Analysis - Trump's legacy: A more divided America, a more unsettled world

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1 minute ago, ExpatOK said:

Do yourself a favor and watch this video so you can develop a heart of gratitude for the greatest president ever. He lays out his administration's accomplishments in a clear concise way.

 

Look at the facts and let go of the hate.

What is it about people on the right who consistently recommend videos over the written word? Are they emulating Trump's aversion to reading?

[PatOngo]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

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IMO you will still be hearing about Trump for a very long time as CNN etc need to keep talking about him to keep their ratings up.

Also he'll be involved in primaries in 2022 and hopefully back as POTUS in 2024.

 

Resist 46.

We can only hope that Mitch McConnell leads the Reps in impeaching the clown so he can never spread his moronic venom again! Onward and upward, Joe, make America credible again!  

[Jeffr2]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

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IMO you will still be hearing about Trump for a very long time as CNN etc need to keep talking about him to keep their ratings up.

Also he'll be involved in primaries in 2022 and hopefully back as POTUS in 2024.

 

Resist 46.

Horrible thing to say.  Resist 46.  People like you are the ones causing problems in our democracy. 

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[OneMoreFarang]

7 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

We can only hope that Mitch McConnell leads the Reps in impeaching the clown so he can never spread his moronic venom again! Onward and upward, Joe, make America credible again!  

He should! But will he? And will at least enough of the GOP senators grow a spine and impeach Trump?

What should we think about senators who still support a president who started an insurrection?

They all should be in jail.

[Jeffr2]

18 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

Do yourself a favor and watch this video so you can develop a heart of gratitude for the greatest president ever. He lays out his administration's accomplishments in a clear concise way.

 

Look at the facts and let go of the hate.

What video?  Having a hard time coming up with a credible link to back up your false claims? 

 

We're waiting....

[PatOngo]

21 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

Do yourself a favor and watch this video so you can develop a heart of gratitude for the greatest president ever. He lays out his administration's accomplishments in a clear concise way.

 

Look at the facts and let go of the hate.

Dream on, the man has proven time and again that he's a buffoon and a chronic liar and failure! Of course he lays out his "accomplishments" as he will ALWAYS be in denial about his failures! Why do you think the MAJORITY voted him out of office after one term???

 

 

Edited January 20, 2021 by PatOngo

[Jeffr2]

17 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Did trump hold rallys during lockdown in the summer? I only remember the blm protests here ( uk) and usa,anyway no need to play the race card.

You should do some research first.  Seems lacking with the Trump's supporters.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_post-2016_election_Donald_Trump_rallies

[Jeffr2]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/nyregion/protesters-blaming-trump-pardon.html

 

‘I Answered the Call of My President’: Rioters Say Trump Urged Them On

 

The defense from Trump supporters arrested in the Capitol assault is emerging in court papers and interviews — and could play a role in impeachment proceedings.

 

In the two weeks since a raging mob stormed the Capitol, President Trump has shown no sign that he believes he shares responsibility for the worst incursion on the halls of Congress in more than two centuries. Shielding him further, his loyalists have started shifting blame for the attack to an array of distracting bogeymen: far-left anti-fascists, Black Lives Matter activists, even vague conspiracies of a setup involving Vice President Mike Pence

[OneMoreFarang]

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

21 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

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IMO you will still be hearing about Trump for a very long time as CNN etc need to keep talking about him to keep their ratings up.

Also he'll be involved in primaries in 2022 and hopefully back as POTUS in 2024.

 

Resist 46.

Horrible thing to say.  Resist 46.  People like you are the ones causing problems in our democracy.  Shame on you.

 

Imagine for 4 years you were a Trump fan boy. And you ignored facts for all that time. What could possibly change the mind and thinking of such a person? More facts? More Trump lies?

If such a person would wake up and denounce Trump he would have to realize what he did in the last years.

How many people want to wake up and admit that they were stupid and ignorant for years?

[J Town]

20 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

Do yourself a favor and watch this video so you can develop a heart of gratitude for the greatest president ever. He lays out his administration's accomplishments in a clear concise way.

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You mean like building the wall that Mexico was going to pay for?

You mean like jailing Hillary?

You mean like destroying ISIS?

You mean like releasing his taxes?

You mean like repealing/replacing Obamacare?

You mean like opening up libel laws?

You mean like not having enough time to play golf?

You mean like bringing back 50,000 "clean" coal jobs?

You mean like fighting for LGBTQ rights/protections?

You mean like $4k pay raise for the average family?

You mean like ending North Korea's nuclear program?

You mean like protecting US steel jobs?

You mean like eliminating the federal deficit?

You mean like bringing down the national debt?

You mean like Sharpiegate being an accomplishment?

You mean like smearing people who didn't have white faces?

You mean like using campaign funds to pay off porn stars?

You mean like lying about the family separation program and destroying families forever?

You mean like exposing the danger of windmill cancer?

You mean like being the president telling THE MOST lies?

 

I could go on, but if you pay attention then you get the picture.

 

Again, what is it with this guy? Is it a 401k thing?

[J Town]

25 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Did trump hold rallys during lockdown in the summer? I only remember the blm protests here ( uk) and usa,anyway no need to play the race card.

Really? REALLY?!? He held SUPERSPREADER events. Seriously, Fox/OAN/Newsmax are not your friends.

[kingdong]

11 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

You should do some research first.  Seems lacking with the Trump's supporters.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_post-2016_election_Donald_Trump_rallies

1 i,m not a trump supporter.2 did his rallys occur during lockdowns with social distancing in respective states?

[Jeffr2]

10 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Imagine for 4 years you were a Trump fan boy. And you ignored facts for all that time. What could possibly change the mind and thinking of such a person? More facts? More Trump lies?

If such a person would wake up and denounce Trump he would have to realize what he did in the last years.

How many people want to wake up and admit that they were stupid and ignorant for years?

It's stunning, and proves they live in an echo chamber of fake news, that only 19% of republicans believe Biden won the election.

 

It all boils down to the fake right wing media outlets. 

 

https://news.yahoo.com/online-misinformation-us-election-fell-102307689.html

 

Online misinformation about the US election fell 73% after Trump's social media ban

[Jeffr2]

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

1 i,m not a trump supporter.2 did his rallys occur during lockdowns with social distancing in respective states?

Ya didn't even look at the link...figures....

[J Town]

Just now, kingdong said:

1 i,m not a trump supporter.2 did his rallys occur during lockdowns with social distancing in respective states?

1. Yes you are

2. Yes they did, without masks nor social distancing.

 

Again, Fox/OAN/Newsmax are NOT your friends.

[kingdong]

3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Ya didn't even look at the link...figures....

I looked at the link,it didn,t report the lockdown status of the rallys.anyway not really that bothered so goodnight.

[J Town]

Just now, kingdong said:

I looked at the link,it didn,t report the lockdown status of the rallys.anyway not really that bothered so goodnight.

400,000 Americans will never get that luxury. Dream about that.

[Jeffr2]

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

I looked at the link,it didn,t report the lockdown status of the rallys.anyway not really that bothered so goodnight.

You can put 2 and 2 together.  There were rallies every month all over the US.  So yes, he was doing them during lock downs and during the peak outbreak of the virus in many cities.  This is well known if you read the proper source for news.  You won't read this on Fox, OANN, etc.

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8 minutes ago, kingdong said:

1 i,m not a trump supporter.2 did his rallys occur during lockdowns with social distancing in respective states?

Another case of I-am-not-a-Trump-supporter-but...

Why do you think  it's significant that he didn't violate lockdowns? Are you aware that he did ignore the recommendations of his own covid advisory council? 

And here's one case of a Trump rally violating state rules:

Trump ignores science at dangerous indoor rally

"President Donald Trump offered a glaring new example of his refusal to put medical science before politics with a large indoor rally Sunday night that made a mockery of social distancing, while the pandemic he mismanaged has now claimed more than 194,000 American lives...

Trump later claimed in an interview with the Las Vegas Review-Journal that he didn't think he was subject to the 50-person gathering cap -- and attacked Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak, a Democrat, for making it "impossible" to hold an outdoor rally."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-indoor-rally-wildfires/index.html

I suspect I could find a lot more. This one took me about a 15 seconds to locate.

And he actually held an indoor rally!

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[Thakkar]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Closing out his presidency

Wait! There’s still time for him to release his taxes, explain what “infrastructure week” was all about, get Mexico to pay for the 3% of wall he built, save coal jobs, and unveil his “great” healthcare plan.

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Farewell Mr Trump. I wish you well in the future, whatever that may be.

 

When he was elected I said that it would be an "interesting" presidency, and that prediction was spot on.

The past 4 years have been a hell of a ride.

 

I predict that Trump will NOT be vanishing from CNN, BBC, Al Jazira any time soon, so expect to be seeing him on tv for years to come.

My own prediction is those predictions of yours will be difficult to achieve from a jail cell. There's more than enough evidence to put him there, on multiple fronts.

Trump has won one thing, the title of the worst President in the history of the USA.

As you are such a strong supporter of his legacy of division and hatred, I have to ask - did you donate to his campaign fund?

[Peterw42]

1 minute ago, Thakkar said:

Wait! There’s still time for him to release his taxes, explain what “infrastructure week” was all about, get Mexico to pay for the 3% of wall he built, save coal jobs, and unveil his “great” healthcare plan.

We would all get sick of winning, its for our own good

 

[J Town]

Just now, Lacessit said:

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Trump has won one thing, the title of the worst President in the history of the USA.

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And for this, Nixon and Bush Jr are forever grateful!

[Berkshire]

43 minutes ago, J Town said:

45 minutes ago, kingdong said:

1 i,m not a trump supporter.2 did his rallys occur during lockdowns with social distancing in respective states?

1. Yes you are

2. Yes they did, without masks nor social distancing.

 

Again, Fox/OAN/Newsmax are NOT your friends.

I'm constantly amazed by people who start their post with "I'm not a Trump supporter, BUT....", followed by incoherent nonsense masquerading as "trying to be objective."  Who do they think they're fooling?  Only a Trump supporter can believe the lies coming from Trump and his enablers.  Don't hide, own it!

[Dagfinnur Traustason]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

he promised an end to “American carnage,” a bleak and dysfunctional nation he had insisted that he alone could fix.

And now the world knows! Both the American people and the rest of the world is feeling the rotten stink after four years. The result of too many US citizens blindly following a madman.

Edited January 20, 2021 by Dagfinnur Traustason

[Lacessit]

Trump has another legacy, as usual not a good one. He weaponised the US dollar, imposing sanctions on over 3000 individuals, corporations, and countries. It has given new impetus to undermining the status of the USD as the world's reserve currency.

China and Russia in direct trades now use their own currencies for the majority of transactions. The Europeans are seeking to use the euro to replace the dollar in their transactions as well.

Expect the dollar to weaken even further, that's Trump's legacy. If it loses reserve currency status, one dollar buys 10 baht?

https://www.theage.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/trump-era-spurs-new-efforts-to-undermine-us-dollar-s-status-20210120-p56vij.html

[Jeffr2]

24 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

My own prediction is those predictions of yours will be difficult to achieve from a jail cell. There's more than enough evidence to put him there, on multiple fronts.

Trump has won one thing, the title of the worst President in the history of the USA.

As you are such a strong supporter of his legacy of division and hatred, I have to ask - did you donate to his campaign fund?

An interesting read:

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/big-law-trump-untouchable-client-firms-condemn-business-2021-1

 

Trump is becoming an 'untouchable client.' Here's how law firms are turning on the president, from calling for his removal to dumping his business.

[Jeffr2]

1 minute ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

And now the world knows! Both the American people and the rest of the world is feeling the rotten stink after four years. The result of a majority of US citizens blindly following a madman.

Not a majority, but yes, a significant percentage.  All blinded by the lies from the right wing fake news sites.

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, Dagfinnur Traustason said:

And now the world knows! Both the American people and the rest of the world is feeling the rotten stink after four years. The result of a majority of US citizens blindly following a madman.

Thank goodness it wasn't a majority. However, STILL WAY too many!

[kamahele]

3 hours ago, ezzra said:

Too early to tell really, as usually history is the better judge of events and their aftermath, is the world worse now because of Trump? some will say yes others will beg to differ, for now, let's see how 46 will do...

While this is usually true,  I was listening to two famous historians this morning and both stated in Trump's case, history will probably judge him pretty harshly.