Trump administration had no coronavirus vaccine distribution plan - White House

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, PattayaJames said:

Well the Trump administration with allegedly no plan ramped up the numbers from zero to about 900k vaccines a day in just over a month.

 

Now the "adults" are in charge and Biden has a ''super plan" in place he is committing to increasing all the way up to 1 million a day over 100 days.

 

Can you imagine how the media would react to such a pathetic commitment from Trump?

 

 

Come on. Impossible to defend the actions of the Trump administration. It's been widely reported how they failed and mislead regarding the pandemic. Trying to defend their criminal actions is foolish and uninformed.

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

Not sure what is so hard to undetstand. 

 

CNN said there was no plan. No shades of grey there. No plan means no plan. 

 

Fauci dispelled that lie. 

 

No need for the Special Mental Olympics. 

No plan for how to get jabs into arms. That's been widely reported. Plenty of failures across the country.

[pedro01]

Just now, Jeffr2 said:

No plan for how to get jabs into arms. That's been widely reported. Plenty of failures across the country.

 

Night is day, up is down, black is white.

 

It's fascinating to see the tortured logic employed, here. 

 

[RJRS1301]

2 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

No plan for how to get jabs into arms. That's been widely reported. Plenty of failures across the country.

A failure to understand the basics, as being displayed by some of our fellow participants, the green kooll aid kids

 

[PattayaJames]

6 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Come on. Impossible to defend the actions of the Trump administration. It's been widely reported how they failed and mislead regarding the pandemic. Trying to defend their criminal actions is foolish and uninformed.

 

Your response bares NO relation to the content of my post.

Random indeed? 

 

[ExpatOK]

3 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Your response bares NO relation to the content of my post.

Random indeed? 

 

Go easy on him. He suffers from...sorry can't say it on this forum.

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15 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

Not sure what is so hard to undetstand. 

 

CNN said there was no plan. No shades of grey there. No plan means no plan. 

 

Fauci dispelled that lie. 

 

No need for the Special Mental Olympics. 

First off, speaking of the Special Mental Olympics, you've got to get over your CNN obsession. The statement was made by Ron Klaim via NBC. Second, even if it had been said on CNN, it wouldn't be true to say that CNN said it. Once again the statement was made by Ron Klaim. And Ron Klaim's statement in the article said this: "The process to distribute the vaccine, particularly outside of nursing homes and hospitals out into the community as a whole, did not really exist when we came into the White House," Klain said on NBC's "Meet the Press." 

And as Dr. Fauci said, the effort is going to be greatly ramped up now that the new administration is running the program. He specifically cited outreach to minority communities where skepticism of the vaccine is greater. And here's a shocker: outreach to minority communities apparently wasn't much of a thing during the Trump administration. Whoever could have guessed that?

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9 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

Go easy on him. He suffers from...sorry can't say it on this forum.

Next you'll be telling us Trump saved millions of lives via his travel embargo. Oh wait...you already did.

[HighPriority]

1 hour ago, J Town said:

I have to say I am done with trying to point out the obvious to those who refuse to accept it. The old "lead a horse to water" thing. Time can be spent better watching grass grow.

Here in tv land we prefer to push Kwai putput uphill...

[pedro01]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

First off, speaking of the Special Mental Olympics, you've got to get over your CNN obsession. The statement was made by Ron Klaim via NBC. Second, even if it had been said on CNN, it wouldn't be true to say that CNN said it. Once again the statement was made by Ron Klaim. And Ron Klaim's statement in the article said this: "The process to distribute the vaccine, particularly outside of nursing homes and hospitals out into the community as a whole, did not really exist when we came into the White House," Klain said on NBC's "Meet the Press." 

And as Dr. Fauci said, the effort is going to be greatly ramped up now that the new administration is running the program. He specifically cited outreach to minority communities where skepticism of the vaccine is greater. And here's a shocker: outreach to minority communities apparently wasn't much of a thing during the Trump administration. Whoever could have guessed that?

 

CNN reported this 23 times. So it's their obsession.

 

Look - in the past 2 elections, the US has had to choose between 2 awful candidates. The hyperbole from the media has gone into overdrive at the same time, which is no coincidence. 

 

The best thing you can say about Biden is he's less terrible than Trump - but this "no plan"  thing is a continuation of a rabid obsession, rather than factual reporting.

 

So it's been debunked. In the past 2 elections - the choice has been Trump, Clinton (not the charismatic one) and Biden. This is not the best the US has to offer but it's what you get if you suspend reality and eat what you are fed by the media. 

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2 hours ago, pedro01 said:

Not sure what is so hard to undetstand. 

 

CNN said there was no plan. No shades of grey there. No plan means no plan. 

 

Fauci dispelled that lie. 

 

No need for the Special Mental Olympics. 

And it was Reuters that reported a story about what Klaim said on NBC. Where does CNN enter into this?

[PattayaJames]

45 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 

And it was Reuters that reported a story about what Klaim said on NBC. Where does CNN enter into this?

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccination-trump/index.html

 

Biden inheriting nonexistent coronavirus vaccine distribution plan and must start 'from scratch,' sources say

 

"There is nothing for us to rework. We are going to have to build everything from scratch," one source said.

 

Another source described the moment that it became clear the Biden administration would have to essentially start from "square one" because there simply was no plan.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-under-fire-for-scoop-pushing-biden-vaccine-talking-points

 

CNN ripped as Biden 'PR shop' after 'scoop' that he inherited no vaccine distribution plan from Trump

 

CNN is under fire for publishing an anonymously sourced "scoop" that the Biden administration will have to "build everything from scratch" because there was no Trump plan to distribute coronavirus vaccines, when reality tells a far different story.

 

Biden has called for vaccinating 100 million Americans in the first 100 days of his administration, which would be one million per day. Bloomberg Business data indicates that rate had already been reached as Trump left office.

 

 

Edited January 26, 2021 by PattayaJames
Bold added for amusement

[Sujo]

19 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccination-trump/index.html

 

Biden inheriting nonexistent coronavirus vaccine distribution plan and must start 'from scratch,' sources say

 

"There is nothing for us to rework. We are going to have to build everything from scratch," one source said.

 

Another source described the moment that it became clear the Biden administration would have to essentially start from "square one" because there simply was no plan.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-under-fire-for-scoop-pushing-biden-vaccine-talking-points

 

CNN ripped as Biden 'PR shop' after 'scoop' that he inherited no vaccine distribution plan from Trump

 

CNN is under fire for publishing an anonymously sourced "scoop" that the Biden administration will have to "build everything from scratch" because there was no Trump plan to distribute coronavirus vaccines, when reality tells a far different story.

 

Biden has called for vaccinating 100 million Americans in the first 100 days of his administration, which would be one million per day. Bloomberg Business data indicates that rate had already been reached as Trump left office.

 

 

Which the states organised because there was no plan. Trump said so himself, he said it was up to the states.

 

Now the fed govt has got involved and made a plan.

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27 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccination-trump/index.html

 

Biden inheriting nonexistent coronavirus vaccine distribution plan and must start 'from scratch,' sources say

 

"There is nothing for us to rework. We are going to have to build everything from scratch," one source said.

 

Another source described the moment that it became clear the Biden administration would have to essentially start from "square one" because there simply was no plan.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-under-fire-for-scoop-pushing-biden-vaccine-talking-points

 

CNN ripped as Biden 'PR shop' after 'scoop' that he inherited no vaccine distribution plan from Trump

 

CNN is under fire for publishing an anonymously sourced "scoop" that the Biden administration will have to "build everything from scratch" because there was no Trump plan to distribute coronavirus vaccines, when reality tells a far different story.

 

Biden has called for vaccinating 100 million Americans in the first 100 days of his administration, which would be one million per day. Bloomberg Business data indicates that rate had already been reached as Trump left office.

 

 

Well those are fair points you raise. Since I don't watchor read CNN I assumed that Pedro1 was referencingthis article. 

As for Biden's pledge, he made that early on. Fauci has raised the possibility that Biden will invoke the Defense Production Act to conscript industry into making much more. And in making all the other paraphernalia that is needed. Trump made far too little use of that law for reason that were unclear but probably had something to do with his reluctance to concede that Covid was a serious threat but rather that Covid's threat was greatly exaggerated by the Democrats.

Edited January 26, 2021 by placeholder

[pedro01]

1 hour ago, PattayaJames said:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccination-trump/index.html

 

Biden inheriting nonexistent coronavirus vaccine distribution plan and must start 'from scratch,' sources say

 

"There is nothing for us to rework. We are going to have to build everything from scratch," one source said.

 

Another source described the moment that it became clear the Biden administration would have to essentially start from "square one" because there simply was no plan.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-under-fire-for-scoop-pushing-biden-vaccine-talking-points

 

CNN ripped as Biden 'PR shop' after 'scoop' that he inherited no vaccine distribution plan from Trump

 

CNN is under fire for publishing an anonymously sourced "scoop" that the Biden administration will have to "build everything from scratch" because there was no Trump plan to distribute coronavirus vaccines, when reality tells a far different story.

 

Biden has called for vaccinating 100 million Americans in the first 100 days of his administration, which would be one million per day. Bloomberg Business data indicates that rate had already been reached as Trump left office.

 

 

Indeed. 

 

It's hard to understand why people can't admit this wasn't true. 

 

After all, it doesn't mean your wife is ugly or your hero isn't heroic. 

 

It just means this story was bunk. No more, no less. 

[pedro01]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

 

And it was Reuters that reported a story about what Klaim said on NBC. Where does CNN enter into this?

That's where I saw this first. 

 

And they reported it 23 times. 

[Sujo]

6 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

That's where I saw this first. 

 

And they reported it 23 times. 

Is there a limit to how many times? Does that change the veracity?

[pedro01]

13 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Is there a limit to how many times? Does that change the veracity?

It doesn't change the fact it wasn't true. 

 

It just speaks to how much they wanted to push it. 

[Jeffr2]

13 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Your response bares NO relation to the content of my post.

Random indeed? 

 

Not random, but not misinformation like yours.

[Jeffr2]

Some seem to be confused here.  Especially the crowd who gets their news from the fake sites, Fox, Breitbart, OANN, etc.

 

This article sums it up nicely.  It's about distribution.  Stay focused....LOL.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-klain-idUSKBN29T0FY

 

There was no distribution plan for the coronavirus vaccine set up by the Trump administration as the virus raged in its last months in office, new President Joe Biden’s chief of staff, Ron Klain, said on Sunday.

“The process to distribute the vaccine, particularly outside of nursing homes and hospitals out into the community as a whole, did not really exist when we came into the White House,” Klain said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

[PattayaJames]

8 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Not random, but not misinformation like yours.

 

If you are accusing me of posting misinformation, I think you need to back that up.

 

What part of my post are you calling misinformation?

 

23 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

Well the Trump administration with allegedly no plan ramped up the numbers from zero to about 900k vaccines a day in just over a month.

 

Now the "adults" are in charge and Biden has a ''super plan" in place he is committing to increasing all the way up to 1 million a day over 100 days.

 

Can you imagine how the media would react to such a pathetic commitment from Trump?

[Sujo]

33 minutes ago, PattayaJames said:

 

If you are accusing me of posting misinformation, I think you need to back that up.

 

What part of my post are you calling misinformation?

 

The part where it nearly reached 900k one day with no assistance from trump. That was the states that did it because...trump had no plan.

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The Trump administration had predicted 20 million completed vaccinations by the end of December.

U.S. vaccinations in 2020 fall far short of target of 20 million people

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-vaccinations/u-s-vaccinations-in-2020-fall-far-short-of-target-of-20-million-people-idUSKBN29512W

 

The administration had also promised to release additional vaccines from their reserve. Only it turns out they didn't have any.

Governors say no additional vaccine doses coming, despite Trump admin promise

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/534486-governors-say-no-additional-vaccine-doses-coming-despite-trump-admin

 

 

 

[PattayaJames]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The Trump administration had predicted 20 million completed vaccinations by the end of December.

U.S. vaccinations in 2020 fall far short of target of 20 million people

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-vaccinations/u-s-vaccinations-in-2020-fall-far-short-of-target-of-20-million-people-idUSKBN29512W

 

Seems like the PLAN fell short of it's target, which was a stretch 20 million in the first 2 weeks.

 

I am sure Biden wont have such problems, what with his fantastic plan and soft target of 7 million a week over the next 100 days. 

[Scott]

Post with misinformation and replies reported and removed.

 

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Seems like the PLAN fell short of it's target, which was a stretch 20 million in the first 2 weeks.

 

I am sure Biden wont have such problems, what with his fantastic plan and soft target of 7 million a week over the next 100 days. 

Also seems like they didn't have a clue in promising vaccine doses that didn't exist.

Edited January 27, 2021 by placeholder

[Jeffr2]

13 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

 

Seems like the PLAN fell short of it's target, which was a stretch 20 million in the first 2 weeks.

 

I am sure Biden wont have such problems, what with his fantastic plan and soft target of 7 million a week over the next 100 days. 

Yeah, Trump's plan failed miserably.  Biden is planning more than 1MM per day.  The new target is 1.5MM and they are hoping to ramp up to 2MM.  Time will tell, but for sure far better than Trump's NO plan.

 

Congrats to Biden for stepping up and making things happen.  What a breath of fresh air for Trump to be gone.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/26/biden-covid-19-vaccine-plan-vpx.cnn

 

Biden announces plan to increase Covid-19 vaccine supply

 

President Joe Biden announces a plan to buy 200 million more Covid-19 vaccine doses from Pfizer and Moderna to fully vaccinate the American population by the end of summer or early fall of 2021.

[ChakaKhan]

On 1/24/2021 at 11:29 PM, Anant72 said:

In total agreement. What those morons wouldn't see is that Trump was working for himself.  He despised his followers: they were his tools to stay in power. That's how populism works.

GOP Greedy Old Propagandists

[ChakaKhan]

On 1/25/2021 at 7:02 AM, PremiumLane said:

so is being in a cult ????

Just dont drink the Covfefe!!

[earlinclaifornia]

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Mind you  can probably recognize... LOL

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