2 minutes ago, PGSan said:

What is this and how do we know that it is increasing?

I gave you a link to that in my previous post

As far as I'm aware there is no evidence that the the UK strain increases the fatality rate, at least not in the scientific studies where this strain has been prevalent.

 

https://www.livescience.com/uk-coronavirus-variant-severity.html

35 minutes ago, anchadian said:

I would think 1,893 cases found from midnight to midnight yesterday and reported today.

The reason I ask is because what I think might be happening is say you get tested on Monday the result comes back on Tuesday then you do a confirmation test say Tuesday/Wednesday and the result of that test  Wednesday/Thursday depending upon what time the test result is known it could end up in the results reported on Thursday/Friday?I have never seen the numbers referred to anything but the reported number of cases with no mention of when the tests actually took place.This is where the lack of transparency seems to come into effect. 

Edited May 12, 20215 yr by FarFlungFalang

11 minutes ago, PGSan said:

What is this, please.

You seem very confused today.

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

That is a question I also posed.  Wonder when a study of such will be made public, possibly still being peer reviewed and verified before publication.  An issue that can be posed would also be those infected after vaccination and which vaccine was given.  Of course there are so many variables that can affect this as well.

COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC as of April 26

As of April 26, 2021, more than 95 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. During the same time, CDC received reports of vaccine breakthrough infections from 46 U.S. states and territories.

Total number of vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC

Total number of vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC	9,245
Females	5,827 (63%)
People aged ≥60 years	4,245 (45%)
Asymptomatic infections	2,525 (27%)
Hospitalizations*	835 (9%)
Deaths†	132 (1%)

*241 (29%) of the 835 hospitalizations were reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19.
†20 (15%) of the 132 fatal cases were reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19.

 

COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

 

 

10 minutes ago, PGSan said:

What is this and how do we know that it is increasing?

IFR is the ratio of fatalities to total infections. 

 

If there are 100,000 infections, and 1000 deaths, IFR is 1%.

How can we show that Thailand is massaging its daily covid numbers? It's difficult but compared to its neighbour down south, the figures just do not make any sense at all. 

Malaysia with half the population of Thailand is reporting similar daily death rates and nearly double the case rates. How is this likely? What is Thailand doing to be so good at getting such steady daily case numbers?

 

Well Malaysia does 30-40x the amount of tests Thailand does, so is Malaysia just massively richer and more successful than Thailand, that it can do this? Or does Thailand simply choose not to test, not because as some suggest they cannot afford it, but because it is the only way it can continue to pull the wool over the eyes of the general public?

 

Malaysia also took the approach to only test clusters early on, it didn't work, and 3 of the worlds Variants of concern, are out in the wild in Malaysia. 

 

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The World Health Organisation (WHO) has identified four VOCs — namely the B.1.351 South African variant, the B.1.1.7 variant from the United Kingdom, the B.1.1.28 variant reported in Brazil and the B.1.617.1 double-mutation variant from India.

According to Dr Noor Hisham, only the Brazil VOC has yet to be detected in the country.

He also raised concerns that 80 per cent of new Covid-19 infections were now sporadic and no longer contained in clusters, necessitating the need for MCO 3.0.

 

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3 hours ago, anchadian said:

Read more:

https://www.nationthailand.com/business/40000789

 

About 70 to 80 per cent of small to medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) are suffering from a lack of liquidity since the third Covid-19 wave hit Thailand in late March and 100,000 could close for good, warned Saengchai Theerakulwanich, president of the Federation of Thai SMEs, calling for urgent government help

and the thai baht as stable as ever....

https://twitter.com/ThaiPBSWorld/status/1392371522468155394

 

13:40 Public Health ministry gives the green light to all provinces to organize walk-in inoculation facilities, while use of the Mor Prom application is still required for medical follow-up.

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

For a "rough" comparison on case fatality, the UK is now reporting zero deaths despite having a higher daily positive case count than Thailand

Statistical numbers are never linear. They will go up or down over time. We can only  conclude that this virus is still prevailing and mutates  well in our society,  and unfortunately  people will be infected. 

 

Countries who have inoculated more than 50% of their population with the vaccine  have seen a rise of positive Covid19 test results. It  still not a good feeling.

but I am sure progress will be made to control this virus.

 

the big question is how long will it takes to reach that level.

Ministry of Public Health graphic today shows the country's recent rising trends during May for hospitalized COVID patients in critical condition (top line), the portion of those patients on ventilators (second line), and daily COVID deaths (bottom line, through only May 11).

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/323507455934252/

 

2 minutes ago, MasterBaker said:

and the thai baht as stable as ever....

Amazing Thailand. 

1 minute ago, the green light said:

Statistical numbers are never linear. They will go up or down over time. We can only  conclude that this virus is still prevailing and mutates  well in our society,  and unfortunately  people will be infected. 

 

Yes but thats not the case in the example I made, the UK's death rate has trended down gradually to zero. Result of vaccines and the previous lockdowns

2 minutes ago, the green light said:

Countries who have inoculated more than 50% of their population with the vaccine  have seen a rise of positive Covid19 test results. It  still not a good feeling.

Not so in the UK. Testing more than 1 million daily and new cases still falling.

And the latest trend lines for daily COVID cases, including the blue portion that are self referred and the yellow portion found through outreach testing. Self referred cases have declined lately, but that's being offset by increased numbers of cases being found through outreach testing.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/323507195934278/

 

 

AI calls for urgent measures to prevent spread of Covid-19 in prisons

 

Amnesty International Thailand issued an open letter yesterday (11 May) to the Ministry of Justice and the President of the Supreme Court of Justice calling for urgent measures minimizing the effect of the Covid-19 pandemic in prisons across the country, as well as for unnecessary custody at all levels to be kept at a minimum.

 

Read more:

https://prachatai.com/english/node/9240

4 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

How can we show that Thailand is massaging its daily covid numbers? It's difficult but compared to its neighbour down south, the figures just do not make any sense at all. 

Malaysia with half the population of Thailand is reporting similar daily death rates and nearly double the case rates. How is this likely? What is Thailand doing to be so good at getting such steady daily case numbers?

 

Well Malaysia does 30-40x the amount of tests Thailand does, so is Malaysia just massively richer and more successful than Thailand, that it can do this? Or does Thailand simply choose not to test, not because as some suggest they cannot afford it, but because it is the only way it can continue to pull the wool over the eyes of the general public?

 

Malaysia also took the approach to only test clusters early on, it didn't work, and all of the worlds Variants of concern, are out in the wild in Malaysia. 

 

 

Thailand is so poor it can't afford to waste money on testing.It's toooooo expensive.So they reach their capacity to test fairly quickly usually around the 2000 positive cases per day mark or what ever other result they want to achieve.I look forward to the excess deaths for the current period to see how things really went.

8 minutes ago, MasterBaker said:

and the thai baht as stable as ever....

Not compared to $AU, it's looking much better for us.

3 minutes ago, polpott said:

Not so in the UK. Testing more than 1 million daily and new cases still falling.

Great work there, still mass testing as they should giving a much better picture of the true situation. I saw they even had the Brit Awards yesterday. No masks needed for audience or performers, everyone just had to have a negative test. 

 

Read more:

https://www.thaienquirer.com/27413/anutin-defends-14-per-cent-tax-on-private-hospitals-looking-to-import-vaccine/

 

Anutin defends 14 per cent tax on vaccines imported by private hospitals

Thailand’s Ministry of Public Health is defending a 14 per cent tax imposed on private hospitals looking to bring in their own coronavirus vaccines.

 

“These are the normal fees for importing vaccines,” public health minister Anutin Charnvirakul said.

 

“It includes delivery and quality check and other taxes which have to be paid and there is no profit being made out of it,” he said.

2 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Not compared to $AU, it's looking much better for us.

The THB GBP levels have reached levels that we haven't seen for a few years. 44+ today.

The past week's trend for daily new COVID cases in Bangkok is shown on the second line below covering the period May 6-12, including the impact of increased outreach testing in the Bangkok region in recent days.

 

The first line is showing domestic cases nationwide for the same period, excluding few numbers of imported cases found from international traveler arrivals in quarantine.

 

The totals in the far right column for Bangkok and Thailand are COVID cases cumulatively from April 1 to current.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/323507265934271/

 

And the MoPH's daily charts on how Thailand is faring versus world countries and its regional peer countries ranked by total cumulative numbers of COVID cases. Thailand continues to rank 99th based on that measurement.

 

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/323507062600958/

 

5 hours ago, Pottinger said:

Something not quite right about these virtually flatlining figures, day after day.

I had the same thought, daily numbers are showing similar patterns, all around the 2,000 mark just over or just under, linked to possible limit in testing or a manipulation to not release the true numbers.

5 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Overall, Thailand continues to fare better than many other nations in the COVID pandemic, with a relatively low per capita death rate and low rates of reported infections, though the latter may be aided by limited rates of testing.

feel free to explain the 10,000 odd extra deaths not recorded as covid over the last 4 months - if they WERE covid, this deaths per capita goes out the window somewhat. And we haven't even added in extra deaths in April yet !

 

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And the MoPH's daily charts on how Thailand is faring versus world countries and its regional peer countries ranked by total cumulative numbers of COVID cases. Thailand continues to rank 99th based on that measurement.

 

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/323507062600958/

 

Soon be catching up with mainland China for number of total cases.

5 hours ago, Pottinger said:

Something not quite right about these virtually flatlining figures, day after day.

 

They're not flat-lining.

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

 

They're not flat-lining.

The daily range is 1500 - 2500 new cases. Looks flat to me. 

5 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

To combat the pandemic, Thailand has drastically curtailed its economic life blood of international tourism, shuttered all schools and bars, nightclubs and other entertainment venues nationwide, closed many types of public gathering spots in Bangkok and adjoining provinces, and imposed a nationwide face mask wearing policy.

All the while waiting for Prayuts chosen plan of waiting for ONE manufacturing company to start production !!!!

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

They're not flat-lining.

I think he meant "not rising".