rbmcn Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 14 hours ago, internationalism said: just yesterday they have approved 1.6bln for an unspecified vax, the next weak another 1.17bln for unspecified vax. why this secrecy, lack of transparency? $17 per shot is quite much, the top of what in Europe they are buying (and selling). Already 6bln was spend on astrazeneca. Looks, like another 6bln for this same company. They would be in the second part of 2021. money is flowing fast, but no vaccines If the vaccine origin is not disclosed, the origin is immediately obvious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 11 hours ago, Nout said: And hopefully the leadership like in the USA Leadership that resulted in the deaths of thousands of Americans needlessly? We could do without that... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 15 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Anutin did not identify the manufacturer of Thailand's first batch but said the ministry had negotiated a purchase price of US$17 per dose. Next week it will ask the Cabinet to approve a Bt1.17 billion budget for procurement of the 2 million doses. Correct me if i,m wrong, but has a Budget for Vaccine procurement already been passed.? If it has, what has happened to the original Budget. Why does the Money for these few Vaccines not come from the Budget that has already been approved. This could possibly be a procurement of some Vaccine other than the Oxford one, but ant an inflated price due to the urgency 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newnative Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 As always, a weak effort from the government. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlclark97 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 So far, 2 million doses plus 24 million more soon maybe. Population almost 70 million. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 13 hours ago, misterjames said: They ordered 26 million doses of the Oxford vaccine from UK but I speculate the Oxford vaccine will go to the richest people while the poor will probably get some shady Chinese one. If you follow the recommended precautions like washing hands,wear a mask, social distancing there should be no need to be vaccinated. Bangkok and it's surrounding provinces have water from the tap which is chlorinated perfect for sanitizing around the home..Shower, Wash clothes, wipe over surfaces, mop the floor, wash plates,utensils in the water ,all becomes germ free..The water from the tap is 100% drinkable. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebumbu Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I just hope that after I get the jab, I don't have an erection for 36 hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Percy P said: If you follow the recommended precautions like washing hands,wear a mask, social distancing there should be no need to be vaccinated. Bangkok and it's surrounding provinces have water from the tap which is chlorinated perfect for sanitizing around the home..Shower, Wash clothes, wipe over surfaces, mop the floor, wash plates,utensils in the water ,all becomes germ free..The water from the tap is 100% drinkable. Tap water won't sanitize anything alone. And for sure it's not 100% drinkable. You know the source right? That big polluted river than runs through the middle of town. The delivery system is a bunch of poorly maintained pipes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebumbu Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Percy P said: If you follow the recommended precautions like washing hands,wear a mask, social distancing there should be no need to be vaccinated. Bangkok and it's surrounding provinces have water from the tap which is chlorinated perfect for sanitizing around the home..Shower, Wash clothes, wipe over surfaces, mop the floor, wash plates,utensils in the water ,all becomes germ free..The water from the tap is 100% drinkable. Great. So, you're willing to wear a medical band refusing Covid treatment and carry a DNR statement -- just in case, right? I'm sure you have the courage of your convictions. Edited January 1, 2021 by Ebumbu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 The good news is the Astrazeneca shots only need to be chilled. The bad news is that after two shots the max protection is 70%. So not as effective as the others. 2 shots @ $17 = a few drinks. Better than paying for a hospital intensive care stay? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spilornis Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Serum the major producer of the AZ vaccine in India has a production capacity of almost 100 million doses a month starting this month. A delivery of 2 million to Thailand in February is not impossible and if anything seems light. India will keep a lot of Serum's production but physically it probably cannot deliver more than 50 million doses to its population per month.There's a lot to go around. The AZ vaccine is also made elsewhere including the UK and Australia. Judging from the Australian reports you need about 3 months to brew your first commercial batch and then it's business as usual.(Over simplified I know.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNROAMIN Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 12 hours ago, RR2020 said: In my view this is for sure a Chinese vaccine. Nobody else can offer anything........... Pfizer, Moderna and Ox/Az are all booked up. Russian has limited Sputnik and not exporting yet. Only China is looking for guinea pigs to tests its many many vaccines on. CCP force test on own people regardless of what the side effects are. I certainly wont be getting a vaccine from the CCP. No time for bullies and thugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 17 hours ago, snoop1130 said: He has instructed the Food and Drug Administration to prepare regulations for the vaccine's approval. you think Thai FDA will do clinical trial or lab test to see if it i safe for the precious THAI people or just put an OK stamp & collect payment for their services ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 hours ago, vandeventer said: If the cost is 17 usds than what will be our price? Will it be the same price for everyone? Ill let you know as soon as the health minister gets back to me! ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 I thought AZ was supposed to make Thailand their regional center for vaccine production. What happened? Why is Thailand ordering from abroad? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beechboy Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 Thailand is dragging it's feet over this vital matter. We have to hope that it doesn't come back to haunt them The UK has already reached the milestone of 1m Pfizer inoculations. It will begin to reel out it's own Oxford vaccine with 500, 000 doses on Monday. Various reports as to the efficacy of the latter range from 70% into the nineties depending upon the dosage. Apparently this confusion is due to a mix up with Italian trials. There was some initial confusion. It is far cheaper and requires less stringent handling measures. Oxford rings a comforting bell with me; but then I am English. Therefore it would be my vaccine of choice. Nobody pays one penny for it in the UK. That's how it should be. There will be no queue-jumping, no preferential treatment. There is a well planned regime. Mass vaccination has already begun throughout Europe. Ditto Russia. Supplies are being flown throughout the world. The end of February seems ridiculously tardy. Why on earth is this? There are already suggestions of profiteering ... let's hope these are unfounded. Pull your finger out Prayut. This is not a matter of politics or profit, it is about the health of your citizens. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, PatOngo said: Ill let you know as soon as the health minister gets back to me! ???? Is US$17 the cost to the govt and then free to Thai folks? Or, is US$17 paid by each Thai citizen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 'public health volunteers first to receive vaccine' But not employed healthcare providers and medical staffs who must be in contact with covid-19 patients for testing & treatment nor long-term care facility residents and staffs? Thereafter, what about front line employed essential workers and people aged 75 years and older? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations.html Odd priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, scorecard said: Is US$17 the cost to the govt and then free to Thai folks? Or, is US$17 paid by each Thai citizen? Please, the minister is a busy man and farang are not highest on his list, when he contacts me, I'll let you know! I would think that 2 million doses for a population of 68 million is as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Srikcir said: 'public health volunteers first to receive vaccine' But not employed healthcare providers and medical staffs who must be in contact with covid-19 patients for testing & treatment nor long-term care facility residents and staffs? Thereafter, what about front line employed essential workers and people aged 75 years and older? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations.html Odd priority. Even in the US, some states are not following the CDC guidelines. Again. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/12/29/covid-vaccine-priority-group-elderly/ Texas, Florida and some other Republican-led states are bucking federal advice to provide early doses of the new coronavirus vaccines to front-line workers, choosing instead to prioritize the elderly — a decision exposing fissures in the nationwide immunization campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmileyCat Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 12 hours ago, misterjames said: Not my words but Anutin's I guess you don't remember what he said about foreigners? Yeh that's why I said it ???? Anutin is right, in a way, farangs are dirty. Why do you think western nations are out of control and now new Brit strain???? 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raccos21 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 https://www.rt.com/op-ed/504625-covid19-flu-disappeared-replaced/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted January 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, SmileyCat said: Anutin is right, in a way, farangs are dirty. Why do you think western nations are out of control and now new Brit strain???? You are new, are'nt you! ???? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 17 hours ago, Jingthing said: Thailand is part of COVAX. Part of their policy is non-transparency. Also keep in mind that these vaccines generally require two doses. So in general, divide by two. So these numbers are needless to say -- NOT IMPRESSIVE. But the opportunity for corruption is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, hotchilli said: But the opportunity for corruption is. Maybe some difficulty negotiating the commission! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffshoreMig Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 17 hours ago, snoop1130 said: ministry had negotiated a purchase price of US$17 per dose. Next week it will ask the Cabinet to approve a Bt1.17 billion budget for procurement of the 2 million doses. Huh. Good (Not) Maths 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jadore Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 sooner the better! Just buy them Thailand and let's get back to normal. Should be free, but 17$ no big deal, just do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, joe jadore said: sooner the better! Just buy them Thailand and let's get back to normal. Should be free, but 17$ no big deal, just do it! 1 million recipients will not get things back to normal! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sametboy2019 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, joe jadore said: sooner the better! Just buy them Thailand and let's get back to normal. Should be free, but 17$ no big deal, just do it! So something that is paramount to opening borders and getting economies rolling again needs to be charged 17$. Makes you wonder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacex Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I'd rather have an antidote. https://www.rt.com/russia/511116-world-first-covid19-antidote/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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