Popular Post vinny41 Posted December 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 3 hours ago, sandyf said: You are perfectly free to interpret anything you read in any way you want, doesn't make it fact. The so called "Australian terms" is another Bojo lie. The UK cannot leave on "Australian terms", although there is a high probability that will be where they end up. Australia already has a multitude of agreements with the EU so the UK cannot possibly be in the same position Jan 1st. Australia is currently trying to negotiate an FTA with the EU, something else the UK is about to abandon. If Australia doesn't like it's arrangement with the EU, why would the UK? Going back on what is promised has become so common with the brexit brigade that people now see it as par for the course. Once again you are going off on a different topic Can we assume that you agree with the main media outlets that the EU contingency proposals contain also the agreement of a level playing field Which you claimed was garbage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, luckyluke said: It may happen. One never know, there is no guarantee. Despite that The Titanic was build in Belfast, chief designer the Briton Thomas Andrews Jr., operated by the British shipping company White Star Line, it sank on the first voyage. It didnt , it was the already damaged sister ship that sunk, it was an insurance fraud . Do a google search Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Will you be shedding a little tear when we hand over some of our sovereignty to the WTO? Which "sovereignty" are you referring to ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, CorpusChristie said: Do a google search I did, seems a conspiracy theory, but than maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 43 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: It didnt , it was the already damaged sister ship that sunk, it was an insurance fraud . Do a google search Whatever conspiracy theory you believe ...., it was a British designed ship ....and that "damn Iceberg" would not divert for a "rule Britannia waves ship " coming .....( Iceberg probably didn't see the flag ....????.....) ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Which "sovereignty" are you referring to ? That question shall be answered after total brexit ends i guess .....no! i am sure !....next headache for Boris ... (if still in charge ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, david555 said: Whatever conspiracy theory you believe ...., it was a British designed ship ....and that "damn Iceberg" would not divert for a "rule Britannia waves ship " coming .....( Iceberg probably didn't see the flag ....????.....) ???? If you read the story , it seems to make sense , it all fits . Anyway , you seem to using the sinking of a ship as a celebration , because it was a UK design , which is rather unpleasant and immature. Will be be gloating about the Concord crash next ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: If you read the story , it seems to make sense , it all fits . Anyway , you seem to using the sinking of a ship as a celebration , because it was a UK design , which is rather unpleasant and immature. Will be be gloating about the Concord crash next ? Not the sinking .... only comparing the steering to a disaster when even knowing icebergs are around .... typical blind self-assurance as for now with Boris as the captain on the Brexit-coaster ???? BTW .... nice try to put it in a bad way .... keep learning 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, david555 said: Not the sinking .... only comparing the steering to a disaster when even knowing icebergs are around .... typical blind self-assurance as for now with Boris as the captain on the Brexit-coaster ???? BTW .... nice try to put it in a bad way .... keep learning Comparing Brexit with the Titanic ? I will raise you a : Comparing Brexit to World War 2 , they both took about the same amount of time and the end results are the same . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Comparing Brexit with the Titanic ? I will raise you a : Comparing Brexit to World War 2 , they both took about the same amount of time and the end results are the same . Only your comparing cost much ...much ..more lives .......but as a brexiteer it is not a problem to do so ....only not as opposit camp concerning Titanic ....???? . Edited December 13, 2020 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said: Which "sovereignty" are you referring to ? The sovereign right to make our own rules. That was one of the things Brexit was about right? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Rookiescot said: The sovereign right to make our own rules. That was one of the things Brexit was about right? If we agree to any E.U demands , that will indeed be making our own rules That would be our choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said: If we agree to any E.U demands , that will indeed be making our own rules That would be our choice No. I'm talking about the WTO. Are you expecting to go into the WTO and start telling them what you will and will not accept? ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Rookiescot said: No. I'm talking about the WTO. Are you expecting to go into the WTO and start telling them what you will and will not accept? ???? No, the WTO rules are clearly stated and already agreed upon , there will be no discussion or negotiating , it will be an over ready transition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surelynot Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: No, the WTO rules are clearly stated and already agreed upon , there will be no discussion or negotiating , it will be an over ready transition So a real loss of sovereignty .......no discussion or negotiating......we need to have a vote and withdraw from these onerous rules imposed on us by an unelected body....(as soon as we have joined). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted December 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: No, the WTO rules are clearly stated and already agreed upon , there will be no discussion or negotiating , it will be an over ready transition So we will have to abide by the rules set by a bunch of unelected Johnny Foreigners? Wow. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Rookiescot said: So we will have to abide by the rules set by a bunch of unelected Johnny Foreigners? Wow. Its a World agreement , which we have agreed to . We are a member of the WTO and happily abide by the rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Its a World agreement , which we have agreed to . We are a member of the WTO and happily abide by the rules So handing over some of our sovereignty to the WTO who then dictate the rules we have to abide by and we have no say in what those rules are is preferable to having remained in the EU where we had a say on what the rules were? Taking back control? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Surelynot said: So a real loss of sovereignty .......no discussion or negotiating......we need to have a vote and withdraw from these onerous rules imposed on us by an unelected body....(as soon as we have joined). We joined the WTO in 1995 and were members of the proceeding GATT since 1948 . The discussions and negotiations finished in 1995 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said: Comparing Brexit with the Titanic ? I will raise you a : Comparing Brexit to World War 2 , they both took about the same amount of time and the end results are the same . Europe got their freedom back and the UK was in financial ruins for years? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Rookiescot said: So handing over some of our sovereignty to the WTO who then dictate the rules we have to abide by and we have no say in what those rules are is preferable to having remained in the EU where we had a say on what the rules were? Taking back control? The UK is part of this World , having agreements with other Countries in the world is no loss to sovereignty . The whole World agreed to the WTO terms , why should the UK be any different ? The loss of sovereignty in regards to the E.U was the lack of control of our borders , the WTO agreement doesnt dictate to us who can and cannot enter the UK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said: The UK is part of this World , having agreements with other Countries in the world is no loss to sovereignty . The whole World agreed to the WTO terms , why should the UK be any different ? The loss of sovereignty in regards to the E.U was the lack of control of our borders , the WTO agreement doesnt dictate to us who can and cannot enter the UK It works both ways. If its no issue to have a no deal why is it taking years to leave. Just leave. Instead the UK has been trying for a deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Susco said: No he only isn't in denial about something that made the headlines. https://www.euronews.com/2020/12/11/boris-johnson-snubbed-by-merkel-and-macron-after-requesting-phone-calls-about-brexit-deal UK prime minister Boris Johnson tried to set up calls with German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French president Emmanuel Macron to discuss a Brexit deal but was rebuffed to present a united front, it has emerged. Johnson attempted to arrange calls with the leaders of the European Union's two biggest economies on Monday ahead of his crunch talks over dinner with European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen in Brussels. A senior EU official confirmed that the request had been made but that the UK premier had been refused and told that all negotiations must be done through the European Commission. Classic EU intransigence. Is anyone surprised ? Zese are zee rules. You muzt comply wiz zeze rulez or face zee consequence Mizterr Johnson. Fair play to Boris for thinking outside the box to get a deal done but this is the Franco German led protectionist racket we are dealing with. Lucky he had his papers with him or he might still be there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Classic EU intransigence. Is anyone surprised ? Zese are zee rules. You muzt comply wiz zeze rulez or face zee consequence Mizterr Johnson. Fair play to Boris for thinking outside the box to get a deal done but this is the Franco German led protectionist racket we are dealing with. Lucky he had his papers with him or he might still be there. And now having our trade dictated to us by unelected foreigners in the WTO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Classic EU intransigence. Is anyone surprised ? Zese are zee rules. You muzt comply wiz zeze rulez or face zee consequence Mizterr Johnson. Fair play to Boris for thinking outside the box to get a deal done but this is the Franco German led protectionist racket we are dealing with. Lucky he had his papers with him or he might still be there. Sadly for Boris the "divide and rule " had no chance this time .....? as decades of English diplomacy was before Edited December 13, 2020 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sujo said: It works both ways. If its no issue to have a no deal why is it taking years to leave. Just leave. Instead the UK has been trying for a deal. We have left, we left left the E.U on 20 th January 2020 . It does work both ways , why are the E.U continuing with talks ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: And now having our trade dictated to us by unelected foreigners in the WTO. You posted that 20 minutes ago, using slightly different words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: The UK is part of this World , having agreements with other Countries in the world is no loss to sovereignty . The whole World agreed to the WTO terms , why should the UK be any different ? The loss of sovereignty in regards to the E.U was the lack of control of our borders , the WTO agreement doesnt dictate to us who can and cannot enter the UK But the WTO rules are dictated to us. We cannot change them. We get no say. But now we get to the crux of the matter eh? Brexit is all about immigration which is something you Brexiteers have always strenuously denied. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted December 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said: You posted that 20 minutes ago, using slightly different words Because you keep skirting the issue. Why is it preferable to have rules dictated to us when as part of the EU we got a say in the rules? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: We have left, we left left the E.U on 20 th January 2020 . It does work both ways , why are the E.U continuing with talks ? Because Boris fooled us ....promised walking away .... but never did .... keeps coming and above all ....phoning Merkel ,Macron & Ursula VDL for diners appointments ???? Edited December 13, 2020 by david555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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