17 minutes ago, sungod said:

Are you suggesting the UK is lying?

LOL, what made you think I'm suggesting the UK is lying. I stated that in the UK they are currently recording no deaths and yet they are getting more positive cases than Thailand.

 

This is a fact not a lie. 

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1392352448610660356

 

Of the 1,983 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours: - 1,328 were found via tests at medical facilities - 646 via proactive tests - 9 in quarantine facilities

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1392352807097815045

 

The 3rd wave had led to 60,044 cases and 392 deaths between April 1 and May 12 with a mortality rate of 0.65%.

There are 29,378 patients who are being treated at hospitals. Of that, 1,226 are in critical condition including 401 on ventilators.

45 minutes ago, petedk said:

 

I know of 4 vaccinated people being infected. 3 have recovered after suffering mild symptoms. The fourth was placed on a ventilator last night.

I wonder if there are any statistics here showing how many vaccinated people are affected.

The efficacy rates of all the major vaccines is above 90%. That means 90% effective in staving off severe symptoms and death.

 

it’s not unusual to catch the virus after being vaccinated and not impossible to suffer severe symptoms. 
 

it’s all a game of odds and nothing is 100%

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1392357321141932033

 

Today there are 34 deaths in #Thailand which is a new high. Though please note not all died yesterday.

 

16 males and 18 females

Median age 66.5 (33-93 years)

One foreigner from Finland died

Most deaths in Samut Prakan (13), Bangkok (10) and Nakhon Pathom / Pathum Thani (2)

5 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

The efficacy rates of all the major vaccines is above 90%. That means 90% effective in staving off severe symptoms and death.

 

it’s not unusual to catch the virus after being vaccinated and not impossible to suffer severe symptoms. 
 

it’s all a game of odds and nothing is 100%

Actually not. Efficacy in epidemiology has a special meaning. Basically it measure how effective a vaccine is in stopping infection in the vaccinated compared to a control group of the unvaccinated. AZ and Coronovac don't have that high an efficacy. But when it comes to stopping severe symptoms requiring hospitalization and death, they are both very potent.

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392358654678994944

 

For those asking which districts in Bangkok had the most recorded #COVID19 cases for yesterday, here is a color-coded map. All of the dark red districts had 100+ cases #Bangkok #Thailand

 

Official COVID-19 update in Thailand on Wednesday

* 88,907 people infected (+1,983)

* 59,043 discharged from hospital (+2,006)

* 29,378 in hospital

* 486 deaths (+34)

Imported cases - 9

Domestic cases - 1,328

Proactive case finding in communities - 646

Number of people who received vaccines:

1st dose: + 6,021

2nd dose: + 31,090

Total: 1,935,565

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158010596412050

27 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Of the 1,983 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours: - 1,328 were found via tests at medical facilities - 646 via proactive tests - 9 in quarantine facilities

Were these 1983 cases found in the past 24 hour or the number of cases reported today?

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158010513552050

 

Head of the Center of Excellence in Clinical Virology at the Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University, Prof. Dr. Yong Poovorawan, has shared useful information about COVID-19 vaccines and herd immunity, using data from England and France. England has administered 75 vaccine doses per 100 people, while France has administered 34 doses per 100 people. Deaths among COVID-19 cases in France are 10 times higher than those in England

 

According to a message posted on Prof. Dr. Yong's Facebook page today, France has a population of 65 million people while England has 67 million. Their populations are close in size. Both countries have been affected by the COVID-19 pandemic, and have implemented lockdown measures.

 

Dr. Yong Poovorawan doing some good work there in his communication to encourage an uptake in vaccine registrations and avoid vaccine hesitancy here in Thailand.

2 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392358654678994944

 

For those asking which districts in Bangkok had the most recorded #COVID19 cases for yesterday, here is a color-coded map. All of the dark red districts had 100+ cases #Bangkok #Thailand

 

Comparing the map to previous ones you can see how the darker colours have been spreading outwards from the centre. Typical virus spread radiating out from the centre. Hope I'm wrong but the surrounding provinces are the ones to watch next, all dependant on testing of course.

19 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1392352807097815045

 

The 3rd wave had led to 60,044 cases and 392 deaths between April 1 and May 12 with a mortality rate of 0.65%.

There are 29,378 patients who are being treated at hospitals. Of that, 1,226 are in critical condition including 401 on ventilators.

To get the case fatality rate you must subtract those still in hospital. Their outcome is not known.

 

(60,044- 29,378)= 30666.  So CFR = 392/(30666+392) =  1.27%.

 

Right on the money and worse than previous waves, as expected for the UK variant.

 

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually not. Efficacy in epidemiology has a special meaning. Basically it measure how effective a vaccine is in stopping infection in the vaccinated compared to a control group of the unvaccinated. AZ and Coronovac don't have that high an efficacy. But when it comes to stopping severe symptoms requiring hospitalization and death, they are both very potent.

Actually you are right, my apologies.

But you confirm my point, vaccines give, say, 90%plus protection against severe symptoms and deaths. And the fact that you happen to know someone that is hospitalized doesn’t change that fact.

4 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Were these 1983 cases found in the past 24 hour or the number of cases reported today?

I would think 1,893 cases found from midnight to midnight yesterday and reported today.

10 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

And the fact that you happen to know someone that is hospitalized doesn’t change that fact.

One report/case changes all facts for some people . . . sigh! 

41 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1392352448610660356

 

Of the 1,983 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours: - 1,328 were found via tests at medical facilities - 646 via proactive tests - 9 in quarantine facilities

 

 

 

This may not be good. 

 

There are probably no more than 6000 mass testing samples taken per day, which implies a 10% positivity rate. Need to watch this more, maybe they did extra tests yesterday. 

19 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually not. Efficacy in epidemiology has a special meaning. Basically it measure how effective a vaccine is in stopping infection in the vaccinated compared to a control group of the unvaccinated. AZ and Coronovac don't have that high an efficacy. But when it comes to stopping severe symptoms requiring hospitalization and death, they are both very potent.

 

Real world data in the UK and now Korea shows the AZ vaccine to be very effective, when used with a delayed second dose strategy.  The trials were sub-optimal but even then it was 75% efficacy in the US trial. It does have a small and rare problem associated with blood cots however.

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Someone suggested that Thailand's long string in the same range of new cases per day was not possible. 

Aha, yes of course it is possible.  Thanks for pointing this out.

2 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

The trials were sub-optimal

Which trials and in what ways? 

18 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Actually you are right, my apologies.

But you confirm my point, vaccines give, say, 90%plus protection against severe symptoms and deaths. And the fact that you happen to know someone that is hospitalized doesn’t change that fact.

Right. There's way too much emphasis placed on "efficacy" and "effectiveness". They're both used as technical terms in epidemiology but what them mean is rarely explained by the media. 

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Here the fatality rate is rising fast

In what sense is this now happening? 

2 minutes ago, PGSan said:

In what sense is this now happening? 

This post an hour or so ago gives an example:

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1216815-thailand-reports-new-daily-record-of-34-coronavirus-deaths-1983-covid-19-cases/?do=findComment&comment=16466546

 

I'm not surprised. There are still people flouting the rules.

 

This morning I saw some foreigners without their masks drinking and chit-chat on benches in a crowded shopping area.

 

This is Chiang Mai where drinking inside or just outside shops are not allowed.

Edited May 12, 20215 yr by EricTh

5 minutes ago, PGSan said:

Which trials and in what ways? 

 

The AZ trials were sub-optimal in the sense that the dosing strategy was not ideal for this vaccine: the trials (UK and USA) were conducted with a 4 week gap between dosing, whereas the best strategy appears to be a a 13 week delay. The efficacy has risen quite dramatically, and is backed by real world data- 75% first dose rising to 85% after the second dose.  It is not unusual for some vaccines to build up immunity over a long period of time. It would appear that the AZ vaccine is also durable. It is essentially the same as the J and J vaccine which is marketed as a one shot dose (although it probably isn't).

Edited May 12, 20215 yr by mommysboy

A government spokeswoman Wednesday said the government is considering further changes to its national vaccinations policy that could give priority to workers in service industries and those who have frequent public contact, such as restaurant workers, teachers, and transit and taxi drivers.

 

The spokeswoman said the government is considering those kinds of changes, in addition to the already existing vaccination priorities being given to high risk areas of Bangkok such as Khlong Toei and Dindaeng, in an effort to tamp down both numbers of COVID cases and hospitalized patients requiring critical care.

 

 

Adding more people to the priority list. 

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Positivity rate

What is this, please.

Just now, PGSan said:

What is this, please.

The ratio of positive tests to total tests. 

 

Ideally, only random samples are used to determine positivity, but, if nothing else is available, all tests can be used. 

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

The infection fatality rate is increasing

What is this and how do we know that it is increasing?

Vaccinations update for the day:

 

Thailand has yet to fully vaccinate even 1 percent of its total population, according to calculations by the Khaosod English online publication. The "vaccinated" share represents those who have received their first shot only thus far.

 

 

Total number of doses given thus far, along with first and second shot subtotals.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thaimoph/posts/306936987582878

 

Then the number of new doses given in the past day broken down into first shot and second shot subtotals. Only 37,111 doses total for the past day: