Been away 8 months but holding retirement visa

[DrJack54]

10 hours ago, LALes said:

Yes, I am Non-O retirement.  It is looking like I will need to buy

COE, Covid insurance, 400/40 insurance and quarantine.

That's quite an expenditure just to travel.

Most people would agree that's it's expensive to come to Thailand just to travel.

On the other hand those that have family or strong ties to Thailand would accept the expense to see loved ones.

Why travel to Thailand under current restrictions if it's just down to travel.

[LALes]

I live in Thailand.  I would be traveling to USA for 2 months.

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, LALes said:

I live in Thailand.  I would be traveling to USA for 2 months.

Ok. 

I also live in Thailand. There is absolutely no way I would be traveling to my country Oz for 2 months. You did not mention urgent travel.

[LALes]

Its not urgent.  I'm just trying to get a handle on all the requirements and how much they will cost.

I'm not going anywhere if its going to cost a bundle.  Of course, your definition of a bundle may differ.

[Tanoshi]

11 hours ago, LALes said:

Its not urgent.  I'm just trying to get a handle on all the requirements and how much they will cost.

I'm not going anywhere if its going to cost a bundle.  Of course, your definition of a bundle may differ.

As a rough guide;                            

Return flight                                        ?

COE                                                       Free

ASQ Hotel Booking.                            50,000 - 120,000 baht

Covid19 PCR test.                               100 -150 USD. ?

Covid 19 Insurance.                            Dependant on age and length of policy.

Health Insurance                                 Dependant on age and length of policy.

Fit to Fly certificate                              20-50 USD. ?

[ubonjoe]

11 hours ago, LALes said:

Its not urgent.  I'm just trying to get a handle on all the requirements and how much they will cost.

I'm not going anywhere if its going to cost a bundle.  Of course, your definition of a bundle may differ.

Any costs more than normal airfare and etc pre covid 19 would be more than I would be willing to pay to travel unless it was a emergency that required it.

[jimn]

23 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Where did you find that info?

On this page it states this. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/requirements-for-foreigners-travelling-to-thailand-during-covid-19-tra?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

 

"7. For long-stay retirement visa holders (Non-Immigrant O/O-A/O-X) for people over 50 years old

- Copy of health insurance policy which covers medical treatment in Thailand (non-COVID-19 diseases) for outpatient not less than 40,000 Baht and inpatient not less than 400,000 Baht for the whole period of your stay in Thailand

- Copy of health insurance that coversCOVID-19 related medical expenses, both inpatient and outpatient, no less than 100,000 USD for the whole period of your stay in Thailand"

 

 

Its from a COE page on the RTE London Embassy that has infortunately been down for the past few days

 

https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/119247-requirements-for-certificate-of-entry-during-travel-restriction?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

 

See screenshot from the link you quoted. This only applies to new applications, not for people who have a re entry permit.

 

Required documents for COE (Apart from visa or re entry permit)

[ubonjoe]

16 minutes ago, jimn said:

See screenshot from the link you quoted. This only applies to new applications, not for people who have a re entry permit.

I think you will find in reality it will be required to get approval of a COE. Others have reported as needing it to get one.

[jimn]

4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I think you will find in reality it will be required to get approval of a COE. Others have reported as needing it to get one.

Sorry UJ I disagree, these people are not from the UK. On the Facebook London forum there are many who have return without the extra insurance.

[Robin]

I returned from UK 1 month ago.  My experience was:

CoE easy to get from  London Embassy once I satisfied all requirements.

Flight to Thailand.  booked on Expedia, chose a random date about 1 month from application.

Covid insurance. bought from the recommended supplier.  I am 76, so not easy to get cheaper insurance.

booked ASQ hotel , chose from the list of ASQ hotels, and from the arrival date of my flight.

Uploaded copies of my Retirement visa (non-IM O) and re-entry permit on application for CoE.

 

Bit of a gamble here as I had to buy insurance, flight, ASQ on the chance that I got CoE.

CoE granted on 24 Dec, 2-3 days after applying, and then had to book Covid test in UK.  Result included Fit 2 Fly cert.

No trouble with flight, arrival or entry to Thailand, so long as I had all the paperwork required.

ASQ was a bit of a drag, but survived nd now  back home in Phayao.  I consider it worth the trouble and money, but I would not want to go through it again, so no intention of leaving Thaialnd until I know that entry restrictions have been eased.

Cost?  Insurance, ASQ, Covid tests; about 2000 pounds UK.

I noted that insurance  and ASQ both had cancellation clauses if I failed Covid test, but no idea how easy to get my money back

[Tanoshi]

1 hour ago, Robin said:

booked ASQ hotel , chose from the list of ASQ hotels, and from the arrival date of my flight.

Uploaded copies of my Retirement visa (non-IM O) and re-entry permit on application for CoE.

Were you required to purchase just the Covid Insurance or did you have to also purchase the Health Insurance covering 400K outpatient, 40K inpatient policy.

[NokYai611]

As noted the COE Health Insurance requirements (USA Embassy) are 2 fold: 1) 40K/400K THB In/Out patient minimum for period of stay ( a helpful response indicated that Thai Company LMG Plan-1 might range 6-11.4K THB).........2) $100,000 minimum Covid coverage for period of stay.  I ran a test on covid19.tgia.org to check price for 6 months for 70 year old.........Answer ~25,000THB.

 

Question: Is a Foreign Company Certificate (Signed by Company Director and "stamped") required for the Covid $100,000 proof of coverage...........it clearly seems to be required for the 40K/400K THB coverage.  I ask because although my current USA-based insurance meets both these criteria.......my USA company seems to have no facility to provide me with Certificates demanded by Thailand.  I suspect Certificates would be required for both 1 and 2 above.......but it's not entirely clear??

Thanks

[Peter Denis]

8 hours ago, NokYai611 said:

As noted the COE Health Insurance requirements (USA Embassy) are 2 fold: 1) 40K/400K THB In/Out patient minimum for period of stay ( a helpful response indicated that Thai Company LMG Plan-1 might range 6-11.4K THB).........2) $100,000 minimum Covid coverage for period of stay.  I ran a test on covid19.tgia.org to check price for 6 months for 70 year old.........Answer ~25,000THB.

 

Question: Is a Foreign Company Certificate (Signed by Company Director and "stamped") required for the Covid $100,000 proof of coverage...........it clearly seems to be required for the 40K/400K THB coverage.  I ask because although my current USA-based insurance meets both these criteria.......my USA company seems to have no facility to provide me with Certificates demanded by Thailand.  I suspect Certificates would be required for both 1 and 2 above.......but it's not entirely clear??

Thanks

You can use foreign/international insurance to meet the 100.000 US $ covid-19 treatment insurance.  When under 70 years of age and from a 'high-risk' covid country like USA, in many cases SafetyWing travel-insurance will both meet the insurance requirement and provide far more value and often be even cheaper than the ridiculous TGIA covid-19 only insurance policies.

When you also need 400K/40K in/out-patient health-insurance, it depends on the Thai Embassy/Consulate in your home-country whether they allow foreign/international insurance (the US Embassy does allow it).  But it requires that your insurer fills-in/signs the Foreign Insurance Certificate and many insurers are reluctant to do that, as that form refers to Thai legislation they are not familiar with.

>> I did PM you a Guideline document on how to meet the 400K/40K health-insurance requirement when applying for the Non Imm O-A (or now also Non Imm O retirement) in your home-country, outlining both the FIC-option using your foreing insurance or subscribing to Thai insurance (LMG Insurance Plan-1 with 200K deductible being the cheapest and easiest option). 

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[Sheryl]

13 hours ago, NokYai611 said:

As noted the COE Health Insurance requirements (USA Embassy) are 2 fold: 1) 40K/400K THB In/Out patient minimum for period of stay ( a helpful response indicated that Thai Company LMG Plan-1 might range 6-11.4K THB).........2) $100,000 minimum Covid coverage for period of stay.  I ran a test on covid19.tgia.org to check price for 6 months for 70 year old.........Answer ~25,000THB.

 

Question: Is a Foreign Company Certificate (Signed by Company Director and "stamped") required for the Covid $100,000 proof of coverage...........it clearly seems to be required for the 40K/400K THB coverage.  I ask because although my current USA-based insurance meets both these criteria.......my USA company seems to have no facility to provide me with Certificates demanded by Thailand.  I suspect Certificates would be required for both 1 and 2 above.......but it's not entirely clear??

Thanks

I do not see any COE insurance requirement other than the 100K COVID  policy on the COE application.  (US Thai Embassy uses same MFA website as others for initial COE applications - https://coethailand.mfa.go.th/

 

For newly issuing  non-O visa, the Thai Embassy & Consultyaes in USA require the 40k/400k and will accept the Foreign Insurance Certificate for it:

 

"The applicants must submit the following:

Health insurance policy document issued by a Thai or foreign insurance company, stating that the applicant is medically insured for the period and with coverage as mentioned above:
(a) In case of a foreign insurance company, the applicant must submit the original insurance policy document with 2 copies;
(b) In case of a Thai insurance company, the applicant must submit 2 copies of the insurance policy document or, if available, the original insurance policy document with 2 copies. A list of Thai insurance companies participating in the scheme can be found here: http://longstay.tgia.org

Foreign Insurance Certificate as stipulated by the Office of Insurance Commission and Health Insurance of Thailand, which must be completed, signed and stamped by the insurance company. The form can be downloaded here: Foreign Insurance Certificate Form"

https://thaiembdc.org/2020/11/17/nonoretirement/

 

What I do not know is, if you apply for COE based on a re-entry permit form an original non-O, will the Embassy/Consulate  in US then require proof of 40k/400k even though it is nto required in the COE application? 

 

And  I would very much like to find out as I have to go to the US next summer.