Do you just drink water when you are thirsty, or...

[nrasmussen]

3 hours ago, Freddy42OZ said:

 

The glasses measurement is confusing.   

The standard measurement is apparently 8 x 8oz glasses, which makes no sense really as that is only 2/3 of a can and who the hell uses glasses that are only 8oz?  most drinking glasses I've ever owned are 12-16 oz.

 

At the end of the day as long as you are drinking at least one litre of water (not beer), then your kidneys are getting enough water to operate properly, assuming you aren't also making them work overtime because of other stuff you are consuming.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, following this thread is not easy, as many posters are using archaic and ambiguous units. I wish everyone would simply stick to SI units.

[ren987]

https://lkandia.blogspot.com/2021/03/hydration-overwhelming-evidence-that-we.html

 

This was shared on a private forum, one of the members who has (with sources and self experiment) broken down the most common thoughts on this topic. It was an useful read for me as i am also 80kg male like the writer.

 

Includes considerations such as diuretic effects of alcohol and caffiene, and activity levels. Hope it helps, everyone just needs to do their own experiments too.

 

Interestingly enough it is in line with the "prescription" of water for me from a yoga healer, but with a more science approach.

[4MyEgo]

On 3/28/2021 at 6:31 PM, giddyup said:

The question is whether you drink (or try to) the recommended 8 glasses of water a day, or do you just drink when thirsty? Not if you drink beer or anything else.

 

I always have with me a 600m plastic bottle. PBA free, screw top with a flip top to drink the water out of. It never leaves myside, it goes with me when in the car, the dining table, work station, bedside table. I drink 3 bottles a day which is about 6 glasses of water, although I do drink another bottle when on the treadmill with some electrolyte powder in it.

 

They say the more water you drink, the less hungry you will feel and it is a good way to lose weight, this is true and how I once lost 15kg, i.e. until the wife started making different dishes, aroy muk muk and the kilo's went on, hard to stop when the food is different and so so tasty, no will power to stop when it comes to good quality food, even when she puts me smaller portions, I just get more until the belly is SO full and satisfied.

 

If you can't get 8 glasses of water down, throw some ice in with this HOT weather and watch it disappear, especially after you wash the car. 

Edited April 1, 2021 by 4MyEgo

[daveAustin]

Op, the 8 glasses was a shot in the dark. Your body will tel you when to drink... after all, the f'king thing evolved somehow, and not through drinking pure water. Issue in the tropics especially is lack of electrolytes and hyponatremia. Bottom line, exercise/shhhaaag /air con lots, drink more but not too mutt water-only or in one go. It should be supped continuously through the day. Gulp it and piiisss  kidneys off lol.

Edited April 1, 2021 by daveAustin

[ren987]

On 4/1/2021 at 9:23 AM, 4MyEgo said:

They say the more water you drink, the less hungry you will feel and it is a good way to lose weight, this is true and how I once lost 15kg, i.e. until the wife started making different dishes, aroy muk muk and the kilo's went on, hard to stop when the food is different and so so tasty, no will power to stop when it comes to good quality food, even when she puts me smaller portions, I just get more until the belly is SO full and satisfied.

 

 

I think the mechanism is more along the lines of  "Mild dehydration is often masked as feelings of hunger, when really your body just needs fluids," says Alissa Rumsey, RD, spokesperson for the American Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. (emphasis not mine)

 

rather than less hunger because you were drinking, might be due to chronic dehydration. I feel like im losing a lot of moisture via my skin in the constant Air-conditioned environment (no science tho)

[moldresistant]

Warren Buffett - 90 years old and 25% of his calories come from Coca Cola.

[Seattle2k]

On 3/28/2021 at 1:49 AM, giddyup said:

I can understand it if you are sweating a lot or exercising, but if you aren't do you really need 8 glasses a day?

I don't live in Thailand, nor do I live in a hot climate. Yet, my skin can get dry, particularly on my face. I have found that if I drink 8 glasses of water each day, for about a week, my skin dryness goes away. Also, your body will flush more of the bad stuff out of your system. And, drinking this much water will also lower your food consumption, since your stomache is more full.

 

Anyhow, I don't always drink 8 glasses of water per day, but when I do, I can actually see the benefits that it brings.

[judokrab]

The 8 glasses a day thing is a myth. Ignore it.

The source of this myth was a 1945 Food and Nutrition Board recommendation that said people need about 2.5 liters of water a day. But they ignored the sentence that followed. It read, “Most of this quantity is contained in prepared foods.”
 

[judokrab]

On 3/30/2021 at 8:14 PM, khunPer said:

Might depend of how big a class is, and also your body size.

A standard "glass" is 8 fluid ounces (240ml).

[judokrab]

Just aim to drink water if you feel thirsty, or if your urine looks dark, or if you are about to exercise. There is no need to measure anything.

[nrasmussen]

19 minutes ago, judokrab said:

A standard "glass" is 8 fluid ounces (240ml).

 

So we're actually talking about 2 l. Thanks for clearing that up.

[KannikaP]

On 4/1/2021 at 9:23 AM, 4MyEgo said:

especially after you wash the car. 

WHAAAAT?

Don't you need a work permit for that, as a Thai can do it instead.

Edited April 3, 2021 by KannikaP

[Hanaguma]

If you are bored with water, try some decent non-caffienated iced teas.  Japanese barley tea (mugi-cha) is supremely refreshing and zero calories. So is oolong tea. Or just make what my grandma called "sun tea"- leave a bottle of water with a tea bag in it on a sunny balcony for a couple hours. It steeps nicely.  Add ice/lemon and enjoy.  I found lots of fruit teas in Thailand that were great when chilled. Just takes a modicum of preparation. 

[Daffy D]

 

Get a pint glass

Fill with ice cube

Add a teaspoon of salt

Fill with Coca-Cola

????

[Kwaibill]

On 3/28/2021 at 3:28 PM, KannikaP said:

 A small beer bottle is 33ml. 10 x 33ml is only 3.3 litres. Over a 16 hour day, that's not much.

Incorrect. A standard drinks bottle, such as Chang, is 320 ml., or 620 ml. for the large. Your 10 33 ml. is just over one regular sized beer. Correct that ten beers is over three litres.????

[KannikaP]

32 minutes ago, Kwaibill said:

Incorrect. A standard drinks bottle, such as Chang, is 320 ml., or 620 ml. for the large. Your 10 33 ml. is just over one regular sized beer. Correct that ten beers is over three litres.????

How many times do I need to apologise for saying 33ml instead of 33CL, or 330 ml. 

[pgrahmm]

46 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

How many times do I need to apologise for saying 33ml instead of 33CL, or 330 ml. 

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.....

Or metric equivalent ????

[DerbyDan]

No, I can drink soda water all day though.

[canthai55]

[WaveHunter]

On 4/3/2021 at 4:56 PM, judokrab said:

The 8 glasses a day thing is a myth. Ignore it.

The source of this myth was a 1945 Food and Nutrition Board recommendation that said people need about 2.5 liters of water a day. But they ignored the sentence that followed. It read, “Most of this quantity is contained in prepared foods.”
 

Yes, just another of the many baseless nutritional myths out there today. 

 

So much nutritional advice you hear these days is just plain myth.  Your own body is smart enough to know how much water it needs.  Just listen to your body instead of all of these health gurus who constantly come up with these silly "rules" like 8-glasses-of-water-per-day.

 

Rules like that are silly because the amount of water you need per day depends on what kind of activity you're engaged in and the environment you're exposed to.

 

If you spend all day indoors in an air-conditioned environment you don't necessarily need 8 glasses a day.

 

On the other hand, If you spend a lot of time outdoors on hot days and do extreme activities like running or cycling, you probably need more than 8 glasses a day.

 

There are no hard and fast rules except the general guideline to watch the color of your urine; if it's too dark then you know you know your activity is causing too much water loss.

[brian stoner]

I rarely use an actual 'glass', but I drink probably about 6-8 of the 'smaller' size of bottled water over the course of a day.  I know there are a large number of sizes out there, but these are the 600ml size. We have two bins in the kitchen, one full of 1 liter bottles and one of these .6L, and we refill them from a water-filter mounted on the wall. They're easy to fit in the fridges.

   When I was teaching my kids all knew my water bottles....they were the (strong) plastic bottles that the 'Smile' brand of orange-juice came in, and they had the advantages of being:

A. made of STRONG plastic, unbreakable if dropped  (and WAY quieter than the kids' fancy (expensive) anodized metal 'bottles', which, when dropped, would make a surprise "clank" loud enough to give the class a collective coronary)

B. full 1 liter size,

C. brightly labeled, so hard to overlook,

D. free!  Buy the orange juice (delicious, BTW) and get the bottle.

I hate to throw a good bottle like that away, so I used them as water bottles, kept about a dozen at my apartment.  The lightweight plastic kinds you get in the 7-11s are very thin-walled, and don't last long. Plus, these were 1 full liter, so fewer refills, as between the speaking and the air-con,  I would go through about 4 of those during the working day, plus some more water or beer at night.

Edited April 6, 2021 by brian stoner
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[elliss]

On 3/28/2021 at 2:28 PM, Kwasaki said:

I drink water with lemon cordial, also in tea, coffee and beer. 

 

    Leo beer . 

     Water,  not reqd ...555

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, elliss said:

 

    Leo beer . 

     Water,  not reqd ...555

Agree that's why I drink Chang.

[ChipButty]

16 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Agree that's why I drink Chang.

Couple of large one everyday does me no harm

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, ChipButty said:

Couple of large one everyday does me no harm

Yeah when getting older keeps ya alive help stop blood clotting and make ya happy. 

[elliss]

3 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Couple of large one everyday does me no harm

 

    Makes you happy . Enjoy .

    Better than being a boring,   Kindler ..

[The Hammer2021]

Two litres a day is recommended helping to  prevent diverticulitis and constipation.  Start with three large glasses of water in the morning one hour before eating

[WaveHunter]

14 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Two litres a day is recommended helping to  prevent diverticulitis and constipation.  Start with three large glasses of water in the morning one hour before eating

Drinking water is not really an effective cure or remedy.  Proper hydration really only consists in drinking enough water to ensure that your urine is no darker than a light yellow color.  Any more water than that is not really beneficial to health, regardless of what many health gurus will try and tell you. 

 

So many health myths these days, and most of them just don't hold water when you look at the underlying science. ????

 

To  prevent diverticulitis and constipation, you really should focus more on improving your nutrition and lifestyle.  Get more roughage in your diet, eat less processed carb-rich food, and be more active.  That's the ticket!

 

The best short-term remedy is basic psyllium husks mixed with water once or twice a day to quickly relieve symptoms, usually in less than 24 hours.  

 

You can easily order on Lazada.  Here's a link to one of the best brands I've found here in Thailand.  It is 100% natural with no sugar or chemical additives, and it's very inexpensive, compared to what you'd pay in western countries:

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/i593894401-s1114460632.html?urlFlag=true&mp=1

 

 

Note: processed products like Metamucil are NOT what you want. Raw psyllium husks contain no additives like sugar or chemicals that are found in the processed products.

 

Edited April 8, 2021 by WaveHunter

[unblocktheplanet]

On 3/28/2021 at 4:25 PM, orchis said:

I tend to forget to drink enough since I lost my sense of thirst.

Boyo, are you winding us up here?!?

[The Hammer2021]

On 4/8/2021 at 11:04 AM, WaveHunter said:

Drinking water is not really an effective cure or remedy.  Proper hydration really only consists in drinking enough water to ensure that your urine is no darker than a light yellow color.  Any more water than that is not really beneficial to health, regardless of what many health gurus will try and tell you. 

 

So many health myths these days, and most of them just don't hold water when you look at the underlying science. ????

 

To  prevent diverticulitis and constipation, you really should focus more on improving your nutrition and lifestyle.  Get more roughage in your diet, eat less processed carb-rich food, and be more active.  That's the ticket!

 

The best short-term remedy is basic psyllium husks mixed with water once or twice a day to quickly relieve symptoms, usually in less than 24 hours.  

 

You can easily order on Lazada.  Here's a link to one of the best brands I've found here in Thailand.  It is 100% natural with no sugar or chemical additives, and it's very inexpensive, compared to what you'd pay in western countries:

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/i593894401-s1114460632.html?urlFlag=true&mp=1

 

 

Note: processed products like Metamucil are NOT what you want. Raw psyllium husks contain no additives like sugar or chemicals that are found in the processed products.

 

I don't mention hydration in my post. However, I use psyllium as I live with diverticulitosis and nearly died from diverticulitis. Sat Igbol is the Indian name for psyllium and it is much cheaper to buy at Indian shops but won't be organic. I buy expensive psyllium at GNC here in Thailand. The advice I received on water consumption came from more than 5 doctors including specialists on three different continents. The three glasses of warm water consumed after  waking up and an hour before eating was originally introduced to me via Japan. I believe there is science behind it.

Edited April 9, 2021 by The Hammer2021