U.S. to ship around 4.7 million vaccine doses next week -U.S. Army General

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U.S. to ship around 4.7 million vaccine doses next week -U.S. Army General

By Carl O'Donnell and Lisa Baertlein

 

FILE PHOTO: U.S. Army General Gustave Perna testifies before the Senate Armed Services Committee during his confirmation hearing to co-lead Operation Warp Speed, an effort to find a vaccine for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in the Dirksen Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill, in Washington, U.S. June 18, 2020. Chip Somodeville/Pool via REUTERS

 

(Reuters) -The U.S. government and its partners will distribute 4.67 million doses of Pfizer Inc and Moderna Inc's COVID-19 vaccine next week, bringing the total number of doses slated for shipment this year to around 20 million, U.S. Army General Gustave Perna said on Wednesday.

 

Perna said some deliveries of the first 20 million doses will drag on until the first week of January. Administering all those doses to patients could take even longer, U.S. Operation Warp Speed chief adviser Dr. Moncef Slaoui said.

 

"The commitment that we can make is to make vaccine doses available," Slaoui said told a press call. "How fast the ramp ups of immunizations, the shots in arms, is happening is slower than we thought it would be."

 

Healthcare workers in the United States have given around 1 million shots so far, a fraction of the total that have been shipped, according to public data. U.S. officials said that data on vaccinations is operating at a lag of several days.

 

The United States is on track to vaccinate 100 million Americans by the end of March, officials said, noting that other drugmakers are expected to receive authorization in the coming months and boost availability of shots.

 

Johnson & Johnson could receive emergency authorization by late January and could be distributing shots by February, Slaoui said. AstraZeneca Plc's vaccine could be authorized in the United States by late February or early March, he added.

 

(Reporting by Carl O'Donnell in New York, Lisa Baertlein in Los Angeles and Manojna Maddipatla in Bengaluru; Editing by Leslie Adler and Richard Pullin)

 

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[ChouDoufu]

sure, ship all you want.  problem is the logistics don't exist to distribute the vaccine effectively.

 

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/millions-u-vaccine-doses-sit-202751315.html

[Kelsall]

We could use some of that vaccine here in Thailand, pronto.

[Lacessit]

Drop in the bucket, they need to vaccinate at least 165 million people in the US to start making any headway.

[Scott]

A post with an unsubstantiated claim and reply removed.

 

[sirineou]

On 12/24/2020 at 7:44 AM, Lacessit said:

Drop in the bucket, they need to vaccinate at least 165 million people in the US to start making any headway.

Not necessarily.

" nursing home residents and staff have comprised over 39 percent of deaths.Dec 8, 2020 "

https://www.nbcnews.com/know-your-value/feature/39-covid-19-deaths-have-occurred-nursing-homes-many-could-ncna1250374

 

 "Only 4.5 percent (about 1.5 million) of older adults live in nursing homes and 2 percent (1 million) in assisted living facilities.  "

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK51841/#:~:text=Only 4.5 percent (about 1.5,million) live in the community.

 

So by vaccinating only 6.5% of the population you can reduce the death rate by almost 40% .such a reduction aside from the lives saved, would significantly reduce the load in hospitals, resulting in better outcomes for the remaining population.

So in that respect a few million vaccinations could have a very positive result. 

[Susco]

19 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Not necessarily.

" nursing home residents and staff have comprised over 39 percent of deaths.Dec 8, 2020 "

https://www.nbcnews.com/know-your-value/feature/39-covid-19-deaths-have-occurred-nursing-homes-many-could-ncna1250374

 

 "Only 4.5 percent (about 1.5 million) of older adults live in nursing homes and 2 percent (1 million) in assisted living facilities.  "

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK51841/#:~:text=Only 4.5 percent (about 1.5,million) live in the community.

 

So by vaccinating only 6.5% of the population you can reduce the death rate by almost 40% .such a reduction aside from the lives saved, would significantly reduce the load in hospitals, resulting in better outcomes for the remaining population.

So in that respect a few million vaccinations could have a very positive result. 

 

 

Now could you also add what percentage of the deaths were of the age that stays in nursing homes?

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1 minute ago, Susco said:

 

 

Now could you also add what percentage of the deaths were of the age that stays in nursing homes?

Seniors outside of nursing homes are high in priority, too.

CDC panel: Frontline workers, 75-plus seniors should get Covid shots next

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/20/who-gets-covid-shots-next-449358

[Susco]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Seniors outside of nursing homes are high in priority, too.

CDC panel: Frontline workers, 75-plus seniors should get Covid shots next

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/20/who-gets-covid-shots-next-449358

 

But that was not my question.

 

My question was, how many of those seniors have died

[sirineou]

34 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

But that was not my question.

 

My question was, how many of those seniors have died

39% of all deaths in the US are of nursing home residents and those who work there , Since the most common complaint in nursing homes is under stuffing, and since nursing stuff is younger, I am willing to bet that the majority  of nursing home deaths are of residents 

   My only intend of originally  mentioning the above is to make the point that small targeted number of inoculations can have a positive  effect if directed at the appropriate demographic. Not only towards that demographic but also towards the general population by releasing resources  consumed by that targeted demographic, in this case the elderly in nursing homes. 

I mean think about what effect reducing the death count by 39% would have on the whole scheme of things, add to that other mitigating factors and the covid 19  morbidity rate   can be cut in half without achieving herd immunity.  That IMO is significant. 

[Pattaya Spotter]

Shipping is one thing...administering is another. It's not like those "miracle of vaccines" films we all saw in primary school where there is an assembly line of people in some poor African country being quickly vaccinated one after another against some dreaded disease. With the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, there's a bunch of legalistic paperwork to be signed and warnings to be given before it is administered (yes, that's the kind of society we've become) and the person has to stay at the facility for observation 15-30 minutes after being pricked. I have read reports that some vaccination sites (hospitals and large nursing homes) are doing as few as a hundred shots a day, and that unused vaccine vials are piling-up in their cold storage facilities. At this rate, it's gonna be a loooong while before everyone is vaccinated. 

Edited December 25, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter