UK tells EU: back down by Sunday night or we'll walk

[Rookiescot]

21 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I will ask again. Where did I say it's "nothing to do with immigration?"

 

If you can't provide a quote where I said that don't bother replying.

So for you it is about immigration?

While you live in Thailand.

As a migrant. 

[placeholder]

So much for the UK's ultimatum.

 

Deadline for Brexit Trade Talks Is Extended. Again.
Britain and the European Union agreed to give the seemingly intractable negotiations yet more time in an attempt to strike a deal and avoid a disruptive no-deal outcome before Dec. 31.

Deadline for Brexit Trade Talks Is Extended. Again. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

[vinny41]

Surge of supertrawlers off UK before Brexit killing dolphins and destroying fish stocks, say ocean activists

Ten industrial-scale fishing vessels home in on Channel – and may still legally go in Marine Protected Areas

The fleet, mostly Dutch, started arriving last month, and their numbers gradually swelled to reach 10 on Friday. Two have been there for nearly three weeks – longer than supertrawlers usually stay.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/supertrawlers-brexit-dolphins-fish-coast-channel-b1770356.html

 

EU fisherman Killing Flipper

[david555]

35 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Surge of supertrawlers off UK before Brexit killing dolphins and destroying fish stocks, say ocean activists

Ten industrial-scale fishing vessels home in on Channel – and may still legally go in Marine Protected Areas

The fleet, mostly Dutch, started arriving last month, and their numbers gradually swelled to reach 10 on Friday. Two have been there for nearly three weeks – longer than supertrawlers usually stay.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/supertrawlers-brexit-dolphins-fish-coast-channel-b1770356.html

 

EU fisherman Killing Flipper

probably .... but lucky U.K. fisherman has nets with holes big enough to let a Dolphin escape if cached in his  net ..?? ???? 

???? ???? 

Edited December 13, 2020 by david555

[vinny41]

9 minutes ago, david555 said:

probably .... but lucky U.K. fisherman has nets with holes big enough to let a Dolphin escape if cached in his  net ..?? ???? 

???? ???? 

On the Dutch super trawlers

On Friday, volunteers with the Brighton Dolphin Project found a porpoise washed up with its tail having been cut off. 

Animals such as porpoises that drown in the giant nets are cut out of them when hauled in so that they do not damage the nets. They are then thrown overboard.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/supertrawlers-brexit-dolphins-fish-coast-channel-b1770356.html

 

Dutch Fisherman Killing Flipper

[oldhippy]

51 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Surge of supertrawlers off UK before Brexit killing dolphins and destroying fish stocks, say ocean activists

Ten industrial-scale fishing vessels home in on Channel – and may still legally go in Marine Protected Areas

The fleet, mostly Dutch, started arriving last month, and their numbers gradually swelled to reach 10 on Friday. Two have been there for nearly three weeks – longer than supertrawlers usually stay.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/supertrawlers-brexit-dolphins-fish-coast-channel-b1770356.html

 

EU fisherman Killing Flipper

Good to hear that you have been converted to an environmentalist.

Any comments on chlorinated chickens?

 

[david555]

10 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

On the Dutch super trawlers

On Friday, volunteers with the Brighton Dolphin Project found a porpoise washed up with its tail having been cut off. 

Animals such as porpoises that drown in the giant nets are cut out of them when hauled in so that they do not damage the nets. They are then thrown overboard.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/supertrawlers-brexit-dolphins-fish-coast-channel-b1770356.html????

 

Dutch Fisherman Killing Flipper

My reaction was  that this can...,and shall also happen with U.K. fisherman ships also...., or don't they have no screws blades / propellers  or they just sail ...? ???? ... it shall  also happen with U.K. fishing ships , dreadful  but can happen .

Hence my bad joke (for the Dolphins ..) " big holes " but than no fish ever stay's in ????

Edited December 13, 2020 by david555

[oldhippy]

There is a resemblance between Dutch ships hurrying up for catching the last fish, and UK nationals hurrying up applying for EU citizenship.

[Hi from France]

5 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  OK, I am willing to listen , what percentage of leavers wanted to "completely leave " ?

I take it you know the answer to that and that you are telling the truth , I would have to think you were lying.

So, what percentage of leavers wanted to leave completely ?

 

didn't see you coming back with data, well I got some for you: apparently, you're part of the 17%

 

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The latest polling suggests that only a small minority of voters – just one in six – supports a no-deal outcome

 

@CorpusChristie

 

https://bit.ly/2Kj67jO

[david555]

2 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

There is a resemblance between Dutch ships hurrying up for catching the last fish, and UK nationals hurrying up applying for EU citizenship.

They both have the  quota's in mind .....to achieve them in time ????

[david555]

42 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

On the Dutch super trawlers

On Friday, volunteers with the Brighton Dolphin Project found a porpoise washed up with its tail having been cut off. 

Animals such as porpoises that drown in the giant nets are cut out of them when hauled in so that they do not damage the nets. They are then thrown overboard.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/supertrawlers-brexit-dolphins-fish-coast-channel-b1770356.html

 

Dutch Fisherman Killing Flipper

a  trip on the Dutch  Frank bonefaas , the one fishing in   U.K. waters , is complete factory fishing , preparing and freezing the fish on ship .....Dutch brinkmanship in fishing quotas sold by U.K. gov. to Dutch owner(s) for good money 

 

And many several ones about the big fishing ships 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ftank+bonefaas+fishing+ship

 

 

Edited December 13, 2020 by david555

[vinny41]

51 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

Good to hear that you have been converted to an environmentalist.

Any comments on chlorinated chickens?

 

Does the EU kill chlorinated chickens by cutting their tails off

[CorpusChristie]

47 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

 

didn't see you coming back with data, well I got some for you: apparently, you're part of the 17%

 

 

@CorpusChristie

 

https://bit.ly/2Kj67jO

 

   Too late for all that , we voted to leave , up to our Government exactly how we leave .

BTW, we have left already

[CorpusChristie]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

So for you it is about immigration?

While you live in Thailand.

As a migrant. 

 

  ............Says the fervent Scottish independence  guy...........living in Thailand 

[CorpusChristie]

5 hours ago, oldhippy said:

QUOTE: It was either stay or leave 

 

No, it was not.

That is what the extremists made of it.

 

  Didnt you read what was written on the referendum ballot paper ?

Stay or leave was the only question asked 

[oldhippy]

38 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Does the EU kill chlorinated chickens by cutting their tails off

No, and the EU does not feed them to THEIR lower classes - lower classes that are better off then the UK middle classes, just look at the pensions.

[CorpusChristie]

1 hour ago, oldhippy said:

Good to hear that you have been converted to an environmentalist.

Any comments on chlorinated chickens?

 

 

   We can reject them , if we dont want them . 

I dont see many Americans dying of Chlorinated chickenitus 

[oldhippy]

1 hour ago, david555 said:

a  trip on the Dutch  Frank bonefaas , the one fishing in   U.K. waters , is complete factory fishing , preparing and freezing the fish on ship .....Dutch brinkmanship in fishing quotas sold by U.K. gov. to Dutch owner(s) for good money 

 

And many several ones about the big fishing ships 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ftank+bonefaas+fishing+ship

 

 

You wrote in bold: fishing quotas sold by U.K. gov. to Dutch owner(s) for good money 

 

Why bother???

 

If it is not written on a red bus, the 52% will not believe it.

[oldhippy]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   We can reject them , if we dont want them . 

I dont see many Americans dying of Chlorinated chickenitus 

or covid ?

[CorpusChristie]

5 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

No, and the EU does not feed them to THEIR lower classes - lower classes that are better off then the UK middle classes, just look at the pensions.

 

  Hopefully the UK will stop paying for Greeks tax evaders and start paying UK pensioners a decent amount 

[CorpusChristie]

Just now, oldhippy said:

or covid ?

 

  Errm , that doesnt follow , makes no sense .

What does chlorinated chickens have to do with Covid ?

[oldhippy]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Hopefully the UK will stop paying for Greeks tax evaders and start paying UK pensioners a decent amount 

Really?

Do you think Bojo and the assorted hiso will ever pay the UK pensioners a decent amount?

Or apply EU standard labour laws???

[oldhippy]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Errm , that doesnt follow , makes no sense .

What does chlorinated chickens have to do with Covid ?

Once a negationist, always a negationist.

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, oldhippy said:

Good to hear that you have been converted to an environmentalist.

Any comments on chlorinated chickens?

 

Looks the same. Tastes the same. And it’s cheaper!!

Winner winner chicken dinner. 

[oldhippy]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

Looks the same. Tastes the same. And it’s cheaper!!

Winner winner chicken dinner. 

SAD!

[Hi from France]

36 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Too late for all that , we voted to leave , up to our Government exactly how we leave .

BTW, we have left already

the UK did leave, but as this poll indicates, a lot of the people who voted leave discover now they have been fooled

 

 

 

 

 

 

as i'm allowed three short quotes about how that came to pass, let's go

 

 David Gauke former cabinet minister in Theresa May’s government

Quote

“There were two incompatible promises which were made to the public by the Vote Leave side, One was that there would be very little economic dislocation as a result of Brexit, with the UK retaining very good access to the EU market, and the other that sovereignty would be regained as we took back control of all our laws and our borders.”

 

Another former cabinet minister :

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“Essentially, the same tension that dogged our entire membership and drove us to Brexit has now driven us on to the rocks of no deal. We wanted the benefits of the European project and single market, but increasingly did not want to play by the rules that govern it if that meant ceding sovereignty.”

 

 David Gauke again

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“Boris Johnson feels compelled to deliver something so appalling that, had it been clear in 2016, the referendum would have been a landslide in favour of remaining.”

 

 

source : https://www.theguardian.com/focus/2020/dec/13/britain-harsh-realities-no-deal-brexit-eu-uk

 

 

so as you say "it's too late", yes it is

 

 

 

I suppose you will tell us you are proud now ???? .

[oldhippy]

Europe demands a level playing field.

Actually.....

I would be thrilled with a level intellectual playing field on this thread.

 

Edited December 13, 2020 by oldhippy
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[GrandPapillon]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

So much for the UK's ultimatum.

 

Deadline for Brexit Trade Talks Is Extended. Again.
Britain and the European Union agreed to give the seemingly intractable negotiations yet more time in an attempt to strike a deal and avoid a disruptive no-deal outcome before Dec. 31.

Deadline for Brexit Trade Talks Is Extended. Again. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Boris is desperate for that deal and it's starting to show

 

his little bluff didn't work with the EU, we Europeans are not as gullible as the British voters ????

[CorpusChristie]

11 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

the UK did leave, but as this poll indicates, a lot of the people who voted leave discover now they have been fooled

 

 

  Which "poll" was that ?

The link doesnt show up 

Hope you're not lying about that poll 

[Hi from France]

22 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

What does chlorinated chickens have to do with Covid ?

cheap unhealthy chicken  ->    Junk food    ->    obesity & diabetes

 

obesity & diabetes + Codiv-19 = death