what goes around comes around...calling Trump and illegitimate president put in office by Putin for 4 years will now redound to Biden by Republicans.

 

She had credible, evidence based grievances... Trump has little to none. That's the difference.

 

And, if you keep wanting to use the Abrams-Kemp race as your yardstick, then Trump should be on course to non-concede concede within the next week.  Don't really see that happening anytime soon.

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

As has been repeatedly noted the issue was different. Kemp was running for governor while he was Secretary of State. He refused to resign but rather continued to make electoral decisions that favored him. His behavior was clearly unethical.

Let's face it placeholder, doesn't matter how many times you explain things to some of these supporters, it still doesn't sink in, or if it does, it sinks into a muddy morass of deadness.

 

I've lost count of the amount of times posters like you have explained things (in a simple way) to these people, but even in a simple way, they still don't get it.

 

Not a lot of hope for them I'm afraid, or for their cult leader.

 

[xylophone]

24 minutes ago, Silurian said:

Looks like the Arizona election result will be universally called for Biden. The Decision Desk just called it for Biden.

 

Biden is on the cusp of securing Arizona’s 11 electoral votes

Trump narrowed Biden’s lead to about 11,600, but he’ll need to secure 74% of nearly 25,000 votes left uncounted to secure the state’s 11 electoral votes.

 

And the good news is:- Arizona’s recount law is specific. It gets automatically triggered if Trump pulls within 200 votes. There is no other path to a recount in the state.

 

Congratulations to President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris.

[onthedarkside]

A post implying election irregularities -- without any credible sourcing or substantiation -- has been removed.

 

[BaronVonBangkok]

A recount is a good idea. The Dems shouldn’t mind if it’s all above board. 

[Throatwobbler]

55 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

This election is not about Biden or Trump it's about the Dems. changing the whole system. I won't say any more on this subject as I have been taking too many holidays lately.

I am intrigued. How did they change the system? The fact that you won’t say more makes me think this is in the realm of fantasy.

[candide]

6 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Georgia is doing the right thing! All the blue states that were ahead in the count should do the same thing, hand -count. After all if there is no corruption what do you have to hide?

Currently, the States you have in mind are not particularly blue. They usually have a GOP governor or/and GOP lawmakers

[RJRS1301]

Just wondering who ays for these recounts if they are proven the original one with a reasonable margin of error, but did make difference to the outcome?

Does the state concerned foot the bill,  or the person/party which requested the recount that made no difference to the outcome?

 

[Silurian]

28 minutes ago, BaronVonBangkok said:

A recount is a good idea. The Dems shouldn’t mind if it’s all above board. 

 

Wow, what a generic non-detailed statement. A recount where, which state, what election and for what reason?

 

I think Donald conceding is a "good idea". Republicans shouldn't mind since Biden has been declared the winner.

 

[RJRS1301]

51 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Let's face it placeholder, doesn't matter how many times you explain things to some of these supporters, it still doesn't sink in, or if it does, it sinks into a muddy morass of deadness.

 

I've lost count of the amount of times posters like you have explained things (in a simple way) to these people, but even in a simple way, they still don't get it.

 

Not a lot of hope for them I'm afraid, or for their cult leader.

 

You are surely not expecting to understand any more complex than beyond DJT says "we was robbed"

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[Silurian]

2 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Just wondering who ays for these recounts if they are proven the original one with a reasonable margin of error, but did make difference to the outcome?

Does the state concerned foot the bill,  or the person/party which requested the recount that made no difference to the outcome?

 

 

The cost depends on the state and who is asking for the recount. In Georgia, the state will pay for the recount. In Wisconsin, Donald will have to pay (up front).

 

This information can be found on the Internet.

[BaronVonBangkok]

1 minute ago, Silurian said:

 

Wow, what a generic non-detailed statement. A recount where, which state, what election and for what reason?

 

I think Donald conceding is a "good idea". Republicans shouldn't mind since Biden has been declared the winner.

 

Obviously in the close states where there was a massive last minute swing. What are you scared of?

 

The media don’t get to decide the winner.

[candide]

3 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Just wondering who ays for these recounts if they are proven the original one with a reasonable margin of error, but did make difference to the outcome?

Does the state concerned foot the bill,  or the person/party which requested the recount that made no difference to the outcome?

 

In most cases, when it doesn't make difference to the outcome, the party/person who requested the recount has to pay for it.

[Silurian]

Just now, BaronVonBangkok said:

Obviously in the close states where there was a massive last minute swing. What are you scared of?

 

The media don’t get to decide the winner.

 

Again, you spout generalities without any specific details of where and why. What are you afraid of by giving out exact states and for what reasons? Have you even done any research on recounts and the elections other than coming on here with generic rants?

 

[candide]

1 minute ago, BaronVonBangkok said:

Obviously in the close states where there was a massive last minute swing. What are you scared of?

 

The media don’t get to decide the winner.

You should get more information on why there has been such a "swing" before posting.

[RJRS1301]

5 minutes ago, candide said:

In most cases, when it doesn't make difference to the outcome, the party/person who requested the recount has to pay for it.

Thanks

[PatOngo]

All I can say is the self professed leaders of the free world are looking pretty bloody stupid right now!

[BaronVonBangkok]

1 minute ago, Silurian said:

 

Wisconsin is on track for a recount. Pennsylvania and Arizona will mostly likely not have recounts due to their specific state recount rules. Do some research first before posting. Oh, and just to give you another one, Georgia will have a recount. 

 

Attacking me personally just shows exactly who you are. I guess when you have no specific facts, you attack the poster. Nice.

 

FYI - A recount will most likely not change any outcome. I am not scared of them. But what ever lets you cling to hope, go for it.

I didn’t say they will have recounts I said they should.

 

I wasn’t attacking you either, I was saying how you are coming across.

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17 minutes ago, BaronVonBangkok said:

Obviously in the close states where there was a massive last minute swing. What are you scared of?

 

The media don’t get to decide the winner.

Actually the reason there were massive last swing votes in most cases was because Republicans refused to change election laws to allow mail-in ballots to be counted in advance. Democrats pressed for that to be done. Now Republicans are using that to make groundless allegations like yours to question the vote totals.

[wwest5829]

6 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Georgia is doing the right thing! All the blue states that were ahead in the count should do the same thing, hand -count. After all if there is no corruption what do you have to hide?

Thanks but there are laws to be followed not just conspiracy theories or tantrums by the loser ...

[BaronVonBangkok]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Actually the reason there were massive last swing votes in most cases was because Republicans refused to change election laws to allow mail-in ballots to be counted in advance. Democrats pressed for that to be done. Now Republicans are using that to make groundless allegations like yours to question the vote totals.

Please let me know what groundless allegation I have made.
 

I said they should recount the close ones. I made no allegation. You made that bit up.

[onthedarkside]

Enough of the personal comments back and forth here...  Comment on the topic, not each other.

 

Also, a post linking to several partisan non-news, media social media sites has been removed, as those are not allowed under forum rules.
 

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1 minute ago, BaronVonBangkok said:

Please let me know what groundless allegation I have made.
 

I said they should recount the close ones. I made no allegation. You made that bit up.

You wrote "obviously in the case where there was a last minute swing". We know why there were massive last minute swings. In Pennsylvania for example almost 3 times as many Democrats as Republicans asked for mail-in ballots. If the Pennsylvania Republicans had allowed those votes to be counted in advance as many other states do and as the Democrats pushed for, the swing would have gone in a red direction, or as it's popularly called, a red shift. And the counting would have been over that night.

[BaronVonBangkok]

Just now, placeholder said:

You wrote "obviously in the case where there was a last minute swing". We know why there were massive last minute swings. In Pennsylvania for example almost 3 times as many Democrats as Republicans asked for mail-in ballots. If the Pennsylvania Republicans had allowed those votes to be counted in advance as many other states do and as the Democrats pushed for, the swing would have gone in a red direction, or as it's popularly called, a red shift. And the counting would have been over that night.

Possibly. I still think it’s worth a recount to make sure there were no honest mistakes.

 

so anyway what was my groundless allegation?

 

you know when you don’t accuse someone of anything and they get really agitated and tell you to stop accusing them? What do you think?

[Dart12]

All I know is the betting lines are still open as to who BECOMES president because it's not official until legally so. 

As somoene else said, media REPORTING a win and it being legally complete and OFFICIAL  are two different things.

Trumps odds have gone from 20-1 to 9-1 in the last 3 days FYI. 
But  Bidens odds to win are still better.

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by Dart12

[puck2]

Trump has an absolutely disgusting personality, shown not only here in this case.

 

That this slouch has gotten so many votes is for me the ugly side of America. An abhorrent character with the knowledge of a child was "liked" / supported by nearly half of the electorate. Uncredible and at the same time telling us a lot of the intelligence of those people.