Pennsylvania Judge Halts Further Vote Certification Steps

[Stupooey]

In both the 2016 and 2020 elections, Trump received a higher proportion of the vote than had been expected. This would imply that, if there were any election day shenanigans, they were perpetrated on behalf of the Republican side. For what it's worth, experience has taught me that people who accuse others of cheating normally do so because they are cheating themselves, and cannot believe that anyone can defeat them honestly.

[riclag]

6 minutes ago, Sujo said:

No its not an official hearing. Its an unofficial hearing set up by only repub members. Its basically a rally.

Deny it all you want the optics are telling ,especially now with sworn affidavits being heard by the PA legislature  !

I could care less what you think it is what it is! 

Its all playing out, truth and justice will win the day , there is no deflecting that!

[Sujo]

11 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Well the ball is rolling now, should be lots of action in the next couple of days. I need me some poppin corn.

action where? There are no official hearings regarding trump.

[Sujo]

Just now, placeholder said:

How many cases have been summarily dismissed in so short a time?

I believe its about 30. So much winning.

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

I believe its about 30. So much winning.

Actually, last time I checked it was 34.

[japanese]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And yet Republicans have been so reluctant to present any hard evidence to the courts. Hmmm... why is that?

Affidavits and statistical evidence are hard evidence.  So lets see how it plays out.

[Sujo]

1 minute ago, japanese said:

Affidavits and statistical evidence are hard evidence.  So lets see how it plays out.

And in which court did they present this so called evidence.

[Berkshire]

4 minutes ago, riclag said:

Deny it all you want the optics are telling ,especially now with sworn affidavits being heard by the PA legislature  !

I could care less what you think it is what it is! 

Its all playing out, truth and justice will win the day , there is no deflecting that!

I know you're in a fragile state-of-mind, so I'll try to be gentle.  These testimonies were not under oath.  Like they would be in a court of law.  Which means that these people could be lying their asses off.  You should consider that actual Trump lawsuits filed in court have failed at a nearly 100% rate.  Why is that I wonder?

 

[The session was billed as a hearing, but it took place at the Wyndham Hotel in Gettysburg, Pa., not in the state capitol in Harrisburg, and witnesses — including self-described data experts and amateur statisticians, Republican observers during the ballot-counting process, and a few voters who reported suspicious activities when they cast their ballots — were not sworn in.]

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/giuliani-tells-pennsylvania-legislators-they-can-override-popular-vote-to-appoint-pro-trump-electors-010121925.html

 

 

 

[darksidedog]

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[newnative]

   10 pages of posts on this and counting.  Perhaps a reminder at this point that Biden doesn't even need Pennsylvania to win.  He has more than the 270 electoral votes needed without it.  With PA, he's won by the same 'landslide' of 306 EC votes as Trump loudly boasted of in 2016--with the added flourish of 6 million more popular votes. 

    Curious how 306 is a 'landslide' according to Republicans in 2016 and a supposedly tight, disputed race according to Republicans in 2020.   You have to marvel  how they have absolutely no scruples whatsoever and can turn on a dime--like all of them did by going back on their promises not to confirm a Supreme Court nominee in an election year.  

[placnx]

57 minutes ago, japanese said:

Perhaps there is more than one Judge Brann serving in PA as apparently he was nominated by Obama.  Or perhaps just happens to be Obama's kind of conservative?

 

https://www.fjc.gov/history/judges/brann-matthew-william

Yes, Obama had Republicans in his cabinet and nominated middle-of-the-road judges, in contrast to Trump who did his best to get far-right as possible. And with the latest Supreme ruling allowing churches and synagogues to congregate without consideration for public health consequences, mostly on people NOT participating in services, we now see the result of an unbalanced Court.

 

Let's pray that the Dems win those two Senate races in Georgia. I have a feeling that we may need to add two judges to the SC to save the country from even further polarization.

 

As for the McConnell's excuses for reversing himself, if we want to move the Court back to the center, there should be a rule: In a Presidential election year, if the presidency and the Senate is held by the same party, a potential Supreme appointment should be left to the next presidential term (whether by reelection of incumbent or by successor). If parties of presidency and Senate majority differ, then an appointment could proceed, but the candidate proposed by the President would have to be acceptable to at least some of the Senate majority.

[RJRS1301]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Giuliani and others admitted that they had submitted no evidence of fraud. Nor did their lawsuits contend such.

He should sue for fraud committed by the manufacturers of his hair dye.

[placnx]

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

I think the last time I talked about a dead Mexican president conspiring with the Gates foundation, Russia and China to manipulate a voting software was when I was talking in my sleep after reading a comic book at the age of 6. 

 

I don’t think anyone is trying to convince anyone. You wouldn’t go to a nuthouse and try to convince those poor souls that they’re not really secretly being followed by little dark creatures trying to kidnap them. You just let them live in their fantasy world and let them believe their bullshít while you get on with your life. 

Maybe we have to try conversion therapy on them?

[ExpatOK]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't think that is correct. Far as I understand it if the election is cancelled it eventually goes to the congress where states have one vote each. If that happened Trump wins as apparently more states voted for Trump than for Biden.

I can't see them running another election.

Yes, many are saying Trump's strategy is to get it to the House of Representatives where it will be voted on and he will win as you say.  The 12th Amendment of the Constitution provides for this.

[pkspeaker]

yea I said on page 1 or 2 this will likly goto Jan 6 for the house to decide

[thaibeachlovers]

7 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

Yes, many are saying Trump's strategy is to get it to the House of Representatives where it will be voted on and he will win as you say.  The 12th Amendment of the Constitution provides for this.

Now, wouldn't that be a turn up for the books? LOL.

[welovesundaysatspace]

17 minutes ago, placnx said:

Maybe we have to try conversion therapy on them?

They (or their representatives) need to figure out what the best treatment is for them. The mental issues of all the nutjobs this world has ain’t my business. 

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, pkspeaker said:

yea I said on page 1 or 2 this will likly goto Jan 6 for the house to decide

Pure fantasy. 

President Elect Biden clearly won.

It will be decided by electoral votes.

306 for Biden.

270 to win.

Game over.

[NanLaew]

44 minutes ago, Susco said:

Maybe you should get your info from more reliable sources.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/10/24/trump-votes-in-person-and-slams-mail-in-voting-as-campaign-urges-voters-to-vote-by-mail/?sh=64bc178d1ec1

 

 I stand corrected, thanks. Maybe the confusion stems from what is cited in the article you linked to.

 

“Trump is voting in person early in Florida today, which is strange because he has run hundreds of Facebook ads claiming he voted by mail and urging his supporters to do the same,” tweeted journalist Judd Legum. “Many of the ads included what purported to be a picture of his signed mail-in ballot… These pictures are from the primary but as of a couple of days ago he was encouraging people to ‘Vote like Trump’ and request a mail-in ballot for the general.”

 

It appears Trump really hadn't a clue about how to manipulate something he had previously condoned to his opponent's detriment.

[newnative]

57 minutes ago, Susco said:

Maybe you should get your info from more reliable sources.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/10/24/trump-votes-in-person-and-slams-mail-in-voting-as-campaign-urges-voters-to-vote-by-mail/?sh=64bc178d1ec1

    True.  But in previous elections Trump did, indeed, vote by mail and found absolutely nothing wrong with voting that way.   Being his usual hypocrite, he only changed his tune as part of his warped, moronic election strategy.  Once again I will gleefully relay that he lost 24,000 Republican voters in Georgia--who voted by mail in the primary but, heeding Trump, did not vote by mail in the general election.  Luckily, they failed to show up in person to vote on election day and Trump lost the state by about 12,000 votes.   555555555   Hopefully, I can tell this wonderful story at least one or two more times while this endless debate goes on.   

[polpott]

3 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

I agree with you, perfectly normal. I suppose that the same thing happened everywhere then. With the Dems being so considerate and wise and voting by mail to save the world. Do we have the results from other places, Were the mail in votes 178 to 1 for Biden everywhere?

Iowa. Biden took a big lead in Iowa only to see it reversed overnight and Trump comfortably won the state. Guess what? Iowa decided to count the mail in ballots first and the on the day votes last. Coincidence?

[placnx]

58 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't think that is correct. Far as I understand it if the election is cancelled it eventually goes to the congress where states have one vote each. If that happened Trump wins as apparently more states voted for Trump than for Biden.

I can't see them running another election.

You're right, because Montana gets the same say as New York!

[placnx]

39 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

They (or their representatives) need to figure out what the best treatment is for them. The mental issues of all the nutjobs this world has ain’t my business. 

If you lived in America, it should be your business. Consider that a lot of nutjobs are carrying concealed weapons. I think that a lot of politicians have to self-censor and vote by party line since someone might otherwise take offense. So we just see more and more extreme behavior. It would be sensible if people with mental issues would be banned from carrying guns, but no......

[Psimbo]

Tinfoil and Kool  Aid available in Aisle 3 (Orange flavor of course).  Bubbas R Us continue to bleat about 'meeja conspiracies' when even a blind man could see that Trump LOST. Time to move on from denial. As for 70m distrusting the results back in reality land its only a misguided proportion of the 70m that continue to swallow his Bull Puckey- he should show a bit of dignity instead of behaving like a petulant 4 year old.

 

The man is toxic, he has made the election results toxic and in a toxic fit of pique is continuing to widen the divide between Americans. The sooner he's out of the swamp the better. 

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, henry2109 said:

Shure, and they will also catch the late Hugo Chavez for his involvement in the fraud, and of course Cuba, Russland, Iran and Hillary, Bernie, George Soros, right?

 

s/off:

The Texas Governor has set out a reward of USD 1 Mio. for somebody who can prove the voter fraud. When a widespread voter fraud happens, that million should be collected rather quick, don't you think? It has not happend, not a single case.

Stop humiliating yourself.

Actually the Pennsylvania Lt Governor is claiming $2 million for finding two cases of Republican voter fraud.  https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-lt-gov-alleged-gop-vote-cheats-texas-fraud-reward-1547912

 

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict the Texas Governor will welch on his offer.

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

Deny it all you want the optics are telling ,especially now with sworn affidavits being heard by the PA legislature  !

I could care less what you think it is what it is! 

Its all playing out, truth and justice will win the day , there is no deflecting that!

It's hilarious when Trump supporters think "optics" matter.  Funny how the optics of Trump's financial secrecy, and his entire life, don't matter to them

[Jingthing]

23 minutes ago, Psimbo said:

Tinfoil and Kool  Aid available in Aisle 3 (Orange flavor of course).  Bubbas R Us continue to bleat about 'meeja conspiracies' when even a blind man could see that Trump LOST. Time to move on from denial. As for 70m distrusting the results back in reality land its only a misguided proportion of the 70m that continue to swallow his Bull Puckey- he should show a bit of dignity instead of behaving like a petulant 4 year old.

 

The man is toxic, he has made the election results toxic and in a toxic fit of pique is continuing to widen the divide between Americans. The sooner he's out of the swamp the better. 

He never improves.

He always gets worse. 

Imagine how he would have been in a second term without an election to consider. 

Pure mad King.

American democracy would have been permanently destroyed. 

Its bad enough that he has greatly damaged it.

[darksidedog]

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Links to things associated with the topic,not trolling ones.

[ding]

It's time to turn the page, accept reality, and continue-on as America has done for a very long time.

I like a good gnashing of teeth and brow-furrowing, bet seriously.

[onthedarkside]

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