foreverlomsak Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 My friend went to get his annual retirement extension with no change in address / status, so presented same paperwork to same office as last year. Application was refused for using 2 bank accounts (combination was always in excess of 800k at any one time) and failure to provide proof of income. Was told to go to Pattaya Immigration and if they won’t give an extension (why would they he doesn’t live in Chonburi province let alone Pattaya) come back and we will sort something out (probably $$$$$). My friend (not me promise) does not want him or the office identified as it may bite back in the future, and yes this was recently. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtank Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) Not sure we are getting the full story here. Combination method? Maybe something wrong with the income proof. Combination of two bank accounts? Not clear. Edited December 6, 2020 by fishtank 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChouDoufu Posted December 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2020 that is strange. if using the 800k in the bank method, there is NO requirement to provide proof of income. how could he? he's, like, ummmmm........ retired. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 12 hours ago, fishtank said: Not sure we are getting the full story here. Combination method? Maybe something wrong with the income proof. Combination of two bank accounts? Not clear. Was using money in bank, enforced change of accounts during year, total 2 account balance never dropped below 800,000. No intent to use combination method, hence no proof of income presented as it's not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 12 hours ago, ChouDoufu said: that is strange. ain't it just Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 get an agent problem solved. Not sure why people make life so difficult for themselves, I use to do so, until I got a reliable and legally responsible agent. . 4 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lopburi3 Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said: Was using money in bank, enforced change of accounts during year, total 2 account balance never dropped below 800,000 So this was not two accounts with partial funds but a change of account containing the full 800k? If taken from one and deposited into another there might have been a time with no money (even if only minutes). Not saying that is what happened but they can be very strict on this I believe 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lopburi3 Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pilotman said: legally responsible agent 3 1 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foreverlomsak Posted December 7, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Pilotman said: get an agent problem solved. no agent in his locality, and why should somebody have to travel hundreds of Km, spend 3/4 nights in a hotel and pay maybe as much as 20,000 for something that is not hard to compile and should only cost 1,900 Baht in the local office. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said: no agent in his locality, and why should somebody have to travel hundreds of Km, spend 3/4 nights in a hotel and pay maybe as much as 20,000 for something that is not hard to compile and should only cost 1,900 Baht in the local office. because it hasn't worked? ???? 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, lopburi3 said: there might have been a time with no money (even if only minutes) 400k+ transferred from 1st to 2nd mid year (with 400k+ left in 1st) when only 400k needed, increased to 800k+ in time for new extension. What did he do wrong? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 It's always a 'friend'. Cobbling together two accounts seems like a recipe for disaster, could have just merged them two months ago. What did your "friend" do last year? I'd advise your "friend" to go back and ask for options. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 12 hours ago, ChouDoufu said: that is strange. if using the 800k in the bank method, there is NO requirement to provide proof of income. how could he? he's, like, ummmmm........ retired. In Jomtien, for the 65k baht/month method you are required to prove that your income is derived from a pension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said: 400k+ transferred from 1st to 2nd mid year (with 400k+ left in 1st) when only 400k needed, increased to 800k+ in time for new extension. What did he do wrong? The money was 800k for 2 months before application for new extension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, lopburi3 said: The money was 800k for 2 months before application for new extension? 3 months before per old requirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said: Was using money in bank, enforced change of accounts during year, total 2 account balance never dropped below 800,000. No intent to use combination method, hence no proof of income presented as it's not needed. I put my money in two bank accounts in the same bank and never had any problem. In fact, I just renewed it a few days ago. I don't think the reason is that, please get an official written reason so that we can see. You could have violated the 3 months after approval rule. Most people only remember the 2 months before application rule. They are very strict on the 3 months after. Please give them a 12 months bank statement to verify. Edited December 7, 2020 by EricTh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OJAS Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, foreverlomsak said: My friend (not me promise) does not want him or the office identified as it may bite back in the future, and yes this was recently. If your pal is not prepared to at least spill the beans as regards the particular office involved in this instance, then there is little point to this thread IMHO. Other retirees who use the same office might appreciate a heads-up on the problems which he has experienced. I can, however, understand his reluctance at having himself identified (which would be against forum rules in any event). Edited December 7, 2020 by OJAS 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, lopburi3 said: So this was not two accounts with partial funds but a change of account containing the full 800k? If taken from one and deposited into another there might have been a time with no money (even if only minutes). Not saying that is what happened but they can be very strict on this I believe I'd say right there is the problem. Money should be in one account. Immigration officers are bureaucrats, not a friendly uncle. IMO they only care that the correct procedure is followed, and are not interested in going off script. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, EricTh said: You could have violated the 3 months after approval rule. nope, he was well aware of that rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tinca tinca Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, Pilotman said: get an agent problem solved. Not sure why people make life so difficult for themselves, I use to do so, until I got a reliable and legally responsible agent. . no agent is legal......there here ro MAKE MONEY FROM FARANGS 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Money should be in one account. Not always possible. Some fixed term accounts end, not all roll over year on year, and the money has to be transferred to another account (either existing or new). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, foreverlomsak said: Not always possible. Some fixed term accounts end, not all roll over year on year, and the money has to be transferred to another account (either existing or new). I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed- has to be continuous in one account, but tell me if I'm wrong. I never had that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, tinca tinca said: no agent is legal......there here ro MAKE MONEY FROM FARANGS So? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinca tinca Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, foreverlomsak said: Not always possible. Some fixed term accounts end, not all roll over year on year, and the money has to be transferred to another account (either existing or new). THEY uses to allow money in ordinary a/c and fixed term a/c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tinca tinca Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: So? so they are NOT LEGAL thats it....very simple..... 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, tinca tinca said: no agent is legal......there here ro MAKE MONEY FROM FARANGS its a business, so of course they are out to make money. As to your insinuation that all agents are operating illegally, that is a commonly held myth among those who don't know the system that operates here . 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinca tinca Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pilotman said: its a business, so of course they are out to make money. As to your insinuation that all agents are operating illegally, that is a commonly held myth among those who don't know the system that operates here . i know how the system works here....OKAY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ICELANDMAN Posted December 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2020 This doesn't make any sense, probably the officer just wanted a brown envelope and every excuse was made up 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverlomsak Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, ICELANDMAN said: This doesn't make any sense, probably the officer just wanted a brown envelope and every excuse was made up you may very well be correct, knowing my friend he had no chance of getting one, and he will have no chance from me either in a couple of months time, if I can't get my extension from my local office for 1,900 Baht then I may be forced to go another route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, tinca tinca said: no agent is legal......there here ro MAKE MONEY FROM FARANGS does this not also apply to Immigration officers too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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