Respiratory disease specialist objects to BMA plan to administer Favipiravir to all COVID-19 patients

[snoop1130]

 

The president of the Thoracic Society of Thailand, and head of the Department of Respiratory Diseases and Tuberculosis at Mahidol University, Dr. Nitipat Jiarakul, has voiced disagreement with the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration’s (BMA) plan to administer the Favipiravir anti-viral drug to all COVID-19 patients in field hospitals.

 

In his Facebook post today (Tuesday), Dr. Nitipat said that Favipiravir is registered in Thailand’s list of approved drugs and was approved for use in COVID-19 patients suffering from serious lung infections, as a special case, to prevent the spread of the disease during the first wave of COVID-19 pandemic, which was in short supply.

 

He said the working committee, tasked with supervising the use of the drug, then believed that the drug would reduce the severity of the symptoms induced by COVID-19 and could save lives, although the drug, which is manufactured in Japan, was not used in the West and, hence, there are is no scientific evidence of its efficacy in treating COVID-19.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/respiratory-disease-specialist-objects-to-bma-plan-to-administer-favipiravir-to-all-covid-19-patients/

 

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[Shuya]

As useful as Krapaow but more money to make

[Phuketshrew]

I hear that Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) was a game changer in the US, along with the injecting of disinfectant ...

I think I'll stick with my Gin and Tonic's ????

[from the home of CC]

12 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

was not used in the West and, hence, there are is no scientific evidence of its efficacy in treating COVID-19.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7467067/  - the insert below comes from this source

 

Favipiravir was first used against SARS-CoV-2 in Wuhan at the very epicenter of the pandemic. Then, as the pandemic spread to Europe, this drug received approval for emergency use in Italy, and currently has been in use in Japan, Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Moldova, and Kazakhstan. Approval has also recently been granted in Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Thereafter, Turkey, Bangladesh, and most recently Egypt have also seen recent commercial launches. In June 2020, favipiravir received the DCGI approval in India for mild and moderate COVID-19 infections

 

this Dr. imo needs to catch up on his reading. I have no idea whether it's efficacious or not but there is evidence from many sources..

[Surelynot]

23 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

although the drug, which is manufactured in Japan, was not used in the West and, hence, there are is no scientific evidence of its efficacy in treating COVID-19.

So this drug is being used with no evidence of any efficacy? 

[Bkk Brian]

From the full article in the link:

 

"the carefree use of the drug for all patients may lead to complacency among doctors, who may depend more on the drug than on proper care of the patients"

 

I fear thats exactly what may be happening. Well said doctor!

[sammieuk1]

Phone Matt Hancock ask him the best treatment and follow it simple as that you fools ???? 

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, sammieuk1 said:

Phone Matt Hancock ask him the best treatment and follow it simple as that you fools ???? 

Having managed to kill 156,000.............. not keen on that as a solution.

[sammieuk1]

1 minute ago, Surelynot said:

Having managed to kill 156,000.............. not keen on that as a solution.

He only killed 1 yesterday forget the past if you made it ????

[connda]

7 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

in Japan, was not used in the West and, hence, there are is no scientific evidence of its efficacy in treating COVID-19.

There are scientists capable of publishing scientific studies in Thailand. Between "experimental Covid vaccines" and novel treatments, this all is one huge, global experiment.

[Surelynot]

Just now, sammieuk1 said:

He only killed 1 yesterday forget the past if you made it ????

Losing his touch.

[edwardandtubs]

19 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7467067/  - the insert below comes from this source

 

Favipiravir was first used against SARS-CoV-2 in Wuhan at the very epicenter of the pandemic. Then, as the pandemic spread to Europe, this drug received approval for emergency use in Italy, and currently has been in use in Japan, Russia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Moldova, and Kazakhstan. Approval has also recently been granted in Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Thereafter, Turkey, Bangladesh, and most recently Egypt have also seen recent commercial launches. In June 2020, favipiravir received the DCGI approval in India for mild and moderate COVID-19 infections

 

this Dr. imo needs to catch up on his reading. I have no idea whether it's efficacious or not but there is evidence from many sources..

I think the doctor knows more than you do, old boy. The article you post is 8 months out of date and the drug has since been proven to be completely useless. There are better treatment options available.

[Yorkshire Tea]

I was hoping that, after over a year of waiting for this virus to hit Thailand, the docs would be up to speed with how to treat patients!

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, Yorkshire Tea said:

I was hoping that, after over a year of waiting for this virus to hit Thailand, the docs would be up to speed with how to treat patients!

D'ya think?

[Yorkshire Tea]

8 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

D'ya think?

"Hoping"

[ukrules]

24 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

the drug has since been proven to be completely useless.

 

That's what I heard as well. Something else to consider is - what are the side effects of this drug?

 

[Walkabout]

Favipavir, drugs, vaccines, all based on serious studies and rigorous tests . . .

 

Here is a serious opinion:

 

"It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine." -Marcia Angell, MD ("Drug Companies and Doctors: A story of Corruption." NY Review of Books, Jan. 15, 2009.)

Edited May 4, 2021 by blackcab
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[Walkabout]

And how serious is all this? In my country, in the beginning, the AstraZeneca vaccine was not allowed for people over 65 and the second jab given 3 to 4 weeks later. A month and an half later, the same Astrazeneca is given to people older than 65 by priority, with the second jab given about 3 months later. . .  Rigorous science.

 

I took the jab reluctantly, hoping to return "soon" to my wife in Thailand . . .

[Excel]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

Having managed to kill 156,000.............. not keen on that as a solution.

That's grossly unfair on him, after all accidents do happen ????

[Gulfsailor]

1 hour ago, edwardandtubs said:

I think the doctor knows more than you do, old boy. The article you post is 8 months out of date and the drug has since been proven to be completely useless. There are better treatment options available.

There have only been very little research done to date on Favipiravir and it’s effect on Covid in humans. Here is one small study showing a positive effect; https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00705-021-04956-9

 

In the UK they have just started a large trial into Favipiravir. 
https://www.nihr.ac.uk/news/favipiravir-to-be-investigated-as-a-possible-covid-19-treatment-for-at-home-recovery-in-the-principle-trial/27426

 

“The decision to add favipiravir to the trial was made by the University of Oxford researchers and trial steering committee leading the trial in conjunction with the Chief Medical Officer, following a recommendation by the UK COVID-19 Therapeutics Advisory Panel.”

 

[smedly]

but Anutin the builder and highly qualified health professional knows better 

 

 

better listen to him or you might face some attitude adjustment 

 

His lack of knowledge on the health of the nation is measured on how much money he has and how much he continues to make, his money makes him an expert - not 

 

I believe that the thai people are rising to this BS and pretty soon they will all be held to account 

 

They might be feeling very comfortable right now in the power base that they think they have, I have a feeling that the Thai people have had enough

[RichardColeman]

8 hours ago, Walkabout said:

I took the jab reluctantly, hoping to return "soon" to my wife in Thailand . . .

Me too, 13 months now, but I'm getting the feeling Thailand will have landed on the moon with a successful space program before a full vaccine roll out and i can get back to her

Edited May 4, 2021 by RichardColeman

[FitnessHealthTravel]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

no scientific evidence of its efficacy in treating COVID-19.

When is any of their decisions about Science. Pharma is now politics and control...

[MasterBaker]

would this explain a hike in a death percentage recently?

[hotchilli]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

was not used in the West and, hence, there are is no scientific evidence of its efficacy in treating COVID-19.

So pure guess-work on Thailands part?

[hotchilli]

8 hours ago, smedly said:

but Anutin the builder and highly qualified health professional knows better 

 

 

better listen to him or you might face some attitude adjustment 

 

His lack of knowledge on the health of the nation is measured on how much money he has and how much he continues to make, his money makes him an expert - not 

 

I believe that the thai people are rising to this BS and pretty soon they will all be held to account 

 

They might be feeling very comfortable right now in the power base that they think they have, I have a feeling that the Thai people have had enough

There will be no national vote for a very long time to come, Prayut will make sure all this is long gone before another rigging session.

[hotchilli]

14 hours ago, connda said:

There are scientists capable of publishing scientific studies in Thailand.

Publishing house in Khaaosan road?

[Harry Black]

16 hours ago, edwardandtubs said:

I think the doctor knows more than you do, old boy. The article you post is 8 months out of date and the drug has since been proven to be completely useless. There are better treatment options available.

 

Seems its not done and dusted yet, someone thinks its worth a bash! This one less than a month old.

 

https://www.nihr.ac.uk/news/favipiravir-to-be-investigated-as-a-possible-covid-19-treatment-for-at-home-recovery-in-the-principle-trial/27426

[from the home of CC]

22 hours ago, edwardandtubs said:

I think the doctor knows more than you do, old boy. The article you post is 8 months out of date and the drug has since been proven to be completely useless. There are better treatment options available.

you're right, i missed the date..