Proving 400k was transferred from overseas - 1 Year Marriage Extension Hua Hin

[lamush]

About to apply for a 1 Year Extension based on marriage/children.  My question relates to the 400,000 baht requirement.  I was provided with a checklist from Hua Hin IO for the 1 year extension that has the requirement:

"The evidence of Transfer money from abroad".

 

 I read in another post that this is not a real requirement/rule and most IO will not ask for this.  But that some offices have tweaked the rules a little.

 

Has anyone gone through the process recently at Hua Hin?  How tough are they with this?

[UKresonant]

From what I've read

For 1, 400000k may not be essential

but 

For [2 & 3]  it is mostly essential....

When I was practicing for a possibility of such an income application, as a fall-back option, I understood that the IO would look for two (or three)  months on the first extension, though I read reports of some asking for a full 12 moths (which certainly not make sense for recent arrivals)

Then 12 (or even 13) transfers for subsequent applications.

I had been transferring circa 40000k average per month ( as per the english translation of the rules). I done this by monthly transfers from UK bank to a Thai Bank Sterling FCD account which note the transfer as SWIFT. Not all offices go by the rule average 40k THB, they go by a minimum of 40KTHB monthly. I had back up proof for the source of funds (from savings and payments, well before any chance of becoming Tax Resident there)

 

Someone will be along shortly with experience I would anticipate ! ???? It was only a holiday destination down there ????

[ubonjoe]

Proof the 400k came from abroad is not required.

The line about transfers is for those using transfers from abroad to prove the 40k baht income for that option.

[lamush]

Great thanks guys.  

[lamush]

Was just a little unsure as I know Hua Hin IO has a bit of a reputation.  And the typically ambiguous Thai translations leaves it a little murky.  The order it is listed on the checklist kinda implies that the "The evidence of Transfer money from abroad" refers to the list item above it - the 400k lump sum option.  And I would figure that the Embassy statement by definition would verify that the funds are coming from o/s.  ie an embassy would not sign off on income that has a questionable origin or was being generated in Thailand. 

 

I will submit the application based on the lump sum option.  There has been over 400k in the account for over 6 months.  These funds came from the sale of a property in Thailand.   The funds to buy that property initially came from abroad so that argument is there if things get tricky.

 

From what i have seen and heard re Hua Hin IO they are looking for any excuse to refer you to an agent. 

 

Anyway fingers crossed and see how we go tomorrow.

[ubonjoe]

19 minutes ago, lamush said:

And I would figure that the Embassy statement by definition would verify that the funds are coming from o/s.  ie an embassy would not sign off on income that has a questionable origin or was being generated in Thailand. 

There are 2 options now for the 40k baht income proof now. Proof from a embassy or transfers of 40k baht from abroad that cannot get one from the embassy and I am sure that is what they referring to in number 2.

I have seen no reports of Hua Hin immigration or any office wanting proof the 400k baht came from abroad and it is certainly not in any rule or regulation.

 

[spidermike007]

After many years of using the marriage visa, I have never once encountered this issue. It has never once been a question from anyone. 

[lamush]

Thanks again guys.  I think 2020 has left me a bit of a nervous nellie ????

[worrab]

22 hours ago, lamush said:

From what i have seen and heard re Hua Hin IO they are looking for any excuse to refer you to an agent. 

 

I am not sure where this info is coming from but I can assure you of one thing. Hua Hin is probably one of the best Immigration Offices in the country. They are courteous, helpful and friendly. Never had a problem there and I reckon there are plenty of others who can say the same. You must be thinking of somewhere else!!

[userabcd]

Even if one was to provide evidence that the source of the money was from abroad would not the foreign bank account statement (s) showing transfers from abroad and correlated to bank account receipts in Thailand prove the source of the funds from outside Thailand. It should be very easy to prove this.

[DaLa]

I haven’t used Hua Hin IO for many years, however what Lamush is stating makes sense. Why do Immigration not require No. 2 ‘THE EVIDENCE OF TRANSFER MONEY FROM ABROAD” for the lump sum?

 

Because the agents can’t provide that evidence when they conveniently arrange for the 400k to be in the bank for 1 day.

[userabcd]

23 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

After many years of using the marriage visa, I have never once encountered this issue. It has never once been a question from anyone. 

Exactly, some just not undestanding what is written on the immigration website and what is actually required. Some seem to be actively seeking to motivate immigration to require of them more supporting docs to facilitate a long stay in Thailand.

[Our Man in the Tropics]

Surely an Immigration Office's own written communication to the Applicant that "THE PER MONTH INCOME -- demonstratively sourced from overseas into Thailand -- THROUGHOUT THE 12 MONTHS LEADING UP TO THE APPLICATION BE ON AVERAGE THB 40,000" [ or words-to-that-effect ] obligates that Immigration Office to accept that condition of the Application as being satisfied if it is proven as met by the Applicant ?