Pattaya police continue to crack down on “social” gatherings, mask-wearing, and public drinking

[ExpatDraco]

5 hours ago, RobMuir said:

I think you might find that it is the result of a pandemic that is killing millions of people and now worse than ever in Thailand with the UK variant.

 

This OP also destroys the often repeated myth from many members that " the police only get money from farangs and not the Thais".

 

There is a serious pandemic occuring currently, please follow the guidelines and stop complaining.

 

 

A serious pandemic? Man, buy the book: statistics for dummies and learn to think for yourself instead of getting brainwashed by the media.

[thaisabai]

another sample: (witnessed by a friend)

A mother, her son and his girlfriend stop their truck on Sukhumvit road to sell some fruit to overcome the covid situation.

My friend and his Thai wife stop to buy some fruit from them.

There comes the City police, 2 men in spotless shiny uniforms, boots well polished and fined the Thai family 500 baht (which they didn't have yet bc they were just starting selling).

 

My friend gave the family 500 Baht and pointed out to the police officers the many holes in the walkway, asking them if they need the money for repair of these?

No answer and they walked away.

Millions of Thais with no money, no work or on reduced salaries; can you blame them to try to get some extra income? But then there come the "important" members of the government trying to look important by denying poor Thais a survival.

My friend bought 3000 Baht worth of fruit from the Thai family after the incident and gave the fruit away in his neighborhood.

 

thaisabai

[paulikens]

5 hours ago, RobMuir said:

I think you might find that it is the result of a pandemic that is killing millions of people and now worse than ever in Thailand with the UK variant.

 

This OP also destroys the often repeated myth from many members that " the police only get money from farangs and not the Thais".

 

There is a serious pandemic occuring currently, please follow the guidelines and stop complaining.

 

@RobMuir yes mum

[chrisbangkok]

6 hours ago, Amdesign said:

Most of these 'fines' are illegal, even from Thia law. In developed countries the people will just refuse to pay 'fines' on site and ask police officers to file the cases to court...

Everyone knows it is pay the bent coppers 5k or go to court and have to pay 20k .. that's how it is here and why the police get away with it , a few 5k a month pays forthe car loans , apartment mortgage and a few hours with the bit on the side. This is also why no-one would piddle on a policeman if he was on fire .. zero respect because none earned .

 

[from the home of CC]

5 hours ago, RobMuir said:

I think you might find that it is the result of a pandemic that is killing millions of people and now worse than ever in Thailand with the UK variant.

 

This OP also destroys the often repeated myth from many members that " the police only get money from farangs and not the Thais".

 

There is a serious pandemic occuring currently, please follow the guidelines and stop complaining.

 

In the UK, it's been estimated 20% or so of the public ignored public health regulations during the height of covid there. One hundred and fifty thousands lives were lost mainly due to others not caring, especially when intoxicated. It's an easy lesson for the rest of world to learn.

[smedly]

37 minutes ago, Guderian said:

 

There was a time when we might have blamed Russian tourists for bringing us into disrepute, but we don't have that option any more, lol.

 

Really though, people do not seem to be acting in their own best interests. The neighbours renting the house opposite me are part-owners of a Pattaya Gogo bar. obviously, they want the restrictions lifted ASAP so they can get back to earning a living, yet almost every day they have friends around for a few beers. The authorities in Chonburi have stated that most cases are now related to small social gatherings of just 2 or 3 people, so my neighbours really are acting against their own interests in hosting these small gatherings. The sooner new cases are down in single figures, the sooner we're likely to see restrictions lifted again, so for goodness sake don;t do anything that might make matters worse.

understand your point and agree

 

But walking along a street drinking a water a beer a soda or eating is not against any rules that I am aware of - the distinction between the above examples is the content of the said drinks or the act itself - I have not read any research that indicates that a beer makes you at more risk from covid than a soda, my point being - if they don't want people walking down a street then introduce a curfew to prevent them from doing so, also introduce a law that forbids drinking or eating "anything" in public - otherwise stop abusing peoples rights, by the letter of the current law/rules they are doing nothing wrong.

 

It seems to be nothing more than an abusive money grab, not something many would be familiar with in Thailand lol 

[StevieAus]

6 hours ago, Amdesign said:

Most of these 'fines' are illegal, even from Thia law. In developed countries the people will just refuse to pay 'fines' on site and ask police officers to file the cases to court...

That’s what you can do here as well, if the record on paying fines for motoring offenses is anything to go by they will be lucky to collect on these.

[smedly]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

To whom? Some seem to have no problem with the restrictions, others deride them. We don't get to cherry pick.

(Just wish they were clear).

publish the restrictions here then we will understand them

 

after doing so go back and read the OP and explain how they were applied

[jacko45k]

15 minutes ago, smedly said:

publish the restrictions here then we will understand them

 

after doing so go back and read the OP and explain how they were applied

I guess they are in here somewhere...

http://www.chonburi.go.th/website/app_form/cate8

 

[hotchilli]

8 hours ago, scammed said:

<deleted> ? i get fined 5000 baht if i buy a beer from 7/11 ?

 

and do i get a 6000 baht fine if i drive a scooter without mask ?

Depends where you are.

[RobMuir]

30 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

In the UK, it's been estimated 20% or so of the public ignored public health regulations during the height of covid there. One hundred and fifty thousands lives were lost mainly due to others not caring, especially when intoxicated. It's an easy lesson for the rest of world to learn.

150,000 just in the UK where the massive concentration of infections allowed the UK strain to develop.

 

Which is now killing hundreds of thousands more and causing over 90% of infections here in Thailand.

 

 

[RobMuir]

1 hour ago, Guderian said:

The neighbours renting the house opposite me are part-owners of a Pattaya Gogo bar. obviously, they want the restrictions lifted ASAP so they can get back to earning a living, yet almost every day they have friends around for a few beers

 

Well, pimps usually only care about themselves, are not known for empathy, so that news isn't surprising.

[Emdog]

6 hours ago, pattjock said:

Maybe if they made the current rules public it would be easier to follow them. I have looked everywhere for first hand information but have not found much and pretty much nothing in English.

 

How can you penalize people if you don't make the exact regulations public?

A key characteristic of totalitarian/authoritarian regimes is having so many laws, unknown to the public at large, that you are breaking some law no matter what you happen to be doing

[Rolander]

6 minutes ago, RobMuir said:

150,000 just in the UK where the massive concentration of infections allowed the UK strain to develop.

 

Which is now killing hundreds of thousands more and causing over 90% of infections here in Thailand.

 

 

The China virus is ineffective against healthy people.

There is no asymptomatic transfer of the virus as well.

The old and unhealthy can take precautions , the rest of us must be free to live our lives.

Unfortunately Rob ,as in your case there's no cure for stupidity.

[smedly]

14 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I guess they are in here somewhere...

http://www.chonburi.go.th/website/app_form/cate8

 

well you didn't extract the relevant parts that relate to the OP - understandable 

 

I don't know what country you are from but I am pretty sure they don't go out on patrol and make up rules that don't exist and try to fine people, I think it is safe to say you (and most other people) would not accept that if they did 

 

some on here will say - TIT, isn't that exactly what we are discussing on TVF day in and day out, just because it is Thailand doesn't make it right

[from the home of CC]

10 minutes ago, RobMuir said:

150,000 just in the UK where the massive concentration of infections allowed the UK strain to develop.

 

Which is now killing hundreds of thousands more and causing over 90% of infections here in Thailand.

 

 

where the disease is left unchecked for a time period (ie India, Brazil, S.A., U.K. ) the consequences have proven devastating. The rest of world always pays for the actions of a few, though some countries had the disadvantages of economic weakness and education..   

[dennnis]

6 hours ago, RobMuir said:

I think you might find that it is the result of a pandemic that is killing millions of people and now worse than ever in Thailand with the UK variant.

 

This OP also destroys the often repeated myth from many members that " the police only get money from farangs and not the Thais".

 

There is a serious pandemic occuring currently, please follow the guidelines and stop complaining.

 

You don't have basement in your home, do you? 

[FarangGeoff]

I can only wholeheartedly agree with another post. 

Since every bar,  "entertainment" venue,  massage parlour etc is currently closed,  the weekly brown envelopes have dried up,  hence,  the police are extorting money,  by apparently any method. 

They are a low to themselves. 

[from the home of CC]

6 minutes ago, Rolander said:

The China virus is ineffective against healthy people.

There is no asymptomatic transfer of the virus as well.

The old and unhealthy can take precautions , the rest of us must be free to live our lives.

Unfortunately Rob ,as in your case there's no cure for stupidity.

unfortunately ignorance is our own worst enemy, and sentiments like the above, streamed over the internet daily only add to the death toll..

[smedly]

14 minutes ago, RobMuir said:

150,000 just in the UK where the massive concentration of infections allowed the UK strain to develop.

 

Which is now killing hundreds of thousands more and causing over 90% of infections here in Thailand.

 

 

viruses mutate - I assume you realise that 

 

The UK and other developed countries are helping identify those mutations across the world and are also figuring out how to combat the mutations in an ever changing pandemic in order to stay on top and defeat this thing. 

[from the home of CC]

1 minute ago, dennnis said:

You don't have basement in your home, do you? 

ever read a book?

[Harveyboy]

8 hours ago, scammed said:

<deleted> ? i get fined 5000 baht if i buy a beer from 7/11 ?

 

and do i get a 6000 baht fine if i drive a scooter without mask ?

not if you but it...its if you drink it..and yes masks to be worn on motor bikes don't want covid getting you speeding along at 90 km an hour now do we..

[jacko45k]

6 minutes ago, smedly said:

some on here will say - TIT, isn't that exactly what we are discussing on TVF day in and day out, just because it is Thailand doesn't make it right

Maybe because it is Thailand I don't always expect it to be right, nor in accordance with my desires or beliefs. 

[from the home of CC]

Just now, smedly said:

viruses mutate - I assume you realise that 

 

The UK and other developed countries are helping identify those mutations across the world and are also figuring out how to combat the mutations in an ever changing pandemic in order to stay on top and defeat this thing. 

yes, the UK led the world in the genetic identification of strains - driven by the impetus of unnecessary rampant disease rates on an island that didn't know enough to close it's own doors..

[Cake Monster]

Just what any potential future Tourists love to hear.

Pattaya has not lost its ability to Scam people during the Covid Outbreak.

 

[AquaThai]

No they arent cracking down.  The whole world can view and watch on Youtube as many ladies sit in front of a camera and ask for drink donations  for their group.  All the while bars beside theirs, across from theirs and on the same soi as theirs,  continues to test positive for COVID. 19.  So clearly the world can see betwenn the lines that its not really that important to stop social gatherings as the media attempts to fluff.  The writer of this post themselves use to be if not still affiliated with the NW group. This reply will possible get deleted or not posted, but the real social gatherings  and spreaders of Covid are seen daily on YouTube  for the world to see, that in Thailand some people can violate and continue to spread covid in front of the camera.

[MrMo]

As far as the "offences" are concerned, they all seem to be in breach of the regulations with perhaps the exception of two people on a balcony.   

 

As to the level of fines imposed, that is another matter.

 

Just don't break the rules to start with and there will be no fine.

[Mywayboy]

8 hours ago, jacko45k said:

That is not what it says, I suspect the beer was opened. Although I do not know what rule that breaks. Is there a ban on alcohol consumption in public?

Some of the infractions and fines are justified by new, current rules, but too many sound like a campaign against drinking  alcohol in all forms. The authorities need to be reined in here. 

 

 

This what happens living in Thailand under a DICTATORSHIP. 

If you don't like it leave as I did 18 months ago.

[jacko45k]

6 minutes ago, Mywayboy said:

This what happens living in Thailand under a DICTATORSHIP. 

If you don't like it leave as I did 18 months ago.

And where did I say that? 

[BernieOnTour]

7 hours ago, RobMuir said:

I think you might find that it is the result of a pandemic that is killing millions of people and now worse than ever in Thailand with the UK variant.

 

Well... serious pandemic, really ?

If there would be a pandemic, I would not expect for 2020 a global death rate of 7.612, lower than the global death rate of 2015.

- If, then I would expect at least a death above 10, like in the 80‘s !

 

Table based on UN data ...