Thailand reports 315 new COVID-19 cases

[GeorgeCross]

28 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Come on.  Just saying that since they don't test, they don't really know how many are infected.  They readily admit this themselves.

 

Countries in the west are testing way more than what's done here.  Wonder why? 

 

It's called the positivity rate.  Gives you a better idea of what's really going on...

 

no you come on. they test a lot in the west because, derr, they have a lot of people with symptoms. MILLIONS.

 

thailand has been covid free for 6 months! you can't just start testing whole villages or sois or moo bahns or whatever when there is no infection or track from. this isn't china! (well yet anyway).

 

and when they do find a case? well, how many people did they test when that dj got it on khao san? 3000? all negative. and recently they tested a huge percentage of the migrants on phuket (with no justification i might add) all negative.

 

i'd be the first to line up and be tested if there was a chance i had it or a track to, but i sure as <deleted> wouldn't if 50 tessaban turned up at the bottom of my soi and demanded tests from all of us with no justification.

 

you think the thais would be any more passive?

 

would anybody?

 

[charmonman]

1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said:

No it isn't a big number. On occasions, the UK has been recording daily increases of 35,000 plus. Now that is a big number.

 

It is still a small number compared to most countries but it’s going in the wrong direction 

[Virt]

35 minutes ago, rabas said:

The number they publish is the confirmed infection rate, which is new infections per day. As long as that number is rising, which it is, the pandemic is growing.

 

I think you mean R0 (the R number).  R0 does not depend on how many infections a country already has.  It measures how many new infections one case can create.  Masks, closings, and travel bans help to reduce R.

 

Yeah thanks for correcting that.

[dcnx]

1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said:

No it isn't a big number. On occasions, the UK has been recording daily increases of 35,000 plus. Now that is a big number.

 

Imagine if Thailand tested as much as the UK. You’d see big numbers then, but Thailand isn’t testing anywhere near the numbers of the UK. 

[dcnx]

3 minutes ago, charmonman said:

It is still a small number compared to most countries but it’s going in the wrong direction 

Countries testing more fine more infections. Thailand isn’t testing anywhere near the amount of other countries.

[Antonymous]

More pointless half statistics that will put fear into people.

 

Pointless because without the corresponding number of people tested, against the number found to be carrying Covid antibodies, each day, PLUS details of which provinces were tested, we DON'T KNOW if it is spreading, or if it is increasing.

 

Example (figures made up)

 

Monday 2,000 people tested, 5 positive

Tuesday 6,000 people tested, 15 positive

Wednesday 12,000 people tested, 30 positive

 

So the authorities only give the media the scary half stats that 'cases are more than doubling every day'! Do you see how absurd this is?

 

And we are not told where the tests took place.

Edited January 3, 2021 by Antonymous

[Nout]

1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said:

The previous alcohol ban was for Songkran to stop people traveling and partying. You should have plenty of time to stock up before then. 

No. The last alcohol ban was around the time of the curfew. It was after songkran

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, taninthai said:

The Uk is testing nearly 400,000 per day, Thailand had tested 1.2 million since the start....Uk 54 million since the start

With UK numbers like those no wonder Thailand doesn't want to test that much.

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, bluesofa said:

Doesn't matter, we have rocket scientists now for the moon rocket.

I heard that it wasn't rocket surgery! 

[Antonymous]

3 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

With UK numbers like those no wonder Thailand doesn't want to test that much.

 

This would be funny if it wasn't also true!

 

Of the cases found recently we are also not told if they had any symptoms, or how severe they were.

 

All we know is that ONE person has died and that she had diabetes. It is highly likely that someone with diabetes might have died just as easily from flu!

 

Here's what the CDC say about flu and diabetes:

 

"People with diabetes (type 1, type 2, or gestational), even when well-managed, are at high risk of serious flu complications, which can result in hospitalization and sometimes even death. Pneumonia, bronchitis, sinus infections and ear infections are examples of flu-related complications. In recent seasons, about 30 percent of adult flu hospitalizations reported to CDC have had diabetes."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/highrisk/diabetes.htm

 

[RR2020]

1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said:

No it isn't a big number. On occasions, the UK has been recording daily increases of 35,000 plus. Now that is a big number.

 

 

Tests per day UK compared to Thailand.

 

IF YOU DONT TEST YOU DONT FIND.       

 

 

[FarFlungFalang]

4 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

This would be funny if it wasn't also true!

That's why it's funny.By not testing, the world didn't end for Thailand.Where as in high testing countries it seems like the world is about to end.

[DavisH]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

Unfortunately, probably in the 1000's per day now as they don't test.  But yes, it's going to get worse.

Most must be asymptomatic then. Because only a few ending up in hospital. 

[richard_smith237]

Just now, FarFlungFalang said:

With UK numbers like those no wonder Thailand doesn't want to test that much.

High numbers of covid is only a major issue if there are associated high deaths, or a high incidence of long term impact. 
 

Thailand ‘may’ have had high numbers, it may still have high numbers, without testing we would never know. Thai’s & many ‘East Asians’ may have a genetic advantage due to a missing genetic halapotype rendering then less susceptible to the serious consequences of SARS- CoV-2.

 

Additionally, the lancet highlights a possible 4% false positive on tests in the Uk. 
Thus, of 400,000 tests per day 16,000 of the positive tests ‘could’ be false. 
 

The number of ‘amplification cycles’ of genetic material under covid testing is recommended at less than 35 times. It has been alleged that some test facilities are using much higher amplification cycles. 
It is not common to report the cycle threshold with the results.  
To simply the above comment: it’s much easier to identify Covid-19 from a skeletal strand of Covid-19 rna that has been amplified 100 times, this same skeletal remnant may not have been identifiable with an amplification cycle of less than 35. 

Thus: some countries such as the UK are testing themselves into a panic. 
 

The true metric should be those tested positive with symptoms, hospital admissions and deaths ‘as a direct result of complications due to covid’ (and not just deaths with covid).

 

The world is too far down the rabbit hole & those in positions of decision make power will not back track, that would be political suicide, 

 

However, should common sense have prevailed, and tests and reporting followed a more common sense and accurate approach we might have witnessed a world where Covid-19 is still extremely serious but nowhere close to the degree hysteria we see today. 

 

The pudding has most definitely been ‘over-egged’ !
 

 

 

[DavisH]

14 minutes ago, RR2020 said:

 

Tests per day UK compared to Thailand.

 

IF YOU DONT TEST YOU DONT FIND.       

 

 

This graph tells nothing. Look at hospitalisation rates. The UK tests more because they MUST test more. Sick Thais can't be hidden, unless you think their families are letting them die at home on the hush hush and getting the monks to cremate them. This would be a BIG story in any village and could not be hidden. 

[RR2020]

6 minutes ago, DavisH said:

This graph tells nothing. Look at hospitalisation rates. The UK tests more because they MUST test more. Sick Thais can't be hidden, unless you think their families are letting them die at home on the hush hush and getting the monks to cremate them. This would be a BIG story in any village and could not be hidden. 

 

Thailand does not have lots of obese, diabetic old people.

 

Thailand does not have an NHS which pumps old people full of tablets to keep them alive.

 

Thailand you are fit and live long.........or you are sick and die.

 

In the UK you can be sick and live a long time.

 

The virus is a new virus, so it kills the old and sick.

 

 

In England there has only been 377 Covid deaths of people under 60 years old with no "known" underlying disease in the whole of 2020 up to Dec 16th.

 

You cannot hide a new virus if your population has a lot of sick, old, diabetic, ill people..........the virus will rip through them.

 

If your population has only relatively healthy old people and not many of them..........and most of the population are fit and healthy, it will not have any effect.

 

Look at Singapore..........all those immigrants in dorms with Covid...........yet............basically nobody died, it was just a sore throat and a cough for one day for most of them.

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by RR2020

[cyril sneer]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

Come on.  Just saying that since they don't test, they don't really know how many are infected.  They readily admit this themselves.

only when in critical condition

 

I imagine some villages are over an hour away from a decent hospital, and can't afford the journey there, so try and ride it out at home

[Trujillo]

"315 is a big number. Sadly, It will continue to rise..."

 

Hahaha....oh very big number! Too big! 

 

Oh my god....yes, it's 0.00045% of the population of Thailand, thereabouts. And that's just ONE DAY! What shall we do?

 

What about the total for the whole darn time? 

 

7,694 "cases" (positive tests included, not necessarily sick people) is about 0.01% of the total population of Thailand!

 

YIKES!!!!! Run for the hills! The spikes are coming....this is serious, no joking matter. We need to do something...er, well, let's do what everyone else is doing...how about following California? That seems to be working, right? Those Americans are smarty pants geniuses; they'll know the right thing to do. FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!

 

And I read that you will STILL have to wear a highly protective paper mask even AFTER being vaccinated (to follow the SCIENCE, and PROTECT against the deadly-and-spreading-like-wildfire C-O-V-I-D (dare not say its name out loud). 

[bluesofa]

3 minutes ago, RR2020 said:

Thailand does not have lots of obese, diabetic old people.

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I keep reading about Thai doctors telling the general population to stop consuming so much sugar in their diet, as the number of diabetics is increasing alarmingly.

We all know how much sugar is added to Thai food as they do like the sweet taste.

My friend has two members of his wife's family who have fairly recently become diabetics in their forties.

Plus the fact they are getting less exercise now than they used to (not as much manual work as there was)

[RR2020]

Just now, bluesofa said:

I keep reading about Thai doctors telling the general population to stop consuming so much sugar in their diet, as the number of diabetics is increasing alarmingly.

We all know how much sugar is added to Thai food as they do like the sweet taste.

My friend has two members of his wife's family who have fairly recently become diabetics in their forties.

Plus the fact they are getting less exercise now than they used to (not as much manual work as there was)

 

Sugar is a poison to humans.

 

Cause of many diseases.  Sugar feeds cancer.

 

You dont need to eat any sugar.  

 

However, its addictive, and food manufactures worked this out ages ago.........hence the pumping of everything with loads of sugar.

 

 

[Dagfinnur Traustason]

2 hours ago, John Drake said:

Well, I'm going to remain home as much as possible, because I don't want to get caught in a Covid sweep and forced into quarantine at an expensive hospital I will have to pay for. 

That´s a good idea. Now you´re talking. ????

[markcm19]

the virus is so mild that most people won't notice they have it , there is not a major testing campaign I know of, how are they finding these infections?

[RR2020]

11 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

Yes you will need sugar as well as many other things.

 

You do not need  to eat any refined sugar.

 

You can get carbohydrates from many foods and your body will convert these into the required sugars...........

 

Refined sugar is completely not needed by human beings.

Edited January 3, 2021 by RR2020

[bluesofa]

11 minutes ago, RR2020 said:

Sugar is a poison to humans.

Cause of many diseases.  Sugar feeds cancer.

You dont need to eat any sugar.  

However, its addictive, and food manufactures worked this out ages ago.........hence the pumping of everything with loads of sugar.

Agree absolutely on that. I'd recommend the book 'Salt Sugar Fat' by Michael Moss.

"a breathtaking feat of reporting. Michael Moss was able to get executives of the world's largest food companies to admit that they have only one job—to maximize sales and profits—and to reveal how they deliberately entice customers by stuffing their products with salt, sugar, and fat."

[ThailandRyan]

13 minutes ago, markcm19 said:

the virus is so mild that most people won't notice they have it , there is not a major testing campaign I know of, how are they finding these infections?

They are appearing out of thin air. Did you not pay attention to the clusters and all of the new testing they are doing now.  Maybe your post was sarcasm but who could tell. Yes I am being sarcastic. Test and ye shall find..  

[ourmanflint]

Watching events unfold in Thailand is like watching a car crash in slow motion, unfortunately the brakes went on too late, the wheels are starting to screech and now we are watching seconds before the unavoidable impact

[John Drake]

5 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

Watching events unfold in Thailand is like watching a car crash in slow motion, unfortunately the brakes went on too late, the wheels are starting to screech and now we are watching seconds before the unavoidable impact

 

Maybe still a chance to pull out of it, especially in the north and northeast. Go full lockdown. At this stage at least people are traveling mainly to the infected zone, Bangkok, and not out, like they were last week. So once they're back in, lock things down and hope not too much damage was done outside of Bangkok and the other red alert provinces.

[sapson]

3 hours ago, taninthai said:

, Thailand had tested 1.2 million since the start....Uk 54 million since the start

 

Do you have a source for the Thailand figures?

 

Would really like to know what the daily test numbers are now and where, to put some perspective on the daily positive figures.

 

Sure this information is still elusive.

[natway09]

This enormous increase that just got outa hand is directly related to the Government Officers on the job corrupt

actions coupled with laziness.

A week from now with all the provincial travel with folks returning yesterday & today the mushroom will  become overwhelming

[Rimmer]

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