EU leaders deadlocked over recovery plan after Hungary, Poland veto

[pacovl46]

8 hours ago, transam said:

The UK declared war with Germany to protect freedom, our country is like that ....FREEDOM from tyranny and MURDER....The rest of your post is......

 

Listen, if you want to keep your head in the sand then be my guest, but what I’ve posted is the naked truth. Just google it! 
 

By the way, the real reason England declared war on Germany was because they wanted their reparation payments from WWI, which Germany refused to pay. If they had not done that England most likely would still quite a few of the colonies they had before WWII! 

Edited November 23, 2020 by pacovl46

[pacovl46]

7 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

I did ,and its nowhere even near your scare story , London will still be the hub ,

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/29/london-to-lose-800bn-to-frankfurt-as-banks-prepare-for-brexit

[7by7]

8 hours ago, transam said:

21 hours ago, 7by7 said:

1)

Anyone who doesn't agree with you is in your book an "anti-British Brit!'

 

2) @Rookiescot is hiding that he's a Scottish nationalist (note small 'n'?! So you must think his avatar and all his posts in favour of Scottish independence are some form of cunning plan worthy of Baldrick!

 

 

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1) More assumptions and twisting from the losing side.

2) Spell/grammar checking is used by a losing side, plus, an avatar means nothing, just like yours. Raise your game chap...

 

1) As you frequently call anyone who posts here in disagreement to your views on Brexit "anti British Brits" or similar it's a fair assumption!

 

2) Not grammar police; a distinction between a person who supports Scottish independence and a member of the SNP. @Rookiescot is certainly the former, but I don't know if he is the latter.

 

My avatar is not a political statement; his is. 

 

I see that you have ignored the point about his frequent posts in favour of Scottish independence. Par for the course; you always ignore the points you can't answer.

[7by7]

8 hours ago, vogie said:

Yes, but they don't all try and blame England for everything.

 True; you lot try and blame the EU!

[ivor bigun]

23 minutes ago, pacovl46 said:

Listen, if you want to keep your head in the sand then be my guest, but what I’ve posted is the naked truth. Just google it! 
 

By the way, the real reason England declared war on Germany was because they wanted their reparation payments from WWI, which Germany refused to pay. If they had not done that England most likely would still quite a few of the colonies they had before WWII! 

 

I love your posts they give us all a good laugh ,,any more  good dreams like these?

[7by7]

5 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Nationalists - often driven by that huge entitled chip on their shoulder; racist xenophobia and prone to believing historical myths.

 

That's why they're so easily manipulated. 

 You have just described the average Brexiteer perfectly.

[vinny41]

24 minutes ago, pacovl46 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/29/london-to-lose-800bn-to-frankfurt-as-banks-prepare-for-brexit

This link relates to November 2018 and the information has been provided by a German lobby group are you unable to find something more recent

[ivor bigun]

23 minutes ago, pacovl46 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/29/london-to-lose-800bn-to-frankfurt-as-banks-prepare-for-brexit

wow ,the Guardian ,are they still begging for money to keep printing their left wing dreams? how many readers do they have ,have they hit a hundred yet????? 

[david555]

6 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

This link relates to November 2018 and the information has been provided by a German lobby group are you unable to find something more recent

Like this maybe ? recent enough ?   ????

 

Goldman Moving Up to $60 Billion of Assets to Germany

Goldman Sachs Group Inc. is shifting as much as $60 billion of assets from the U.K. to Frankfurt, the latest sign that banks are beefing up their European Union operations ahead of Brexit.

 

By 

Viren Vaghela

 and 

Steven Arons

November 6, 2020, 8:15 PM GMT+7 Updated on November 6, 2020, 10:19 PM GMT+7

Goldman Moving Up to $60 Billion of Assets to Germany - Bloomberg

 

Edited November 23, 2020 by david555

[7by7]

6 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

This link relates to November 2018 and the information has been provided by a German lobby group are you unable to find something more recent

 

From The Economist 24/10/20: What Brexit will do to the City of London

Quote

When the post-Brexit transition period ends and Britain leaves the single market on December 31st, financial links with the eu will become, in the words of its new financial-services chief, Mairead McGuinness, “less fluid”. That is putting it mildly. British-registered financial firms will lose the “passporting” rights that have long allowed them to sell funds, debt, advice or insurance to clients across the eu unimpeded, as if they were domestic. Thousands of jobs and well over £1trn ($1.3trn) of assets have already been shifted to continental Europe as City firms confront this new friction.

 

[7by7]

10 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

wow ,the Guardian ,are they still begging for money to keep printing their left wing dreams? how many readers do they have ,have they hit a hundred yet????? 

 

Yes, they do ask for a voluntary contribution.

 

Unlike the Brexit supporting Telegraph which is behind a pay wall!

[vinny41]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

Like this maybe ? recent enough ?   ????

 

Goldman Moving Up to $60 Billion of Assets to Germany

By 

Viren Vaghela

 and 

Steven Arons

November 6, 2020, 8:15 PM GMT+7 Updated on November 6, 2020, 10:19 PM GMT+7

Goldman Moving Up to $60 Billion of Assets to Germany - Bloomberg

 

The other link was quoting 800 Billions of Euros the Goldman link is saying between 40 billion and 60 billion looks like there is ar least 760 Billion of Euros unaccounted for Meanwhile

Covid and Brexit could see UK manufacturers bringing it all back home

Up to £4.8bn worth of goods for British retailers can be made locally, says report

UK factories could be making up to £4.8bn more goods for British retailers in the next 12 months as the coronavirus pandemic and Brexit prompt businesses to bring home production

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/23/covid-and-brexit-could-see-uk-manufacturers-bringing-it-all-back-home

[david555]

1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

The other link was quoting 800 Billions of Euros the Goldman link is saying between 40 billion and 60 billion looks like there is ar least 760 Billion of Euros unaccounted for Meanwhile

Covid and Brexit could see UK manufacturers bringing it all back home

Up to £4.8bn worth of goods for British retailers can be made locally, says report

UK factories could be making up to £4.8bn more goods for British retailers in the next 12 months as the coronavirus pandemic and Brexit prompt businesses to bring home production

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/23/covid-and-brexit-could-see-uk-manufacturers-bringing-it-all-back-home

Well i put my trust in Bloomberg as financial institute & financial  news  ..... mean time The Guardian now is liked by brexiteers .....

how things can change ???? 

[Susco]

6 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

The other link was quoting 800 Billions of Euros the Goldman link is saying between 40 billion and 60 billion looks like there is ar least 760 Billion of Euros unaccounted for Meanwhile

Covid and Brexit could see UK manufacturers bringing it all back home

Up to £4.8bn worth of goods for British retailers can be made locally, says report

UK factories could be making up to £4.8bn more goods for British retailers in the next 12 months as the coronavirus pandemic and Brexit prompt businesses to bring home production

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/23/covid-and-brexit-could-see-uk-manufacturers-bringing-it-all-back-home

 

Maybe reading classes were not your favourite subject at school, or is it something you conveniently ignore.

 

60 Billion is Goldman alone, the other article quoted 800 Billion for all financial institutions together

[herfiehandbag]

Just now, david555 said:

Well i put my trust in Bloomberg as financial institute & financial  news  ..... mean time The Guardian now is liked by brexiteers .....

how things can change ???? 

I am an unrepentant supporter of the UK leaving the EU. I anticipate that there will be short  and medium term difficulties and downsides, but I believe that in the medium to long  term it will be very much in our interests. I do not see the EU, in its current form, either fiscally or in terms of governance as sustainable ( a point of view perhaps rather supported by this topic). It will either become much more centralised, or unravel, and I am glad, in either case, that the UK is no longer a member - I suspect you may well be as well!

 

I also read the Guardian (and occasionally stump up some cash). I don't particularly agree with it's political stance, but that doesn't stop me appreciating it's reporting and journalism. One doesn't have to agree with it's opinions, to understand the news - a mistake which has poisoned so much "media" of late, both in the debate over Brexit and, brilliantly illustrated, the current chaos in the USA.

[vinny41]

17 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Maybe reading classes were not your favourite subject at school, or is it something you conveniently ignore.

 

60 Billion is Goldman alone, the other article quoted 800 Billion for all financial institutions together

Yes and the other article was November 2018 and the figures were provided by a German lobby group, clearly you can't find anything more recent and if your bothered to read the bloomberg article is stated between 40 billion and 60 billion

Clearly you didn't bother to read the article and just read the headline

[Susco]

27 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

The other link was quoting 800 Billions of Euros the Goldman link is saying between 40 billion and 60 billion looks like there is ar least 760 Billion of Euros unaccounted for Meanwhile

 

I found the missing 760 Billion for you, in fact I found a lot more for you

 

https://fortune.com/2020/10/01/banks-trillions-jobs-brexit-move/

 

Financial services firms operating in the U.K. have shifted about 7,500 employees and more than 1.2 trillion pounds ($1.6 trillion) of assets to the European Union ahead of Brexit -- with more likely to follow in coming weeks, according to EY.

 

About 400 relocations were announced in the past month alone, the consulting firm said in a report on Thursday that tracks 222 of the largest financial firms with significant operations in the U.K. Since Britain voted to leave the bloc in 2016, the finance industry has added 2,850 positions in the EU, with Dublin, Luxembourg and Frankfurt seeing the biggest gains.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-banks-pull-more-assets-from-london-ahead-of-crucial-brexit-deadline-11601551277

 

Accounting firm Ernst & Young estimates £1.2 trillion ($1.5 trillion) in bank assets are heading to continental Europe from the U.K., up from a projection of $1.3 trillion at the end of 2019. JPMorgan is moving around $230 billion in assets from the U.K. to its German operation, to support its trading and European client servicing there. U.S. banks in London say they are also transferring European clients on to new EU contracts one by one.

[vinny41]

23 minutes ago, david555 said:

Well i put my trust in Bloomberg as financial institute & financial  news  ..... mean time The Guardian now is liked by brexiteers .....

how things can change ???? 

You could ask yourself which media outlet spent millions on the 2016 EU Referendum I will give you a clue it wasn't The Guardian

PS I didn't see anything in my post where I stated I liked The Guardian

I read many different media outlets some i agree with some i don't agree with

 

[Susco]

7 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Yes and the other article was November 2018 and the figures were provided by a German lobby group, clearly you can't find anything more recent and if your bothered to read the bloomberg article is stated between 40 billion and 60 billion

Clearly you didn't bother to read the article and just read the headline

 

Thanks for confirming my earlier statement that you conveniently ignore to read, as I can't believe anyone can miss 1 out of only 2 lines only.

 

Here for you alone again

 

60 Billion is Goldman alone, the other article quoted 800 Billion for all financial institutions together.

 

I think that should make it obvious who read the headline only

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, transam said:

That was Parliament, where I assume London was chosen over your lot....????

That was the two countries forming a union in 1707.

Not the union of the crowns which happened over 100 years previously.

So yes. You were wrong.

Again.

[david555]

1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

You could ask yourself which media outlet spent millions on the 2016 EU Referendum I will give you a clue it wasn't The Guardian

PS I didn't see anything in my post where I stated I liked The Guardian

I read many different media outlets some i agree with some i don't agree with

 

PS I didn't see anything in my post where I stated I liked The Guardian

I read many different media outlets some i agree with some i don't agree with

 

Excuses by this ....if you took it personally.... i wouldn't like they think you liked the Guardian ....????  

BTW  i do like them ???? ,

but for a good laugh i check   express news U.K.....

[3NUMBAS]

EU expected  to go tits up in 2021 so what does it matter .the cartel is on its last legs like the columbian cartel

the 4th rech will end up like the 3rd reich as all reichs do

Edited November 23, 2020 by 3NUMBAS

[Susco]

2 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

EU expected  to go tits up in 2012 so what does it matter .the cartel is on its last legs like the columbian cartel

 

I have often wanted to ask you if the first letter in your username wasn't supposed to be a D. ????

 

2012 has passed 8 years already, just for your information

[473geo]

1 minute ago, Susco said:

 

I have often wanted to ask you if the first letter in your username wasn't supposed to be a D. ????

 

2012 has passed 8 years already, just for your information

2021 - a typo I suspect - invisible to those with no imagination, black and white tunnel vision, carrying no lateral thought process ????

 

No need to thank me ????

[Susco]

2 minutes ago, 473geo said:

2021 - a typo I suspect - invisible to those with no imagination,

 

Well, my imagination might be lacking according to you, but from your posts in the Brexit threads, it is obvious your imagination is alive and kicking, for not to say in high gear

[3NUMBAS]

grammer  nazis still exist on here ,amazing

[473geo]

15 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Well, my imagination might be lacking according to you, but from your posts in the Brexit threads, it is obvious your imagination is alive and kicking, for not to say in high gear

Thanks for the rather flat predictable response, but I have no need to drive my point home ????

[herfiehandbag]

Just now, 3NUMBAS said:

grammer  nazis still exist on here ,amazing

Well it wasn't really "grammar".

 

By the way, speaking as a punctuation enthusiast (!), when you use a comma the space goes after it rather than before.

 

Toodle pip!

[david555]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/11/23/british-companies-risk-billions-new-costs-eu-blocks-data-sharing/

British companies risk billions in new costs if EU blocks data sharing deal
A report warned costs would be 'disproportionality falling on SMEs at a time when the economy is already severely challenged'

 

By Hannah Boland
23 November 2020 • 6:00am

 

British companies risk being hit with £1.6bn in new costs if Brexit negotiators fail to strike a deal over data standards, researchers have warned.

 

A report from the New Economics Foundation and UCL European Institute released today said that British companies were facing steep new legal fees if the EU decided that post-Brexit UK data standards were not adequate and halted data flows between the two regions. 

 

 

 

Organisations including banks, technology companies and insurance firms currently transfer data, such as personal information or financial details, between the EU and UK so that they can process it. 

 

more...

 

 

 (waw ! what it is going to be ....U turn  again ?.... but in which direction ???? ...)

 

 Boris Johnson prepares significant Brexit intervention as negotiators begin the 'final push' (telegraph.co.uk)

By Gordon Rayner, POLITICAL EDITOR 22 November 2020 • 6:38pm

Edited November 23, 2020 by david555

[7by7]

45 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

EU expected  to go tits up in 2021 so what does it matter .the cartel is on its last legs like the columbian cartel

the 4th rech will end up like the 3rd reich as all reichs do

 OK, you've now corrected your typo.

 

So tell us; expected by whom?