Ralf001 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, CLW said: I haven't made a test drive yet, but getting closer to the Ford Ranger SC 2.2 4WD. Shares some components with the VW Amarok and top seller worldwide. What components are shared ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: What components are shared ? Google really is your friend....???? https://www.drive.com.au/news/2022-ford-ranger-what-it-means-for-the-new-vw-amarok/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/29/2021 at 11:58 AM, transam said: Google really is your friend....???? https://www.drive.com.au/news/2022-ford-ranger-what-it-means-for-the-new-vw-amarok/ CLW is talking about a 2.2 Ranger, that is current model not the next gen. So once again I ask, what components are shared between it and the Amorok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: CLW is talking about a 2.2 Ranger, that is current model not the next gen. So once again I ask, what components are shared between it and the Amorok. Google really is your friend....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, transam said: Google really is your friend....???? Jeez you are an annoying person. Onto the blocked list you go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: Jeez you are an annoying person. Onto the blocked list you go. Please don't sulk, I have done it for you.....???? https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/volkswagen-deeply-embedded-in-ranger-development-program-since-2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jitar Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Trans, Might take more than that to get you off Ralf's blocked list. Your link is referencing the next gen Ranger and Amarok, not the current models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 9:04 AM, Ralf001 said: CLW is talking about a 2.2 Ranger, that is current model not the next gen. So once again I ask, what components are shared between it and the Amorok. Don't nail me on this, I just did some casual reading. Current and new Ford Ranger have a chassis with internal naming T6. It's designed to fit interior parts from Volkswagen, making the Amarok. I think the AT 10 speed gear will also be used in the next generation Amarok. Any more details, please Google and read by yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 47 minutes ago, CLW said: Don't nail me on this, I just did some casual reading. Current and new Ford Ranger have a chassis with internal naming T6. It's designed to fit interior parts from Volkswagen, making the Amarok. I think the AT 10 speed gear will also be used in the next generation Amarok. Any more details, please Google and read by yourself. Your previous post you called out the 2.2 Ranger which is current model, the 2.2 will not make it into the next gen Ranger (coming end 1st quarter this year). Current T6 platform that is available on the marketplace today is code name P375 and predates the Ford/VW collaboration so has zero VW content. Next Gen Ranger code named P703 carries over the same basic T6 chassis but with significant changes to suspension pickup points, it will share very few components with VW (as sold as a Ranger). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 There is a VERY good reason why Toyota is recognized as a class leader world wide. That being said, Izusu (Mazda) are equally good. Parts cheap, servicing cheap, why would you look anywhere else ? Don't like the seats ? Stereo ? Want 360 camera ? All available in the aftermarket, and electronics much better - both design wise and application wise - than the factory stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 10 hours ago, seedy said: There is a VERY good reason why Toyota is recognized as a class leader world wide. Yeah, right... Just because they can quickly mount antiaircraft guns in the bed of an HJ47 means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 10 hours ago, seedy said: That being said, Izusu (Mazda) are equally good. What's "Isuzu (Mazda)" when it's at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 hours ago, NanLaew said: What's "Isuzu (Mazda)" when it's at home? Same truck with a different badge... Same as the last model Ford [Mazda] was same truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, ignis said: Same truck with a different badge... Same as the last model Ford [Mazda] was same truck Same platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 18 hours ago, seedy said: There is a VERY good reason why Toyota is recognized as a class leader world wide. That being said, Izusu (Mazda) are equally good. Parts cheap, servicing cheap, why would you look anywhere else ? Don't like the seats ? Stereo ? Want 360 camera ? All available in the aftermarket, and electronics much better - both design wise and application wise - than the factory stuff. I think the Ford F-150 continues to be the best selling pickup worldwide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: I think the Ford F-150 continues to be the best selling pickup worldwide Best selling does not mean class leader - it reflects sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Isaanlife Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Isuzu Dmax 4 door. Never had 1 issue, ever. Driven all over Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutoie2 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Nothing on the current pickup truck market floats my boat, all outrageously over priced bloated barges. Come on, over a million Baht for a vehicle still with leaf springs......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 20 hours ago, seedy said: There is a VERY good reason why Toyota is recognized as a class leader world wide. That being said, Izusu (Mazda) are equally good. Parts cheap, servicing cheap, why would you look anywhere else ? Don't like the seats ? Stereo ? Want 360 camera ? All available in the aftermarket, and electronics much better - both design wise and application wise - than the factory stuff. And both brands slammed by recent tests and reviews from automobile journalists. Never seen a Toyota or Isuzu in the winner rankings. But anyone to it's own liking. If you like a car with 20 year old technology and interior, go buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, seedy said: Best selling does not mean class leader - it reflects sales And "class leader" is sales jargon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, CLW said: And both brands slammed by recent tests and reviews from automobile journalists. Never seen a Toyota or Isuzu in the winner rankings. But anyone to it's own liking. If you like a car with 20 year old technology and interior, go buy it. I don't like journalists......???? I prefer real world tried and tested stuff, not a bloke with a cup of Starbucks coffee in his hand looking forward to his pay day....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, transam said: I don't like journalists......???? I prefer real world tried and tested stuff, not a bloke with a cup of Starbucks coffee in his hand looking forward to his pay day....???? Exactly, and virtually every pickup offered here is tried and tested and will likely perform flawlessly. You can't even determine what the best value is, without knowing what is important to the buyer. For example, most everyone knows a "sport" package is typically mostly just an appearance package, yet some buy it and some don't. When someone buys the "sport" package, it does not mean they think they are getting a "sport" truck, it just means that they like the way it looks, and they are willing to pay the upcharge. Some that doe not like the look, or does not care about the look is not willing to pay the extra. To one it's a good value, to the other it is not. I say buy something you like the look and feel of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Look in Africa, the Middle East, most of Asia, especially away from urban centers. See a lot of Fords ? NO - what you see are Toyotas. Why ? And these 'journalists' - where are they ? In the west, where pickups are an urban vehicle. When the going gets tough, the tough get Toyotas. Not some fashion accessory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grin Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 My step daughter and her husband had an Isuzu D-Max diesel that has now passed to my stepson. I've been quite surprised at its handling and comfort. I've driven it a bit and it seems like a nice vehicle. I have ridden as a front seat passenger on trips from Chiang Mai to Bangkok and back and it was comfortable as well. However I've not ridden in the back seat so I can't comment on that. It's never really used for hauling except for luggage and the occasional motorcycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, seedy said: Look in Africa, the Middle East, most of Asia, especially away from urban centers. See a lot of Fords ? NO - what you see are Toyotas. Why ? And these 'journalists' - where are they ? In the west, where pickups are an urban vehicle. When the going gets tough, the tough get Toyotas. Not some fashion accessory. Actually Ford is the second biggest seller in Africa right behind (wait for it) VW. But yeah, if you're watching a TV show or movie about Africa you will likely see all Toyotas. To be clear, I currently own my forth Toyota, but the idea that they build significantly better or more technologically advance products that any other major manufacturer is silly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: Actually Ford is the second biggest seller in Africa right behind (wait for it) VW. But yeah, if you're watching a TV show or movie about Africa you will likely see all Toyotas. To be clear, I currently own my forth Toyota, but the idea that they build significantly better or more technologically advance products that any other major manufacturer is silly. You missed out reliability...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 40 minutes ago, transam said: You missed out reliability...???? In the last thirty years I have had two Fords, four Isuzus and four Toyotas and had not had an issue with any of them. How have I missed out on reliability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: In the last thirty years I have had two Fords, four Isuzus and four Toyotas and had not had an issue with any of them. How have I missed out on reliability? Reliability statistics do not revolve around one blokes rides...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, transam said: Reliability statistics do not revolve around one blokes rides...???? You mean the "statistics" the journalists put together? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: You mean the "statistics" the journalists put together? No, reading these pages for 15 years gives me a pretty good idea about rides in LOS.... PS. You have had 10 rides in LOS and never had an issue, hmmmmm. Were they two week hire cars....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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