As per usual, Anutin's talking in circles! (Gobbledegook!)

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand's DPM and health minister Anutin Charnvirakul was pressed by the Thai press yesterday for answers about when quarantine for foreign tourists will end.

Considering Thailand has as yet not got to grips with procuring a vaccine in any great numbers, and will not be manufacturing a vaccine until June at the earliest, let alone using it on the population, how they can open up the country is beyond comprehension.

1 hour ago, chang1 said:

If Pfizer and Moderna want to get registered surly they can only deal directly with the government. 

They can, but got a slow response, while another Thai manufacturer has already got the green light.

 

6 hours ago, Big Yuley said:

just pathetic reading all this <deleted>.

What a totally inept pathetic government Thailand has.

Yeah you're right there, took a bit of time before people realized it though........   And the bonus is,  they're not done yet........  

Not buying imported vaccines between now and the start of local production seems penny wise and pound foolish.  The more quickly Thais can be vaccinated, the more quickly restrictions could be eased.  I'm curious about the reason that the AstraZeneca raw materials can't be supplied until June.  On various international news shows, it is said that the race is on between getting people vaccinated and the development of new and perhaps more dangerous strains of the virus.   It is just possible that within the next three months a strain will emerge that the present vaccines cannot effectively protect against.  I don't know the credence of the existence of new strains in Brazil that can cause second and third infections just as deadly as the present strains.  If those strains were to spread widely, it would be, as they say, a new ballgame.

9 hours ago, webfact said:

He gave an answer that looked like stalling

So, nothing "concrete" yet!!!!

You watch, China will leap to the rescue and save the day, justifying flogging the country to them in the not too distant future......

9 hours ago, webfact said:

He gave an answer that looked like stalling, notes Thaivisa.

what else should we expect from him  555

A bit off topic in spite of the rules being relax I believe one still has to go through the long and painful process of obtaining a C.O.E. although it is mentioned the quarantine is being reduce you are still required to obtain insurance 100,000 USD with age and length of stay especially a year it can run 140,000 baht?

Anyone recently especially from the West Coast U.S. gone through the process and enter Thailand?  What was the length of time it took 1-2 months to go through all the hoops and get in?  Thanks

2 hours ago, Chicken George said:

This will all depend surely on vaccine roll out here... 

Before the vaccine existed, all governments were saying "don't worry, the vaccine will be here soon and we'll be back to normal almost immediately". Now the reality that the vaccine is not the panacea that it was touted to be has been realised, governments are already starting to talk about further lockdowns. Anyone would think that governments liked being in lockdown. But then again, MPs are sitting in their big houses drinking expensive wine on full pay, so I'm sure that they want more lockdowns. They are getting richer and richer for doing very little, whilst everyone else is suffering.

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Anutin said that the 14 day quarantine was over and would be replaced by 10 days and 7 days for tourists who had been vaccinated but where Thailand goes from here depends on the vaccine rollout.

????

PICK A NUMBER BETWEEN 1 AND 14 ,,,,

36 minutes ago, BenDeCosta said:

Before the vaccine existed, all governments were saying "don't worry, the vaccine will be here soon and we'll be back to normal almost immediately".

And this time last year it was "We only need a three week lockdown to flatten the curve."  Ah-huh

Power freaks use their powers and then never again relinquish those powers until the entire system breaks down, as in a war or a complete collapse of society.

The writing was in the wall by March of last year.   Interesting read below in a prescient sort of way.  You can do an Internet search.  Entertaining in retrospect.

We’re not going back to normal
by Gideon Lichfield, The MIT Technology Review, March 17, 2020
 

Stick with the Quarantine measures to go by 1st October 2021

When a lot of the Country has been vaccinated 

Would make more sense and people can start planning for the arrival of tourists in mass 

9 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I get the feeling people are ready to come back, I know a few that are not willing to do the 14 day nonsense 

I have almost completed one full year of monthly Covid nose and throat swab tests and by monthly nose, swab and blood tests for Oxford-AstraZeneca  research all of which have proven negative for Covid infection, and I have now had my first vaccination with the second coming on May 1.

So the Thai government can be absolutely 100% sure that having jumped through all of the above hoops I will not go into quarantine for more than a day no matter how much I want to return.

 

10 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I suspect everyone present came away more confused about what the hell is going on than they were before Anutin opened his mouth.

How much are the people writing this trash being paid, TOO MUCH!

11 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

"We don't know" would have been the obvious answer, instead of rambling on as usual ! 

Saying " I don't know" for such a senior government minister would involve a serious loss of face, which is why he waffled instead.

11 hours ago, webfact said:

He gave an answer that looked like stalling, notes Thaivisa

Brain stuck in neutral before his mouth sounds off more like .. 

11 hours ago, webfact said:

"if they accept us we'll accept them". 

We'll show you ours if you show us yours then ..

3 hours ago, BenDeCosta said:

Before the vaccine existed, all governments were saying "don't worry, the vaccine will be here soon and we'll be back to normal almost immediately". Now the reality that the vaccine is not the panacea that it was touted to be has been realised, governments are already starting to talk about further lockdowns. Anyone would think that governments liked being in lockdown. But then again, MPs are sitting in their big houses drinking expensive wine on full pay, so I'm sure that they want more lockdowns. They are getting richer and richer for doing very little, whilst everyone else is suffering.

Whoever you quoted that said "immediately" has a different meaning for it than the rest of us. Vaccines are definitely the best way out and are working better than expected. The problem is getting people to want them after the idiotic goings on in Europe over AZ. I'm glad here in the UK most people can see through all that nonsense. 

Roll on Monday when I get my first Pfizer jab and my father gets his second. 

Supremely confusing, to say the least. 

 

8 hours ago, radjag said:

 

Ah! So it is the drug companies who want to deal directly with Government. Not certain representatives who insist that the Drug Companies deal through them? Right! 

And what does he mean, why would an emergency decree keep a vaccine from arriving? Sounds like he is trying to blame some country without blaming any

What the <deleted>. My wife and I was to visit Bangkok and Hua Hin in November. Our we going or <deleted> what?

I stick to my forecast that next January , travel to Thailand will be viable.

Really??? So vaccinated means squat ...still have to do 10 nights quarantine. What a lot of bs.  

10 hours ago, Guderian said:

Prayut: "We've got this system in Thailand that has been tried and tested over the last year, and it works very well at keeping the virus under control if infected people arrive from overseas. It's probably already saved thousands, if not tens of thousands of Thai lives, and hundreds of billions, if not trillions of Baht for businesses that would have had to shut down or curtail their activities if there had been a major outbreak. Not only that, but the Thai government has been applauded by governments and health professional around the world for its effective handling of the Covid situation."

Anutin: "Chai krup, it has been a great success, so now I propose that we abandon it and return to our normally stupid and disjointed behaviour by dropping the quarantine requirement for anybody who can buy a piece of paper resembling a vaccination certificate on the internet. What could possibly go wrong?" 

I’ll back up my jabs in my arm TWICE with evidence....paper trail and photos ????????

18 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

I'll wait for the latter...

What happened to the ???? 7 days??? Deferred for what??????  Oh i forgot.  ALMIGHTY BAHT

whatever they are smoking need to get off it 

8 hours ago, chang1 said:

Whoever you quoted that said "immediately" has a different meaning for it than the rest of us. Vaccines are definitely the best way out and are working better than expected. The problem is getting people to want them after the idiotic goings on in Europe over AZ. I'm glad here in the UK most people can see through all that nonsense. 

Roll on Monday when I get my first Pfizer jab and my father gets his second. 

All true, and the reality is that it will take many months in all countries to get the majority vaccinated. And we all need to remember that the vaccines have been assessed as being effective, but it's all new, there are still many unknowns and everybody is keeping their fingers crossed that the various vaccines do have good effect, and it's quite possible boosters will be needed perhaps every 12 months...

The sooner Thailand gets started the better but it seems as usual chaos seems to be the order of the day (with a PM who is obviously lost) and with way too many gov't people making silly uncoordinated and  uneducated/professional comments about the vaccine and about changes to quarantine stuff.

5 hours ago, Bkktodd said:

Really??? So vaccinated means squat ...still have to do 10 nights quarantine. What a lot of bs.  

Until and unless there is a change, you have to do 15 day quarantine.

No shortage of vaccines...but he left out the rest of the sentence...in 2022.