Former PDRC protest leader Suthep and 25 others sentenced to prison terms

[BobBKK]

Suthep is a disgrace to Thailand he was used to get this lot into power. They will bail them but but he would live in luxury inside jail no question. Horrible hypocrite he is and a waste of oxygen.  

[BobBKK]

2 hours ago, VincentRJ said:

It's very different. Those protesters of Yingluck's government were fueling continual political unrest which could have escalated into complete chaos if the military had not intervened to take control.

 

The military didn't intervene because they disagreed with Yingluck's policies and/or because they became aware of signs of corruption  in the government. They intervened in order to create stability.

 

It is those protesters who were the cause of the military coup.

 

you have to be kidding... LOL 

[colinneil]

2 hours ago, VincentRJ said:

It's very different. Those protesters of Yingluck's government were fueling continual political unrest which could have escalated into complete chaos if the military had not intervened to take control.

 

The military didn't intervene because they disagreed with Yingluck's policies and/or because they became aware of signs of corruption  in the government. They intervened in order to create stability.

 

It is those protesters who were the cause of the military coup.

Appears you are avin a laff at others expense, you surely cannot be serious.????????

[mikebell]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Suthep posted on Facebook after the verdict.

Are they allowed their phones in jail?

[Srikcir]

5 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

Just out of curiosity...

 

How is what they did different from what Prayut and his friends did?

 

Didn't they both try to overthrow the legal government?

 

Is insurrection legal in Thailand if you succeed?

 

Does Thai law make a special provision if you are a member of the military?

 

Just askin'

 

 

 

It's about having the right connections in Thailand. 

Suthep had Prayut.

Prayut had his superior (?).

Leaving PDRC out of the military's new Constitution's amnesty provision simplified the constitutionality of the military's amnesty.

 

 

[Dogmatix]

5 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

Just out of curiosity...

 

How is what they did different from what Prayut and his friends did?

 

Didn't they both try to overthrow the legal government?

 

Is insurrection legal in Thailand if you succeed?

 

Does Thai law make a special provision if you are a member of the military?

 

Just askin'

 

 

 

Very good questions. It does seem inconsistent that those who incited the insurrection should go to jail, while those who actually acted on the incitement and insurrected are not even charged. The mechanism was to dissolve the constitution, propagate a new temporary one and amnesty themselves all of which received royal assent the following day and thus became law.

 

You could argue that it would have been more equitable to include a blanket provision to amnesty everyone who facilitated the coup makers’ glorious ascent to power as well but that is not how things work. They will acquitted on appeal or least more sentences will be suspended instead.

[Patong2021]

Suthep will not be wearing prison pajamas in this lifetime.

[Dogmatix]

It is interesting that Prayut has been saved the effort of ejecting Education Minister  Nathapol Thepsuwan from the cabinet, as demanded by a clique of PPRP MPs close to party leader Gen Prawit. Nathapol defied a party directive to stop his wife, Taya, from running for governor as an independent against PPRP’s candidate, the previous police chief. Taya is a former Democrat deputy governor, while PPRP’s candidate has zero experience of BMA administration. Thus PPR worthies are scared that Taya might win or split their vote and allow an opposition candidate to win. Unfortunately for them, though, Taya herself only received a suspended sentence and is thus still eligible to run  in the governor election.

 

A supreme irony is that Prayut has no problem keeping a convicted heroin smuggler in his cabinet and that the constitutional court ruled that a conviction and imprisonment in Australia don’t count because the constitution didn’t actually specify that overseas conviction and imprisonment were included, whereas Thai courts had previously ruled in other types of cases that convictions meant overseas or Thai convictions.

 

The ejections from the cabinet will also be a great way for Prayut to satisfy demands from those jockeying for entry to the cabinet without having to make a decision about who to axe.

Edited February 25, 2021 by Dogmatix

[johnarth]

funny how the new supposed general is out of sight, is he still in Thailand? I would love to hear his views on this just so I would know

[prakhonchai nick]

Education Minister Nuttaphol Theepsuwan, is I believe the owner of Rugby School in Pattaya. How will the parents of children there view this news I wonder?

 

[Docno]

Seven years after the crime was committed. Must have been either done in the shadows or else it was very complex. Either way, it clearly required a lengthy investigation before it could be brought to trial and the verdict rendered. /sarcasm-off 

[Freigeist365]

Well done!!! I remember the times where I wanted to throw up onto every 7Eleven counter, where the books of this (deleted)-head were placed for mass sale. His so-called "movement" seized the Thai flag as their logo, implementing that 100% of Thailand stands behind his "vision" which was screamed and shouted 24/7 on live stages and TV into the ears of the public, whether you wanted to hear it or not. My wife and I were sick and tired of listening to his constant screaming and ranting on stage. It felt like this miniature Pol Pot would get his way and turn Thailand into a worker and peasant state, the country tumbling towards communism...

Wherever you'd go, you'd see his stupid angry face and the seized "logo" (the Thai colours) behind him... Parts of Bkk were seized and blocked from public with sand bags and barbed wire. You felt like in a war zone in some places and not like in the capitol of a somewhat civilized nation. If you'd be lost in Bkk and end up near one of those barricaded areas, you'd be shooed away forcefully, at gunpoint at times...

And suddenly, a miracle happened and this ranting, screaming and kicking piece of (deleted) was gone. Over and out for Mr. Kick and Scream - and it felt like heaven! The colours went back to where they belonged, to anyone within Thailand and not to only one half of the population because they thought they were "right"...

His "revolutionary" communist books disappeared quickly from 7Eleven shelves. It was pure bliss. Imho he and his cronies can rot and die behind bars. The 7Eleven holding company should also pay a hefty fine for helping to promote this criminal who almost managed to push Thailand over the edge into civil war.
Time to pop a bubbly! 

Edited February 25, 2021 by Freigeist365

[klauskunkel]

3 hours ago, VincentRJ said:

It is those protesters who were the cause of the military coup.

No, it is the military who was the cause of the military coup.

[PatOngo]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

Suthep is a disgrace to Thailand

As are most politicians!

[Mad mick]

Another normal day in Thai politics all theatre ! guess you could say all country's are no different full of elite politicians and governments world wide disgustingly corrupt until we the people rise up against them all take our and your freedoms back ! nothing will change tyranny will continue to prevail 

[Dogmatix]

56 minutes ago, Freigeist365 said:

Well done!!! I remember the times where I wanted to throw up onto every 7Eleven counter, where the books of this (deleted)-head were placed for mass sale. His so-called "movement" seized the Thai flag as their logo, implementing that 100% of Thailand stands behind his "vision" which was screamed and shouted 24/7 on live stages and TV into the ears of the public, whether you wanted to hear it or not. My wife and I were sick and tired of listening to his constant screaming and ranting on stage. It felt like this miniature Pol Pot would get his way and turn Thailand into a worker and peasant state, the country tumbling towards communism...

Wherever you'd go, you'd see his stupid angry face and the seized "logo" (the Thai colours) behind him... Parts of Bkk were seized and blocked from public with sand bags and barbed wire. You felt like in a war zone in some places and not like in the capitol of a somewhat civilized nation. If you'd be lost in Bkk and end up near one of those barricaded areas, you'd be shooed away forcefully, at gunpoint at times...

And suddenly, a miracle happened and this ranting, screaming and kicking piece of (deleted) was gone. Over and out for Mr. Kick and Scream - and it felt like heaven! The colours went back to where they belonged, to anyone within Thailand and not to only one half of the population because they thought they were "right"...

His "revolutionary" communist books disappeared quickly from 7Eleven shelves. It was pure bliss. Imho he and his cronies can rot and die behind bars. The 7Eleven holding company should also pay a hefty fine for helping to promote this criminal who almost managed to push Thailand over the edge into civil war.
Time to pop a bubbly! 

Don’t forget that the owners of 7/11 were  strongly rumored to be supplying refreshments  to the redshirt supporters of the Yingluck government. They play both ends against the middle.

[Freigeist365]

Just now, Dogmatix said:

Don’t forget that the owners of 7/11 were  strongly rumored to be supplying refreshments  to the redshirt supporters of the Yingluck government. They play both ends against the middle.

Well spotted! ????

[VincentRJ]

19 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

No, it is the military who was the cause of the military coup.

You seem confused. The military is not a cause. It's an organization funded by the people, through their taxes, and exists in order to protect the society from disruptive intruders. The military was just doing its job when it took over control. Would you prefer a situation like what happened recently at Capitol Hill in Washington?

[kiwikeith]

6 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

Just out of curiosity...

 

How is what they did different from what Prayut and his friends did?

 

Didn't they both try to overthrow the legal government?

 

Is insurrection legal in Thailand if you succeed?

 

Does Thai law make a special provision if you are a member of the military?

 

Just askin'

 

 

 

You would think Prayut would give them medals after all they helped him into power 

[gunderhill]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

serving the nation, religion and king,

Only ONE  of those is relevant and necessary .

[gunderhill]

13 minutes ago, VincentRJ said:

You seem confused. The military is not a cause. It's an organization funded by the people, through their taxes, and exists in order to protect the society from disruptive intruders. The military was just doing its job when it took over control. Would you prefer a situation like what happened recently at Capitol Hill in Washington?

YES!

[MarleyMarl]

Isn't Suthep the guy who said he doesn't respect foreigners?

[whaleboneman]

28 minutes ago, VincentRJ said:

You seem confused. The military is not a cause. It's an organization funded by the people, through their taxes, and exists in order to protect the society from disruptive intruders. The military was just doing its job when it took over control. Would you prefer a situation like what happened recently at Capitol Hill in Washington?

Talk about confused.

[Phoenix Rising]

35 minutes ago, VincentRJ said:

You seem confused. The military is not a cause. It's an organization funded by the people, through their taxes, and exists in order to protect the society from disruptive intruders. The military was just doing its job when it took over control. Would you prefer a situation like what happened recently at Capitol Hill in Washington?

"....exists in order to protect the society from disruptive intruders."

 

Either you're fresh off the boat or a troll. Which is it?

[spidermike007]

Ever noticed how the only ones who get sentenced here are "former officials", and never those in power. Are we really to believe that the current batch of guys are that free of corruption?

 

Always remember one thing. Prayuth has had a mandate from the beginning to protect the elite, the super wealthy, those that are connected, the police, immigration, customs, the army brass, and all those who are in power. Just think Dark Tao. Just think Red Bull. The list goes on, and on, and on. Only the most naive amongst us believe he or ACT secretary-general Mana Nimitmongkol are sincere about fighting corruption or crime. And the level of corruption simply escalates, the further up the food chain you go. They police and army are not expected to be honest, and they are not expected to engage in law enforcement, traffic or public safety, on any level. It is an irrevocably broken and dysfunctional system. Anything hyperbole to the contrary, is just a smoke screen, intended to deceive the most naive amongst us.  

And the Anti-Corruption Organization of Thailand (ACT) is one of the most feeble and ineffective of all the tools Prayuth has used to deceive the people into believing that he is fighting corruption. Who was the last high level authority, in the police, immigration, the army, or the active administration they arrested, charged, tried convicted, and sent to prison? Current, not past. Nobody. Zero. Nunca. Nada.
 

[spidermike007]

45 minutes ago, VincentRJ said:

You seem confused. The military is not a cause. It's an organization funded by the people, through their taxes, and exists in order to protect the society from disruptive intruders. The military was just doing its job when it took over control. Would you prefer a situation like what happened recently at Capitol Hill in Washington?

Just doing its job, huh? And then 5 years later, when they had promised to turn over the reins of power, they were just doing their jobs, when they changed the constitution, loaded up the senate with their cronies, and decided to hold "an election", and maintain power? Delusion can be a very powerful force. 

[Sydebolle]

Reminds me of a saying which contains kettle and pot or something to that tune .... somewhat related to legalized junta with a little rigging at the side ....... 

[klauskunkel]

1 hour ago, VincentRJ said:

You seem confused. The military is not a cause. It's an organization funded by the people, through their taxes, and exists in order to protect the society from disruptive intruders. The military was just doing its job when it took over control. Would you prefer a situation like what happened recently at Capitol Hill in Washington?

The military exists to protect a country and society from exterior forces. The police exists to protect a country and society from interior forces. 

[hansnl]

8 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

The one person who should be behind bars !

I take it that if you make yourself P.M., then amend the rules  to make yourself untouchable, that is accepted in the Thai justice system ?

 

The laws of the land are made in the parliament, the courts need to obey the law.

A country where courts supplant the lawmakers is a sorry country.

[metisdead]

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