Popular Post edwinchester Posted June 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2021 Local hospital just called my Thai wife and cancelled my vaccination for next Monday saying they'd run out. Last week they called to say it would be Sinovac instead of the initially promised Astrazeneca and then the news today. Farcical. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KC 71 Posted June 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2021 oh well at least you get to live another day 2 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Have your wife call back and ask when you can have a new appointment. When you do, again request AstraZenica because that's what you were originally scheduled for. This is my plan if I get cancelled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Same happened to me then they messaged day before that they had vac and to come AZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excel Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Surprise Surprise 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwinchester Posted June 18, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 hours ago, rabas said: Have your wife call back and ask when you can have a new appointment. When you do, again request AstraZenica because that's what you were originally scheduled for. This is my plan if I get cancelled. Sorry, forgot to mention in my OP that they did say it would be rescheduled for 'sometime' in the future. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Are use Chiang Mai website to register for the vaccine three weeks ago 10 minutes after I registered they gave me a long number to use for the hospital and as of yet they never scheduled emailed me back when or which hospital to go to tee TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Things happen for a reason, go out and buy a lottery ticket with these numbers 180620. If you win, don't forget my 10% comm ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Typically Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerandDog Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 hours ago, TheFishman1 said: Are use Chiang Mai website to register for the vaccine three weeks ago 10 minutes after I registered they gave me a long number to use for the hospital and as of yet they never scheduled emailed me back when or which hospital to go to tee TIT The CM registration site has a link on the home page to check your registration. When you select that, in my case anyway, it gives you a date, time & hospital to attend for your first jab. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvw53 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Same thing happened to my Thai wife's mother who is 91 years old and is now referred to a shopping mall on 7 July......The old lady needs a wheelchair and this shopping mall cannot handle this 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post khunPer Posted June 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2021 23 hours ago, edwinchester said: Local hospital just called my Thai wife and cancelled my vaccination for next Monday saying they'd run out. Last week they called to say it would be Sinovac instead of the initially promised Astrazeneca and then the news today. Farcical. Not really farcical. Same has happened in my Scandinavian home country. Europe also had huge vaccine delivery problems, and still have, so their planning need to change all the time. You'll most likely get a new time for vaccination...???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 I just hope you were not surprised, except that they called you to cancel .... latter is a first, as far as I know! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Smart to cancel. Just read about the 350 medical personnel who all contacted COVID-19 in Indonesia weeks after there second Sinovac shot. Many in the hospital ER. At least Astra Zeneca is 60% effective on the newer Delta (Indian) variant. Hopefully the government will stop stalling and get some Pheizer and Moderna sooner than later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gulfsailor Posted June 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, MrJ2U said: Smart to cancel. Just read about the 350 medical personnel who all contacted COVID-19 in Indonesia weeks after there second Sinovac shot. Many in the hospital ER. At least Astra Zeneca is 60% effective on the newer Delta (Indian) variant. Hopefully the government will stop stalling and get some Pheizer and Moderna sooner than later. You are exaggerating the situation in Indonesia. What I read a dozen (that’s 12) fully vaccinated healthcare workers are in hospital. That’s from a total of over a million vaccinated health care workers. As this is a very high risk group it’s expected to see some breakthrough cases. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Letseng Posted June 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gulfsailor said: You are exaggerating the situation in Indonesia. What I read a dozen (that’s 12) fully vaccinated healthcare workers are in hospital. That’s from a total of over a million vaccinated health care workers. As this is a very high risk group it’s expected to see some breakthrough cases. Happens in other countries too. Even in Singapore despite Pfizer/Moderna vaccination. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 13 hours ago, Skeptic7 said: Typically Thailand Happened to me to in the early days in my western country. Does that mean 1st world countries "typically" can't do anything right also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Letseng said: Happens in other countries too. Even in Singapore despite Pfizer/Moderna vaccination. The whiners gotta whine. I suspect most of them hate their lives and will not be happy no matter where they live. Edited June 19, 2021 by shdmn 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 The central government has taken on responsibility for supply of the vaccines. The local authorities who are trying to arrange the jags are being left to take the blame when the promised doses fail to be delivered. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, Maybole said: The central government has taken on responsibility for supply of the vaccines. The local authorities who are trying to arrange the jags are being left to take the blame when the promised doses fail to be delivered. why is Thailand's AZ production delayed? does anyone know? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gulfsailor said: You are exaggerating the situation in Indonesia. What I read a dozen (that’s 12) fully vaccinated healthcare workers are in hospital. That’s from a total of over a million vaccinated health care workers. As this is a very high risk group it’s expected to see some breakthrough cases. Can you give us the link to the article please in order for us to confirm or refute. Edited June 19, 2021 by EricTh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 9 hours ago, shdmn said: Happened to me to in the early days in my western country. Does that mean 1st world countries "typically" can't do anything right also? Not at all. Means that it's an occasional for some things in most countries and TYPICAL here for EVERYTHING. Been here 25 years and that fact was abundantly clear 24 years 11 months ago. Hope that helps sort it out for ya. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 17 hours ago, Sydebolle said: I just hope you were not surprised, except that they called you to cancel .... latter is a first, as far as I know! TBH I was expecting it as the 'bush telegraph' in our area is very active and had already indicated the shortage of vaccines. The call actually came from a guy at our local health center who is coordinating between the nearby hospital and all those due a vaccine here in the village. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 11 hours ago, tgw said: why is Thailand's AZ production delayed? does anyone know? Yes but we can't talk about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havenstreet1940 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Gulfsailor said: You are exaggerating the situation in Indonesia. What I read a dozen (that’s 12) fully vaccinated healthcare workers are in hospital. That’s from a total of over a million vaccinated health care workers. As this is a very high risk group it’s expected to see some breakthrough cases. More than 350 doctors and medical professionals have contracted Covid-19 in Indonesia despite the majority of healthcare workers having been immunized with Sinovac, officials said Thursday, just over a month after officials praised the shot for wiping out the disease among health workers. Dozens of these were hospitalized, officials added, leading experts to question the effectiveness of the Chinese shot, particularly against the infectious Delta variant fueling the country’s outbreak. The above is an article published in Forbes magazine. So no exaggeration and whereas you emphasise it was only a dozen (12), the article quotes an Indonesian Officials as saying 'Dozens" 'Should have gone to Specsavers.' Edited June 20, 2021 by Havenstreet1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, tgw said: why is Thailand's AZ production delayed? does anyone know? The problem with the Adenovirus vaccines (Astrazeneca, Johnson & Johnson) is that they need to grow a large amount of human cell culture. I think it takes about 8 weeks to complete a batch and is considered a very difficult black art. The optimal recipe varies from manufacturing site to manufacturing site and on the amount being made. Sounds like most manufacturing sites get much lower yields than expected at first. They have to wait 8 weeks to complete a batch to try tweak things and make another batch. So it's a very long time consuming process trying to increase the yield. I don't think mRNA vaccines have any of those problems. I think it only takes them a couple days to make a batch so they can tweak things every couple days and ramp up more quickly. Edited June 20, 2021 by shdmn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, shdmn said: The problem with the Adenovirus vaccines (Astrazeneca, Johnson & Johnson) is that they are required to grow a large amount of human cell culture. I think it takes about 8 weeks to complete and is considered a very difficult black art. It varies from manufacturing site to manufacturing site and on the amount being made. Sounds like most manufacturing sites get lower yields than expected but they have to wait 8 week to try tweak things and make another batch. So it's a very long time consuming process trying to increase the yield. okay so we got two theories now. - shortage of materials - shortage of cell cultures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, tgw said: okay so we got two theories now. - shortage of materials - shortage of cell cultures No it is not a 'theory'. The quotes I have read mentioned lower than expected production output. That implies cell culture yield which was expected because it's the same problem every other new AZ manufacturer experienced, not shortage of materials. Edited June 20, 2021 by shdmn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Skeptic7 said: Not at all. Means that it's an occasional for some things in most countries and TYPICAL here for EVERYTHING. Been here 25 years and that fact was abundantly clear 24 years 11 months ago. Hope that helps sort it out for ya. And you have been here 25 years? Are you some kind of masochist? I don't get people like you. Thailand sucks but you still live here? Cheap booze and girls, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, DavisH said: And you have been here 25 years? Are you some kind of masochist? I don't get people like you. Thailand sucks but you still live here? Cheap booze and girls, I guess. you are mistaken, the booze is far from cheap here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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