webfact Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Investigate every fatality among those vaccinated against COVID-19 – Dr. Yong The deaths of people who die after being injected with COVID-19 vaccines are not always related to the vaccines. There is, therefore, a need to determine whether there is any connection between the deaths and the vaccine, according to well-known Thai virologist Dr. Yong Pooworavan. Citing reports of 23 fatalities among elderly people in Norway, after they were inoculated against COVID-19, the virologist from the Faculty of Medicine at Chulalongkorn University said that it should not be assumed that all the fatalities were related to the vaccine without investigation. From his 30 years of experience studying of vaccines, Dr. Yong said that, even when a person who was vaccinated dies from falling down a manhole, the case must be investigated to find out if side effects from the vaccine led to the fatal fall. Source: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/investigate-every-fatality-among-those-vaccinated-against-covid-19-dr-yong/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2021-01-19 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtco Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: Dr. Yong said that, even when a person who was vaccinated dies from falling down a manhole, the case must be investigated to find out if side effects from the vaccine led to the fatal fall. Do what!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, rtco said: Do what!!! The vaccine may as an example cause giddiness in some people 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jeffr2 Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-18/norway-finds-no-direct-link-between-elderly-deaths-and-vaccine “It is important to remember that about 45 people die every day in nursing homes in Norway, so it is not a given that this represents any excess mortality or that there is a causal connection,” Camilla Stoltenberg, head of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, said at a press conference on Monday. 4 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yorkshire Tea Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, rtco said: Do what!!! Manholes tend to be covered in the real world, but not so in Thailand ???? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Antonymous Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-18/norway-finds-no-direct-link-between-elderly-deaths-and-vaccine “It is important to remember that about 45 people die every day in nursing homes in Norway, so it is not a given that this represents any excess mortality or that there is a causal connection,” Camilla Stoltenberg, head of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, said at a press conference on Monday. Sad isn't it, that people who accept everything the authorities tell them about covid without question will accept the inflated figures that purport to show 'person who died had tested positive for covid' as evidence that they died OF covid ... and yet question stats that suggest that people who died within a week of vaccination died due to the vaccine. 4 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nervona81732 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 50 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-18/norway-finds-no-direct-link-between-elderly-deaths-and-vaccine “It is important to remember that about 45 people die every day in nursing homes in Norway, so it is not a given that this represents any excess mortality or that there is a causal connection,” Camilla Stoltenberg, head of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, said at a press conference on Monday. No just a coincidence hmmmmm! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThomasThBKK Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, nervona81732 said: No just a coincidence hmmmmm! Or chinese propaganda - pick your poison, i know which ones mine and that doesn't start with Sino... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, nervona81732 said: No just a coincidence hmmmmm! That's what they are now saying. 45 people die every day in these nursing homes. No direct connections and they are jabbing people like this contrary to the recommendations from the manufacturer of the jab. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 I think we should all chill, i.e. there are currently 117 vaccines in 47 countries in trial stages, we know of the 8 approved, a few of those are suspect, so why even rush it, could get hit by a car tomorrow. Personally, the more I listen to this stuff, the more I become suspicious, especially when I see video's which I can make up my own mind if they are conspiracy theories or not, noting everytime something that comes up that could have weight, it's taken down, I don't like that, what about people being able to make their own decisions, I don't like a sided version thank you very much. Careful what I say now, or I too might be silenced, the world is a strange place to be in at the moment and I have always been one not to act when not sure, so until I am sure, I ain't getting vaxed, now will governments try and force us by way of us requiring a vax to renew our extensions, will other countries require us to get vaxed to enter their country's, like I said, the world is a strange place to be in. I see some world leaders even old and obese survive Covid without a vax having been developed, what is going on, why the PUSH ? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudorabies Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 The same can be said for any drug in early trials. But we're past that stage and should be focused on looking for trends, not anecdotes. And definitely avoid the trap of scaremongering to distract from government inaction and missteps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joinaman Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 would be good if we started putting on the death certificate, died by vaccine, if vaccine given within 28 days of death Bit like they do with the covid deaths wonder what those figures would be ? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: I think we should all chill, i.e. there are currently 117 vaccines in 47 countries in trial stages, we know of the 8 approved, a few of those are suspect, so why even rush it, could get hit by a car tomorrow. Personally, the more I listen to this stuff, the more I become suspicious, especially when I see video's which I can make up my own mind if they are conspiracy theories or not, noting everytime something that comes up that could have weight, it's taken down, I don't like that, what about people being able to make their own decisions, I don't like a sided version thank you very much. Careful what I say now, or I too might be silenced, the world is a strange place to be in at the moment and I have always been one not to act when not sure, so until I am sure, I ain't getting vaxed, now will governments try and force us by way of us requiring a vax to renew our extensions, will other countries require us to get vaxed to enter their country's, like I said, the world is a strange place to be in. I see some world leaders even old and obese survive Covid without a vax having been developed, what is going on, why the PUSH ? If it's on a video, it's potentially fake news. Stick with the reliable sites. None of which do reporting via videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Joinaman said: would be good if we started putting on the death certificate, died by vaccine, if vaccine given within 28 days of death Bit like they do with the covid deaths wonder what those figures would be ? that's not how they do covid deaths. Don't spread misinformation. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nurseynutcase Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 48 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: that's not how they do covid deaths. Don't spread misinformation. Sorry to correct you but in the UK if you die for any reason within 28 days of having a positive covid test it is put down as a 'covid death' 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaLa Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 So exactly how many people fell down man holes during the trials? That's some contra effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virt Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 hours ago, webfact said: From his 30 years of experience studying of vaccines, Dr. Yong said that, even when a person who was vaccinated dies from falling down a manhole, the case must be investigated to find out if side effects from the vaccine led to the fatal fall. It makes perfect sense if the famous and well known "manhole cover employees" dies from the vaccines, then people will drop into open manholes and die and therefore it's a side-effect of the vaccine. Yes that's what he meant ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoNiaw Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nurseynutcase said: Sorry to correct you but in the UK if you die for any reason within 28 days of having a positive covid test it is put down as a 'covid death' Covid will be included on the death certificate but so will any other contributing factors. UK death certificates don't put a single cause of death (unless there's only one clear cause). Also, the 28 days means that Covid is not counted as a factor in deaths beyond that point, even though there are deaths from the effects of long Covid. Good explanation of how cause of death is attributed and certified:https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/coronavirus-nhs-doctors-death-certificates-conspiracy-theories-a9513981.html Edited January 19, 2021 by KhaoNiaw 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peleid Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I have never trusted anything coming out of China 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Nurseynutcase said: Sorry to correct you but in the UK if you die for any reason within 28 days of having a positive covid test it is put down as a 'covid death' Seems you were corrected above. Spreading misinformation isn't good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 A post suggesting linking to conspiracy troll videos and sites has been removed also a reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post realfunster Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Seems you were corrected above. Spreading misinformation isn't good. Nothing of the sort could be reasonably concluded from what was written above by KhaoNiaw. NurseyNutCase is absolutely correct. In the UK, if COVID is contracted within 28 days prior to death, it is going on the death certificate (which may well include other reasons) and will be therefore be counted as a COVID fatality in the related government statistics. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths Now, why don’t YOU stop spreading misinformation. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbojangles Posted January 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2021 I had my 2nd Pfizer jab a couple of days ago. Not dead and no side effects yet from either the first or second. I'll let you know if I die ???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, realfunster said: Nothing of the sort could be reasonably concluded from what was written above by KhaoNiaw. NurseyNutCase is absolutely correct. In the UK, if COVID is contracted within 28 days prior to death, it is going on the death certificate (which may well include other reasons) and will be therefore be counted as a COVID fatality in the related government statistics. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths Now, why don’t YOU stop spreading misinformation. Understood. But the cause of death isn't just CV19. It's listed along with other possibilities, but it's NOT the only reason. So yes, a bit misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, mrbojangles said: I had my 2nd Pfizer jab a couple of days ago. Not dead and no side effects yet from either the first or second. I'll let you know if I die ???? Great news! And lucky you!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 12 hours ago, webfact said: From his 30 years of experience studying of vaccines, Dr. Yong said that, even when a person who was vaccinated dies from falling down a manhole, the case must be investigated to find out if side effects from the vaccine led to the fatal fall. Has this Guy had some kind of melt down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceruhe Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 If any death pre vaccine can be attributed to covid regardless of other causes, post vaccination deaths should therefore be attributed to the vaccine regardless of other causes. Fair is fair ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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