UK and EU reach Brexit trade deal

[Surelynot]

38 minutes ago, david555 said:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1387068/michel-barnier-news-brexit-uk-EU-trade-deal-european-union-warning-latest-vn

Gloating Michel Barnier mocks Brexit Britain as he issues warning not to quit EU bloc
MICHEL BARNIER mocked Britain and issued a warning to the remaining European Union states that Brexit has demonstrated the danger of quitting the trading bloc.

By SVAR NANAN-SEN
PUBLISHED: 11:17, Thu, Jan 21, 2021 | UPDATED: 12:14, Thu, Jan 21, 2021

The European Union's Chief Brexit Negotiator was speaking at European Movement Ireland's European of the Year Award ceremony. Michel Barnier stated that Brexit did not trigger the end of the European Union as some people predicted but instead strengthen the unity within the trading bloc. 

 

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The language...... 'Gloating'....'Mocks'....'Mocked'...it is disgusting.........the Fox News of the UK

[Histavia]

..and remember th current UK / EU trade deal only covers goods. 80% of UK GDP is services which are not covered. Hence the problems for musicians. Sevices also include finance, banking and intellectual properties. much of this needs free movement of labour which has ended.

Edited January 21, 2021 by Histavia

[vinny41]

4 minutes ago, Histavia said:

..and remember th current UK / EU trade deal only covers goods. 80% of UK GDP is services which are not covered. Hence the problems for musicians. Sevices also include finance, banking and intellectual properties. much of this needs free movement of labour which has ended.

Roger Daltrey on Brexit

https://news.sky.com/video/roger-daltrey-not-impressed-by-brexit-question-11666728

[Surelynot]

Just now, vinny41 said:

Roger Daltrey on Brexit

https://news.sky.com/video/roger-daltrey-not-impressed-by-brexit-question-11666728

Yes I can see him filling in paper work to tour...... what a small lump of butter his is.

[candide]

5 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Yes I can see him filling in paper work to tour...... what a small lump of butter his is.

We won't get fooled again! Lol!

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

The language...... 'Gloating'....'Mocks'....'Mocked'...it is disgusting.........the Fox News of the UK

I should write a stiff letter to the editor if I were as disgusted as you. 

[Surelynot]

Just now, Loiner said:

I should write a stiff letter to the editor if I were as disgusted as you. 

You know.....I think I might.

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, Histavia said:

..and remember th current UK / EU trade deal only covers goods. 80% of UK GDP is services which are not covered. Hence the problems for musicians. Sevices also include finance, banking and intellectual properties. much of this needs free movement of labour which has ended.

We don’t care about moaning musicians. If they are any good they can get a visa. 

We do care about free movement of labour and the end of euro migration into U.K.  

[Surelynot]

Just now, Loiner said:

We don’t care about moaning......

Musicians

Fishermen

Road hauliers

Lorry drivers

EU Expats

Students

Farmers

Industrialists 

Holiday makers

 

[Loiner]

3 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Musicians

Fishermen

Road hauliers

Lorry drivers

EU Expats

Students

Farmers

Industrialists 

Holiday makers

 

You can add one to your list:

 Remainer posters in foreign lands. 

[david555]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

The language...... 'Gloating'....'Mocks'....'Mocked'...it is disgusting.........the Fox News of the UK

Yes , they are in a full offensive  ..... so " happy..."  with the brexit deal ......, the happiness is dripping out their news lines .....????

And should read the comments on it .....steam is coming out of all those brexiteers their noses and ears .... from now realizing what brexit really means in consequences ....????

[vinny41]

French truckers call for strike action over effects of Covid rules and Brexit

The unions have called for an urgent meeting with French transport minister Jean-Baptiste Djebbari to address their concerns, saying: "If the government prefers to ignore the distress which affects all of the members of the hauliers branch at suffering successive and brutal degradation of their working conditions due to the health and economic situation that has been prevailing in our country for many months, that is not the case for our unions."

https://www.thelocal.fr/20210120/french-truckers-call-for-strike-action-over-effects-of-covid-rules-and-brexit

[vinny41]

OPINION: Eurostar is a vital service for both France and the UK and should be saved

Eurostar is 10% owned by a British investment firm and 90% by French / Quebec companies, including 55% by state train company SNCF, so they can't expect much help from the UK - they got out in March 2015. Likewise, the "British" freight companies are owned in Germany and Sweden.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20210120/opinion-eurostar-is-a-vital-service-for-both-france-and-the-uk-and-should-be-saved

[vinny41]

IN A RUTTE 

Smug Brexit-bashing Dutch PM Mark Rutte forced to QUIT along with entire cabinet over child benefit scandal

The Dutch tax office also said many of the families were targeted based on their ethnic or dual nationalities. 

Orlando Kadir, an attorney representing around 600 families in a lawsuit against politicians, said people had been targeted "as a result of ethnic profiling by bureaucrats who picked out their foreign-looking names"

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13756230/dutch-pm-mark-rutte-quit-cabinet-benefit/

 

It seems racism and discrimination is rife in the Netherlands 

[Hi from France]

UK insists it will not grant EU ambassador full diplomatic status

 

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The UK has been insisting it will not give the EU ambassador to the UK, João Vale de Almeida, and his 25-strong mission the privileges and immunities afforded to diplomats under the Vienna Convention.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/uk-insists-it-will-not-grant-eu-ambassador-full-diplomatic-status

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Although the UK insists its position is not born of Euroscepticism, the UK is virtually unique in taking this position. The bloc enjoys full diplomatic status with 142 other countries around the world where it has delegations, and where its ambassadors are all granted the same status as diplomats representing sovereign nations.

 

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Lord Adonis, a strongly pro-European Labour peer, said: “Boris Johnson and Dominic Raab have decided not just to leave the EU but to insult it – denying full diplomatic status to the EU ambassador being the latest insult. Very unwise.

 

 

I have to agree and I'd say it's time for a retaliation, any suggestions? 

 

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[CG1 Blue]

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[CG1 Blue]

24 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

I have to agree and I'd say it's time for a retaliation, any suggestions? 

[Loiner]

55 minutes ago, Hi from France said:

UK insists it will not grant EU ambassador full diplomatic status

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/21/uk-insists-it-will-not-grant-eu-ambassador-full-diplomatic-status

 

 

 

I have to agree and I'd say it's time for a retaliation, any suggestions? 

 

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Didn't the EU try to get its' retaliation in first with various punishments? My hopefully helpful suggestion would be to post in the specific thread for it: 

 

 

 

[Hi from France]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Didn't the EU try to get its' retaliation in first with various punishments? My hopefully helpful suggestion would be to post in the specific thread for it: 

 

 

Indeed! see you there 

[Histavia]

5 hours ago, Loiner said:

We don’t care about moaning musicians. If they are any good they can get a visa. 

We do care about free movement of labour and the end of euro migration into U.K.  

I think you'll find there is no way of gauging talent on a visa application....

[tebee]

Billy no mates 

 

This is what the extreme isolationist pure Brexit end up with.

 

Maybe every other country in Europe will be a better place to do business now.

 

  

[bannork]

'Taking back control of our borders' So why are there no Customs checks at Dover, etc? It's a smuggler's paradise!.

£800 lost in VAT and Custom Duties because the government couldn't get a system up and running in time for Brexit.

You couldn't make this sort of stuff up.

[bannork]

8 hours ago, Loiner said:

We don’t care about moaning musicians. If they are any good they can get a visa. 

We do care about free movement of labour and the end of euro migration into U.K.  

I see Roger Daltrey, a Brexit supporter has added his name to a petition asking the government to ensure UK musicians can travel visa free when touring Europe. The EU had indeed offered such a reciprocal proposal but it had been rejected by the UK fearing free movement of people.

You silly billy Roger, voting to damage your own profession. Won't get fooled again, eh?

[bannork]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

'Taking back control of our borders' So why are there no Customs checks at Dover, etc? It's a smuggler's paradise!.

£800 lost in VAT and Custom Duties because the government couldn't get a system up and running in time for Brexit.

You couldn't make this sort of stuff up.

Correction'£800 million lost!

[IvorBiggun2]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

Correction'£800 million lost!

 Could you provide a link to that. I've Googled it and can't find it.

 

2 hours ago, bannork said:

why are there no Customs checks at Dover, etc? It's a smuggler's paradise!.

Same arrangement along the Canadian/US border. Works fine there as well.

[RayC]

5 hours ago, bannork said:

I see Roger Daltrey, a Brexit supporter has added his name to a petition asking the government to ensure UK musicians can travel visa free when touring Europe. The EU had indeed offered such a reciprocal proposal but it had been rejected by the UK fearing free movement of people.

You silly billy Roger, voting to damage your own profession. Won't get fooled again, eh?

 

For which read: When I said that I supported Brexit, I meant that the negative effects shouldn't apply to me or my mates.

 

No doubt sentiments that will be echoed by Brexit supporters in many different industries in the days to come.

[vinny41]

Brexit has given competitive edge on car battery tariffs, says Nissan chief

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan’s chief operating officer, said: “Brexit gives us the competitive advantage not only within the United Kingdom but outside the United Kingdom also.”

Speaking from Nissan’s Yokohama headquarters, Gupta said the Brexit deal had turned out to be positive for the carmaker. The advantage comes because it is not reliant on batteries imported from east Asia, unlike many of its rivals. From 2027 all British and European carmakers will have to source batteries from either the UK or EU, as agreed in the Brexit deal, or face tariffs on their exports.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/22/brexit-has-given-competitive-edge-on-car-battery-tariffs-says-nissan-chief

[Tofer]

On 1/20/2021 at 6:38 PM, bannork said:

The wider stage is the EU, over 40% of our exports.

Now it's the last of the summer wine.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/18/a-multiple-pile-up-in-the-fog-wine-agents-fury-at-brexit-red-tape

 Statistics can easily be selective to show the worst case scenario, but complete the data and it can be seen as a relatively small contribution to the UK economy.

 

Quote from Full Fact - "Goods exports to the EU were worth £170 billion in 2019, 46% of the UK’s total of £370 billion worth of goods exports. UK GDP in 2019 was about £2.2 trillion (£2,200 billion), so goods exported to the EU account for 7.7% of that". 

 

What's more;

 

 

I'd rather be on the upward trajectory stage of world trade than a downward one.

[bannork]

2 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 Could you provide a link to that. I've Googled it and can't find it.

 

Same arrangement along the Canadian/US border. Works fine there as well.

Jim Harra from HMRC explains how the government is prioritizing flow over revenue. The interview is at 2.00

 

[candide]

34 minutes ago, Tofer said:

 Statistics can easily be selective to show the worst case scenario, but complete the data and it can be seen as a relatively small contribution to the UK economy.

 

Quote from Full Fact - "Goods exports to the EU were worth £170 billion in 2019, 46% of the UK’s total of £370 billion worth of goods exports. UK GDP in 2019 was about £2.2 trillion (£2,200 billion), so goods exported to the EU account for 7.7% of that". 

 

What's more;

 

 

I'd rather be on the upward trajectory stage of world trade than a downward one.

(1) That's the exports figure for goods only. Add exports of services and you get £294.3 billion (225.5 in 2015), so it's 13.3% of GDP. Not that small contribution.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/551045/united-kingdom-uk-exports-of-goods-and-services-to-eu/

(2) Economic growth is higher outside EU. However, in any case, It's still better to export to BOTH EU and non-EU zones.