New Thai "Vaccine Passport" revealed

[webfact]

Picture: Sanook

 

The new so-called Thai "Vaccine Passport" has been revealed in an announcement in the Government Gazette.

 

The document features only English language on its front page stating that it is issued by the Department of Disease Control of the Ministry of Public Health. 

 

There is the garuda emblem then space for the person it is issued to, passport or National ID number. 

 

Sanook reported that inside there is a listing of when the first and second dose of vaccine was administered, which one it was and a stamp.

 

It states that the vaccine must be one approved by the Thai or WHO authorities. 

 

It warns that there must be no crossings out or alternations/imperfections.

 

This was announced by Opas Kanwinpong on the 16th of April. 

 

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[SmartyMarty]

Is this for traveling within Thailand, for tourists coming in, or for Thai people traveling abroad?

[ezzra]

6 minutes ago, webfact said:

The document features only English language on its front page stating that it is issued by the Department of Disease Control of the Ministry of Public Health. 

Assuming that ALL Thai people can read English, this document will be helpful, but since NOT ALL Thai people can read what it says on the card, what is it good for than?...

[canopus1969]

Soon to be seen on Aliexpress, just supply your ID number when buying

[zzzzz]

8 minutes ago, ezzra said:

Assuming that ALL Thai people can read English, this document will be helpful, but since NOT ALL Thai people can read what it says on the card, what is it good for than?...

doesn't matter if the holder can read English or not,

as long as the person checking it can  ????

 

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 for tourists coming in

HUH? how would a tourist coming in get a Thai document?

Obvious (at least to me) its for EVERYONE who gets the shots in Thailand will be issued one

Edited April 21, 2021 by zzzzz

[internationalism]

will be issued only for those travelling abroad.

but if not connected to a database, this will be just a piece of carton paper with stamps, which can be very easy to forge.

I don't think international airlines and foreign countries will be accepting such poor document.

Why not to wait for the WHO guidelines and the other international organisations, like IATA. Many of them were planning those vax passports for long.

Especially, that in thailand very, very few people are vaccinated.

It's just a falstart 

[Excel]

6 minutes ago, internationalism said:

will be issued only for those travelling abroad.

but if not connected to a database, this will be just a piece of carton paper with stamps, which can be very easy to forge.

I don't think international airlines and foreign countries will be accepting such poor document.

Why not to wait for the WHO guidelines and the other international organisations, like IATA. Many of them were planning those vax passports for long.

Especially, that in thailand very, very few people are vaccinated.

It's just a falstart 

Because the Thai government always now best

Edited April 21, 2021 by Excel

[wasabi]

I bet 2 copies of this will be needed at immigration. They will include a half functioning website to go with it and some mysterious bureaucratic process that results in fines.

[Phuketshrew]

53 minutes ago, internationalism said:

don't think international airlines and foreign countries will be accepting such poor document.

It looks easy to forge so I would agree. Why not a chipped plastic card instead? 

Edited April 21, 2021 by Phuketshrew

[ikke1959]

I have an vaccination passport for many years already. Hope I can use that. It is international recognised 

[zzzzz]

41 minutes ago, wasabi said:

I bet 2 copies of this will be needed at immigration. They will include a half functioning website to go with it and some mysterious bureaucratic process that results in fines.

why? my yellow card which lists vaccinations has no "website" to back it up>
why would a covid passport book have one?

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will be issued only for those travelling abroad.

I would venture to say EVERYIONE who gets the vaccine would  be issued this card, booklet as it shows you got your shots, which vaccine and when..

Edited April 21, 2021 by zzzzz

[Disparate Dan]

59 minutes ago, internationalism said:

Why not to wait for the WHO guidelines and the other international organisations, like IATA.

Indeed. IATA still expects "a larger deployment" of its own plan before the end of April. "Many airline partners will be integrating IATA Travel Pass within their own app" - https://www.iata.org/en/youandiata/travelers/iata-travel-pass-for-travelers/

[edit: THAI Airways is one of the airlines listed. Bet government doesn't know, though]

Note that IATA says any such pass would be free to passengers. I'm currently offering copies of the Thai version at a very special price............

Edited April 21, 2021 by Disparate Dan

[internationalism]

6 minutes ago, Phuketshrew said:

It looks easy to forge so I would agree. Why not a chipped plastic card instead? 

they don't have imagination, skills.

just showing off that they are proactive.

this passport will never be used by travellers, because there would be better alternatives.

They would have to wait at check in, at the borders, to be verified. If any small problem they would be barred from travel. So not worth risk, even if will be given free

[cvs04]

I'm still struggling with the logic behind these vaccine passports.  If the said vaccine doesn't prevent transmission or stop you from catching it what exactly are these in aid of?

[kwonitoy]

23 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

I have an vaccination passport for many years already. Hope I can use that. It is international recognised 

 

When I started working internationally in O&G in the early 90's we had to go to the clinic in Edmonton. We would tell them where in the world we were going and had vaccine boosters and updates that everyone should have plus some area specific one added in.

 

Polio booster, you should have one every 10 years

for Thailand I got JEV, Diphtheria,

For Africa, Yellow fever

Russia, had to have a blood test to prove AIDS free

 

I can't remember the rest but I had a card in the back of my passport with the booster types, inoculation dates and signed by the administrating doctor. It was about 8 or so, all with multiple injections.

 

I remember coming from Africa back to Thailand and if I didn't show proof of a Yellow fever inoculation it would have been off to the hospital for one.

[HANGOVER TWO]

4 hours ago, internationalism said:

will be issued only for those travelling abroad.

but if not connected to a database, this will be just a piece of carton paper with stamps, which can be very easy to forge.

I don't think international airlines and foreign countries will be accepting such poor document.

Why not to wait for the WHO guidelines and the other international organisations, like IATA. Many of them were planning those vax passports for long.

Especially, that in thailand very, very few people are vaccinated.

It's just a falstart 

They will accept if there is a number to check in a data base, I think. 

[FitnessHealthTravel]

Arrr...they'll be on the black market as soon as they come out...

[BobBKK]

I think it's a good thing to show you have been vaccinated. No vaccine = no travel so take your choice.

[Deli]

20 minutes ago, HANGOVER TWO said:

in a data base, I think. 

 

Data Bank incorrect due to human failure or Internet down in Timbuktu... no travel. Me not travel, me stay here.

[Dogmatix]

555. A vaccine passports but no vaccines.  What funny chaps they are!

[Mr Meeseeks]

This is nothing new, I have had one of these for over twenty years!

[tandor]

6 hours ago, SmartyMarty said:

Is this for traveling within Thailand, for tourists coming in, or for Thai people traveling abroad?

...ah..the fine print.

[tandor]

..just wait till Khaosoy Rd gets their hands on this doc..maybe got it already!

[Venom]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Sanook reported that inside there is a listing of when the first and second dose of vaccine was administered, which one it was and a stamp

 

Exactly and you'll likely be needing anual updates for new variants in order to travel. Welcome to the future.

[onekoolguy]

6 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

It looks easy to forge so I would agree. Why not a chipped plastic card instead? 

no no no, has to be a chip inserted within the host and connected to a world wide data base! Needed to travel, enter stores, drive a vehicle, buy food, rent a room, collect funds from your account, etc.

[Partenavia]

More importantly will Thailand accept foreign vaccine passports, which probably would not have the obligatory stamp, so loved by Thai bureaucracy. Pretty pointless exercise without international approval. 

[EricTh]

This vaccine passport will be a required document to travel to Thailand in the future.

 

Where can I get one?

[EricTh]

27 minutes ago, Partenavia said:

More importantly will Thailand accept foreign vaccine passports, which probably would not have the obligatory stamp, so loved by Thai bureaucracy. Pretty pointless exercise without international approval. 

If you want to travel to Thailand frequently, it's better to get one from Thailand.

 

How will immigration know whether these foreign vaccine passports are fake or genuine?

[connda]

Up next: Vaccine Apartheid. 
Refuse to take an experimental vaccine and be regulated to a  new caste of Covid-Untouchables. 
 
At this time, The World Health Organization does not endorse "vaccine passports." That can be easily sourced online.

It's one thing to require proven and licensed vaccines.  I get that.  I take proven and licensed vaccines myself: rabies, hep-b, and others.
It's something else to require that people are forced to participate in experimental vaccine live-trials which is what this all is.  You are required by sign a consent form to take any of the current experimental vaccines authorized by "emergency decree."  By signing it you are stating that you "voluntarily consent."  In addition, all vaccine manufacturers have been granted complete indemnity from damages should their experimental vaccines harm you.  Get sick or die?  Too bad.

The Nuremberg Code of the Geneva Convention explicitly states as it's number one top bullet point:
"The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.  This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion." 
Thailand is a signatory to this convention.

Once your basic human rights are impinged via a Covid Passport, then you are being forced - under duress - to take a shot via "force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion" otherwise you will be the object of government and corporate discrimination and subjected to curtailed personal freedoms. Those restrictions have yet to be stated, but they could become Machiavellian in nature bordering on repressive and unethical. That is the definition of "duress."

History is replete with examples of where this leads, none of them good for those who become the objects of a Covid-vaccine apartheid that may promote a policy of segregating and economically and politically oppressing those who refuse to consent to taking an experimental Covid vaccine.
We are not there yet, but it seems the direction that this and other countries may be headed.

[Presnock]

Many states and the US government do not have and say they won't have a vaccine passport and unless the vaccine is one approved by the nation a Thai will visit, I don't think this Thai document will mean anything to the arrival folks.  I as an old fart have had several of the "yellow" vaccine documents that were recognized around the world but not sure what this new document would do for me as the vaccines the Thais are currently using are not approved by the US at this time.