Video: "Farang's" motorcycle accident and rant causes much comment online

[scammed]

2 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Rather than wave your arms about and shout!! you move to the right, overtaking the Thai guy as you would a stationary vehicle, as he almost was, I think a better alternative than 'throwing yourself off' but you are welcome to disagree

the way the thai was driving, you could not tell his intention,

he was every bit as likely to continue cross the road as to reverse, and in the end, he did neither, but that was impossible to foresee because the thai himself didnt know what to do

[473geo]

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Your honor. He turned the wrong way onto oncoming traffic, into the wrong lane, did not appear to be paying any attention to whether or not there were any motor vehicles in the lane while doing so, and was the direct cause of this accident. I rest my case.

 

What can one say? At the very minimum, if you are going to behave in a totally brainless, and completely disrespectful manner like this, at least stay in the median strip, and look where you are going. He could have been mowed down by a large truck. Game over. The risks I see people taking here, with their own lives, and the lives of others, is beyond belief. 

 

Glad he could speak Thai. That guy sure got the earful he deserved. Will he learn anything from it?

 

 

He turned right into the traffic and when the farang approached he slowed to almost stationary to let him pass, the farang, rather than ease out and pass, started waving his arms, thus not in full control of his vehicle and shouting -  prior to we are informed on this Thaivisa thread - throwing himself off the unstable electric machine

[scammed]

7 minutes ago, 473geo said:

He turned right into the traffic and when the farang approached he slowed to almost stationary to let him pass, the farang, rather than ease out and pass, started waving his arms, thus not in full control of his vehicle and shouting -  prior to we are informed on this Thaivisa thread - throwing himself off the unstable electric machine

he got aware of his surroundings when the e biker waved his hand and shouted, thereafter he didnt know what to do when he realized he had placed himself in the path of the e biker,

he couldnt make up his mind if he was going to continue cross the road or revert back, and eventually he did neither.

the e biker could not make out what the thai was going to do, and neither would you or anyone else without the gift of foresight

[473geo]

1 minute ago, scammed said:

he got aware of his surroundings when the e biker waved his hand and shouted, thereafter he didnt know what to do when he realized he had placed himself in the path of the e biker,

he couldnt make up his mind if he was going to continue cross the road or revert back, and eventually he did neither

 

Meanwhile the electric super rider was approaching waving his arms and shouting, rather than just ease out and ride by - not surprised the Thai guy was confused a guy approaching acting like he is on a runaway horse

[scammed]

4 minutes ago, 473geo said:

 

Meanwhile the electric super rider was approaching waving his arms and shouting, rather than just ease out and ride by - not surprised the Thai guy was confused a guy approaching acting like he is on a runaway horse

firstly, the thai was oblivious that the lane he entered

was already occupied (read up on right of way),

the thai only ever became aware of that fact because the e biker alerted him.

the thai, as he realized the mess he had caused, could not make up his mind what to do, and because of that, nor could the e biker.

you only know the thai ended up parking right in the middle of the e bikers path because you saw the end of that video,

the e biker did not know what the thai was eventually going to do because he hadnt seen the video beforehand

[473geo]

1 minute ago, scammed said:

firstly, the thai was oblivious that the lane he entered

was already occupied (read up on right of way),

the thai only ever became aware of that fact because the e biker alerted him.

the thai, as he realized the mess he had caused, could not make up his mind what to do, and because of that, nor could the e biker.

you only know the thai ended up parking right in the middle of the e bikers path because you saw the end of that video,

the e biker did not know what the thai was eventually going to do because he hadnt seen the video beforehand

Possibly the Thai guy was working out how to get around the Ebike laid on the road after the pilot had ejected

 

[scammed]

1 minute ago, 473geo said:

Possibly the Thai guy was working out how to get around the Ebike laid on the road after the pilot had ejected

 

he was trying to figure out if he should continue crossing the lane or revert, then when time was out for either, he froze right in the middle of the e bikers path

[473geo]

2 minutes ago, scammed said:

he was trying to figure out if he should continue crossing the lane or revert, then when time was out for either, he froze right in the middle of the e bikers path

Look the Thai guy was not within the law, at fault for being in the wrong place. Me approaching I would have either stopped tight to the left to see what he intended, or moved to right, keeping a careful eye out that he was allowing me by, given him a cheery hello and been on my way. So we can safely say that while the actions of the Thai were wrong what followed on the electric bike was a comedy of errors culminating in a farcical - in your words 'throwing himself off' on the part of the rider, without which there would have been no 'accident'

[BigStar]

12 hours ago, bbbbooboo said:

Hmmm... if the “alien” had not been in Thailand then the accident wouldn’t have happened. Us aliens need to remember this when doing anything in the “Land of Smiles“

Stereotypical ignorant nonsense. But this idiot was paying attention to his GoPro while creating a highly informative--and, inadvertently, highly entertaining--presentation for his imagined audience. Hence he reacted much too slowly and resorted to a notably ineffectual yell when the Thai pulled out. Really.

 

It was much like talking on a cellphone while driving. Hands-free, so legal, but still sufficiently distracting on a motorbike.

 

Some people are just headed for an accident no matter where they are and I suspect he's likely one of them.  

[spidermike007]

59 minutes ago, 473geo said:

He turned right into the traffic and when the farang approached he slowed to almost stationary to let him pass, the farang, rather than ease out and pass, started waving his arms, thus not in full control of his vehicle and shouting -  prior to we are informed on this Thaivisa thread - throwing himself off the unstable electric machine

Well, we can call into question the skills of the foreigner, who was not at fault. And it is possible a better rider would have simply swerved to the right and avoided the collision. But, it appeared there were two motorbikes that blocked his path, and he likely got confused. And the Thai guy should never have been in that lane to begin with, so no reason to be making excuses for his dumb moves. Whether he stopped or not, he was still blocking an opposing lane. 

[richard_smith237]

18 hours ago, Neeranam said:

On 12/10/2020 at 1:43 PM, richard_smith237 said:

We may feel sorry for the Thai motorcyclists because he’s feckless and poor (if he is) but he still caused an accident. 

He didn't cause the accident. 

 

The Thai motorcyclist pulled out into an oncoming motorcyclist on the wrong side of the road forcing the Western Motorcyclist to react - If that is not cause of the accident we were watching different videos !

[473geo]

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Well, we can call into question the skills of the foreigner, who was not at fault. And it is possible a better rider would have simply swerved to the right and avoided the collision. But, it appeared there were two motorbikes that blocked his path, and he likely got confused. And the Thai guy should never have been in that lane to begin with, so no reason to be making excuses for his dumb moves. Whether he stopped or not, he was still blocking an opposing lane. 

 

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The Thai motorcyclist pulled out into an oncoming motorcyclist on the wrong side of the road forcing the Western Motorcyclist to react - If that is not cause of the accident we were watching different videos !

In ability to react accordingly caused the accident, preoccupation in communicating with the other guy instead of making a simple pass

[Freigeist365]

Another day at the office...

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, 473geo said:

4 hours ago, transam said:

Do Thai folk....?

 

You know, an umbrella in one hand, phone in the other and a kid on the handle bars.........????..........

The blame the farang thread continues......????

Trans even you must agree if rather than shouting and waving his arms the farang had just eased out a yard there would have been no 'accident' the Thai guy was almost stationary waiting for him to pass.

 

Its clear for everyone to see, the Westerner could have avoided an accident. I don’t think anyone disputes that. 

 

The issue really is that he should never have been put in the position to have to avoid an accident of someone riding the wrong way towards him.

[473geo]

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Its clear for everyone to see, the Westerner could have avoided an accident. I don’t think anyone disputes that. 

 

The issue really is that he should never have been put in the position to have to avoid an accident of someone riding the wrong way towards him.

 

Well you see Richard the incompetence and inability to deal correctly with the situation, was further compounded by his treatment of the Thai guy afterwards, which rather defined his character, so if there is a lack of sympathy and support, are you going to blame the Thai guy for that also

[BigStar]

24 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Its clear for everyone to see, the Westerner could have avoided an accident. I don’t think anyone disputes that. 

 

The issue really is that he should never have been put in the position to have to avoid an accident of someone riding the wrong way towards him.

That's of course an issue but not the main issue of relevance.

 

Nothing can or will be done about the exceptional frequency with which motorists in Thailand will put other motorists, or themselves, into dangerous situations. The continual schoolmarming by our ace TVF Driving Instructors doesn't help--and never has, over all these years--improve Thai driving practices in the slightest but merely indulges a recreational pleasure of generating hot air on an internet forum.

 

So the main issue for members here is that, given unchangeable Thai driving practices, what can I myself do when driving to reduce my own risk of accident or injury? This case illustrates relevant principles re:

• expecting the unexpected,
• anticipating what Thais drivers might do (example here),
• exercise more caution at intersections,
• avoid distracted driving,
• moving out of the way helps more than yelling,
• applying only front brakes won't lead to a satisfactory emergency stop,
• slow down and think of an avoidance maneuver when a driver is headed directly for you,
• exercise extra caution when driving a homemade vehicle of doubtful safety,
• maintain composure after an accident to avoid additional unwelcome complications.

 

[thaicookingchef]

Foreigner on a motorbike cannot be so smart anyway, not a big loss.

 

 

[transam]

4 hours ago, 473geo said:

Trans even you must agree if rather than shouting and waving his arms the farang had just eased out a yard there would have been no 'accident' the Thai guy was almost stationary waiting for him to pass.

So the farang is to blame....Ok, Ok, I stand corrected and wish you "Romans" all the best of luck....????

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The Thai motorcyclist pulled out into an oncoming motorcyclist on the wrong side of the road forcing the Western Motorcyclist to react - If that is not cause of the accident we were watching different videos !

I understand if we were in the west, but we're not. The farang should have been aware of the situation. 

[transam]

25 minutes ago, thaicookingchef said:

Foreigner on a motorbike cannot be so smart anyway, not a big loss.

 

 

Oh hello, how are you today....?  ????

Can you tell us what the farang lost...?

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

That's of course an issue but not the main issue of relevance.

 

Nothing can or will be done about the exceptional frequency with which motorists in Thailand will put other motorists, or themselves, into dangerous situations. The continual schoolmarming by our ace TVF Driving Instructors doesn't help--and never has, over all these years--improve Thai driving practices in the slightest but merely indulges a recreational pleasure of generating hot air on an internet forum.

 

So the main issue for members here is that, given unchangeable Thai driving practices, what can I myself do when driving to reduce my own risk of accident or injury? This case illustrates relevant principles re:

• expecting the unexpected,
• anticipating what Thais drivers might do (example here),
• exercise more caution at intersections,
• avoid distracted driving,
• moving out of the way helps more than yelling,
• applying only front brakes won't lead to a satisfactory emergency stop,
• slow down and think of an avoidance maneuver when a driver is headed directly for you,
• exercise extra caution when driving a homemade vehicle of doubtful safety,
• maintain composure after an accident to avoid additional unwelcome complications.

 

The farang idiot obviously has been here a while and should know better. This attitude could get him killed if he meets the wrong person. 

[hkt83100]

Looks to me like the classic error. Overdoing the front brake, blocking the wheel, so no more steering possible. Otherwise he (the farang) might have moved a little bit to the right and avoided the crash/the drop. If you ride a motorbike here, never forget you have no right of way. Otherwise, it was a clear fault of the Thai guy, the usual way of turning right onto the wrong lane.

[jerolamo]

On 12/10/2020 at 7:12 AM, robblok said:

Yes its OUR job to educate the Thais in their own country. I wonder how that would work out in the other countries ????

Instruction quality and knowledge has nothing to do with xenophobic ideas.

If someone is an idiot, it is the same idiot even if he is Thai or farang. And make a difference on this is also an idiotic difference. If you can not understand, it is an intellectual limit.

But sure, when you are riding on a road with lot of dangerous idiots, you have to be very cleaver and much careful about stupid drivers and xenophobic moron (as it is also logic that when you are stupid all day, every day, you should be also a xenophobic people, it is linked).

[richard_smith237]

5 hours ago, Neeranam said:

7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The Thai motorcyclist pulled out into an oncoming motorcyclist on the wrong side of the road forcing the Western Motorcyclist to react - If that is not cause of the accident we were watching different videos !

I understand if we were in the west, but we're not. The farang should have been aware of the situation. 

 

Agreed... The Farang should have been aware of the situation. But that does not change the fact that the Thai should not have pulled out, turned right onto the wrong side of the road into oncoming traffic. 

 

With any basic riding experience, we (pretty much everyone reading this thread) would have very likely avoided an accident. But this 'obstacle' still something we would have had to avoid when we shouldn’t have to. 

 

Some are viewing this like a ‘pot hole in the road’... something to be avoided. But, its more than that - Total imbecile putting others at risk.

 

I don't like violence, but if a slap across the head was ever warranted... 

[473geo]

5 hours ago, transam said:

Oh hello, how are you today....?  ????

Can you tell us what the farang lost...?

His balance and his cool for starters trans ????

[whaleboneman]

7 hours ago, thaicookingchef said:

Foreigner on a motorbike cannot be so smart anyway, not a big loss.

 

 

Oh silly. Motorbikes and longtails are the only way to see Thailand.

[Visarghhhh]

You have to watch out, people there ride in all directions, including against traffic, and on sidewalks, so don't expect them to follow neat and obedient traffic rules like in Europe.  And I have to admit I've also followed them on the sidewalk in Bkk.

[LeoCesar]

Always expect the worst to happen in Thailand traffic.

They are lunatics all of them.

[Truth Will Set You Free]

On 12/10/2020 at 9:24 AM, Liverpoolfan said:

This thailand, you know?

You not like you go back your country, ok?

Because this is Thailand does not make it right. People like you bring down the country with such negative comments. I hope it goes out to others country so no tourist would want to visit this place. Then what would be your comment when you don’t have any money coming in? 

[transam]

9 hours ago, 473geo said:

His balance and his cool for starters trans ????

I would probably have done the same....Short, sharp, shock....????.......................????