kevmin13 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 11 hours ago, sanuk711 said: I think we can all put that answer down to........ "I really don't have a clue---but it sounded good after a few Chang's"......???? When countries print more money without the backing it devalues the money. Most money is now fiat money. It is all basically about supply and demand now since countries went away from gold standard. The more money printed the less valuable it becomes because its more readily available. Sad thing is its all political too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I think Thailands biggest concern is the hospitals would be overwhelmed basically as anyone tested positive or asymptomatic is hospitalised. In the the U.K. all non essential procedures were cancelled and Nightingale Hospitals were built as the government were advised at the stat the NHS would be overwhelmed. It never happened and very few of the thousands of extra beds in the Nightingale Hospitals were unoccupied. Wether Thailand realise it or not Covid patients don’t need to be hospitalised,, it’s a money making racket for people testing positive in ASQ Hotels and hospitals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevmin13 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, shdmn said: They don't have much of anything in place including competent leadership and that is the problem. Also, 30% of Americans are obese. 60% are overweight. Those are major contributing factors. Something the media has chosen to ignore. Where are reports that obesity had anything to do with contributing factors. I think one of the main contributing factors is the fact that hospitals get $10,000 for COVID-19 deaths vs around $2,000 for Cancer or other deaths by the Government. I have had several friends of mine that have lost parents one a heart attack and another in a car accident. The hospitals tried to say COVID-19 for both. Both families fought it and won. The lies are real. I am 49 years old and about 30lbs overweight and had COVID-19 but didnt get affected by it really. I had worse colds. My friend who is physically fit had worse symptons. An friends ex bf had it and he was in great shape lost his life to it supposedly. Apparently he had other underlying issues and it wasnt weight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, kevmin13 said: Where are reports that obesity had anything to do with contributing factors. I think one of the main contributing factors is the fact that hospitals get $10,000 for COVID-19 deaths vs around $2,000 for Cancer or other deaths by the Government. I have had several friends of mine that have lost parents one a heart attack and another in a car accident. The hospitals tried to say COVID-19 for both. Both families fought it and won. The lies are real. I am 49 years old and about 30lbs overweight and had COVID-19 but didnt get affected by it really. I had worse colds. My friend who is physically fit had worse symptons. An friends ex bf had it and he was in great shape lost his life to it supposedly. Apparently he had other underlying issues and it wasnt weight. https://lmgtfy.app/?q=covid+obesity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Chance Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 According to resent studies Ivermectin is effective in preventing and treating Coronavirus. Meaning we would only need to take 1 tab a week , plus vitamin D and the virus could be arrested. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, Don Chance said: According to resent studies Ivermectin is effective in preventing and treating Coronavirus. Meaning we would only need to take 1 tab a week , plus vitamin D and the virus could be arrested. Lots of claims out there but none proven to help. Ivermectin has been tested since May and no positive results concerning Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, geisha said: Lots of claims out there but none proven to help. Ivermectin has been tested since May and no positive results concerning Covid. As I have said many time there is no cure for a virus although some drugs might ease the symptoms. I would hate to think if I was hospitalised in Thailand what they would ‘pump’ into me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Chance Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 34 minutes ago, geisha said: Lots of claims out there but none proven to help. Ivermectin has been tested since May and no positive results concerning Covid. Ok Dr. Geisha, i am sure you know more than this guy who works on the front line with 1000's of patients dying from covid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Sounds good,one thing stopping it 14 days in a hotel,Gov sets the price and quaratine period.drop that and you may get some takers.take a test before u arrive or the vaccine has being taken then they will come.otherwise the answer is no for the many 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Will they come? Sure, some will. The ones who were repeatedly dropped on their heads while children. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shy coconut Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Mavideol said: just open the damn country, what the heck, there is no virus here or in nearby countries, nothing to worry about (sarcasm intended) and I didn't mention the UK, USA, France, Germany, etc., all of them having new clusters increasing daily infections Thailand saw 25 new cases in quarantine over a 24-hour period https://news.yahoo.com/south-koreas-coronavirus-infections-second-091303338.html South Korea's new coronavirus infections at second highest in new wave https://news.yahoo.com/china-tests-250-000-people-074156196.html China tests 250,000 people for Covid after new cluster emerges https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h00657/ Japan records 2,170 new cases on December 8, and the number of severe cases rises by 6 to 536. World / Countries / Japan Last updated: December 09, 2020, 11:16 GMT Japan ---- Coronavirus Cases: 163,929 Deaths: = 2,382 Besides Thailand, the countries you listed are now in the flu season, covid, like flu and other respiratory viruses are most prevalent in the cold winter months, so no real surprise in the increase in positive test results. I fully expect the same pattern to emerge in Europe and North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locked in Ozzie Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Every day something different from someone different. No cohesiveness of thought or action. Whilst ever there is the ASQ no one will come. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellee Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 23 hours ago, webfact said: Special Tourist Visa: Thailand opens to the world - But will the tourists really come? Reuters file photo for reference only In a massive U-turn after few people turned up as part of the government's STV (special tourist visa) scheme Thailand has decided to open up to the whole world irrespective of Covid conditions. They have abandoned the requirement that the STV will only be given to those from low risk countries - but announced that all the checks and paperwork will still need to be followed. Crucially, this means visitors will still have to quarantine for 14 days. This much criticized sticking point begs the question: Will the government's move inspire any more tourists to come to the country? Critics will say that the cabinet's latest decision is putting a BandAid on the festering sore that is the much maligned STV project that allows long stay in Thailand. The government hopes that allowing visitors from every country on earth - including hotbed places like the US and many countries in Europe - will provide more tourists and give Thailand's ailing tourism sector a much needed boost. It will have to. So far the numbers have been tiny in relation to usual tourism figures. Picture: Manager Online PM's office deputy spokesman Ratchada Thanadirek faced the press after a cabinet meeting and admitted that only 825 people had come on the STV so far. And there were just SIX visitors on yachts; to boost this number the government resolved to allow such people to stay 30 more days, now a total of 60. Ratchada was at pains to point out that everyone on STV must complete all the requirements that have been so roundly criticized. And that includes the expensive and onerous 14 day quarantine. Many will say that the government's U-turn is more like a vicious circle with the inevitable consequence that few people will consider coming to Thailand unless they have very specific reasons - like family and business, notes Thaivisa. Source: Manager Online -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-12-09 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Wishful thinking, with the world economy with millions of jobless, expensive gouging hotel quarantine fees tourism is the last thing people have in mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 23 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: If people do go to LOS then they will have to be able to get a return flight to their country of origin and then pay for 14 more days of quarantine. Along with the expensive air fares they will have to buy insurance which makes a trip very expensive. I read some comment on international news, that they thought that no one will take up this offer, mainly because of the paperwork and quarantine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5633572526 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 23 hours ago, sanuk711 said: And just how do you do that Jack ?? Central bank cuts interest rates to 0% or they can just do what the CCP did to help limit the effects of the USA tariffs and just change the exchange rate instead of letting it float. Pretty simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 8:33 AM, RotBenz8888 said: No, plenty of other options without quaranten. https://www.timeout.com/london/news/no-quarantine-countries-holiday-destinations-uk-travel-100220-120420 What other options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 23 hours ago, sanuk711 said: I agree--much to high......... But the unelected "PM" and his generals have to keep their income stream up, and that is the main reason ASQ will be with us for a very long time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Will Set You Free Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 8:30 AM, webfact said: Special Tourist Visa: Thailand opens to the world - But will the tourists really come? No! Would you come? Most of the surrounding countries are doing quarantine now too. They also requires health insurance too. So Asia has shot themself in the foot when it comes to tourist for 2021-2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 18 hours ago, brucegoniners said: These people are delusional. If they think for a second anyone will go on vacation and spend 14 days in quarantine they are out of their gords. Total wishful thinking. It never ceases to amaze me how they make plan after plan that never makes any sense. Admit it. The county is screwed until the pandemic ends. End of story. Let people in without quarantine and covid will spread like wildfire again. And I know they're not that stupid. Or at least I hope they aren't. "It never ceases to amaze me how they make plan after plan that never makes any sense." and that is one of the reasons Thailand has about an 8% less IQ than most, if not all western countries, and that must also apply to the unelected "PM" and his soldiers with an education from a military academy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Will Set You Free Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 8:30 AM, webfact said: PM's office deputy spokesman Ratchada Thanadirek faced the press after a cabinet meeting and admitted that only 825 people had come on the STV so far. And there were just SIX visitors on yachts; to boost this number the government resolved to allow such people to stay 30 more days, now a total of 60. Ratchada was at pains to point out that everyone on STV must complete all the requirements that have been so roundly criticized. And that includes the expensive and onerous 14 day quarantine. Many will say that the government's U-turn is more like a vicious circle with the inevitable consequence that few people will consider coming to Thailand unless they have very specific reasons - like family and business, notes Thaivisa. Only 825 people? The numbers was 1000 and now the truth has come out. The government has not did a U-turn. I have been saying from the beginning that it all for show. They can tell the Thai people anything and they would believe it. What do you expect when there more than 50% of the culture is uneducated when it comes to what going on in their own country. Their only concern is where are they going to get that next baht for their family, mother and father. So why blame what the government is doing. They are the keepers of their people........???????????????? Don’t hate the government, hate the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 18 hours ago, RR2020 said: People "stuck" in the UK are jumping on planes to the Caribbean, to the Canary Islands, to Greece and to loads of hot sunny places where there is NO QUARANTINE. As a matter of interest, what is the covid situation like in the Caribbean, Greece etc? If people from the UK are not spreading the covid in these countries, why should they spread it in Thailand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinBKK Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 8:44 AM, sanuk711 said: And just how do you do that Jack ?? Simply by using currency manipulation. They lie about doing it, but we all know they do. They can manipulate it back in the other direction ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NoshowJones Posted December 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2020 12 hours ago, koolkarl said: Take a look at the aqi map for all of Thailand. Only 3 spots in the very south where the air quality is acceptable. The rest of the country is slowly getting sick breathing constant air pollution. Who would want to pay for 2 weeks expensive quarantine, stick up the nose 4 times, pay for 2 types of overpriced insurance who won't pay a claim anyways and then breath some of the most polluted air on this planet, all year? The politicians need to wake up. Politicians???? Your talking about an unelected "PM" and military educated generals here. The only thing they have in common with real politicians is that they are all liars. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunKenAP Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I am waiting on TOT's BS spin and BS numbers, before committing to a resounding NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Forever Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 If Covid is declared over I will be there. I expect there are others who think and act like me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward290453 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 The message as gone out around the world Thailand's 14day quarantine in hotels is like committing your self to a jail term. Solatery confinement, and exspensive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedReding Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Everyone who owns a house or has a rental contract should be allowed to self quarantine at home. Maybe the next step? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckenfell Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 11:39 AM, Jack Mountain said: Bring the Baht down 25% then the people will come ... money talks! But a snowballs chance in hell if we still have to quarantine for 14 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, RedReding said: Everyone who owns a house or has a rental contract should be allowed to self quarantine at home. Maybe the next step? Yes, it would be great in theory but it wont ever happen. There is no way to monitor if people are doing the quarantine, you could have friends over, go out etc.There would literally need to be a person at each house monitoring quarantine compliance. Also hard to isolate a property from the one next door, a window/balcony could literally be 1-2 meters from a neighbours window/balcony. Who supplies the food and maintains quarantine conditions etc Edited December 10, 2020 by Peterw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlkik Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, RedReding said: Everyone who owns a house or has a rental contract should be allowed to self quarantine at home. Maybe the next step? My home is in Udon so how would I get to my home ? A private jet ? Private ambulance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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