madlove Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 i observe the cases as reported around the world. Have you noticed how some nations report low numbers while others have mass infections? Likely the virus attacks all areas at similar rates so the numbers in lots of nations are not real nor are they accurate. Who believe China? Those numbers from that government are rediculous. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Petey11 Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 7 hours ago, connda said: I have family in the US who live in urban areas who are literally housebound in fear. Although most of my family who live in rural areas of the US and here in Thailand seem to be rather unaffected by it all. My wife and I are hardly affected by any of the craziness other than being force to wear masks in large stores. So I don't get it. I don't understand the almost irrational fear that I see all around. Maybe not enough people have had the chance to live through at least one fire-fight in their lives. Or to be so close to explosions that you feel the ground lift. That's scary. It puts life in perspective. But This? <sigh; head-shake> There's those who live in fear of it, those who take sensible precautions and those who don't give a flying ???. If everyone was the middle things would be a lot better I think. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 15 hours ago, wensiensheng said: Because if Pfizer is indeed much more effective, then they might decide to get some. Or, people might decide to fly to a different country to get it. It’s hard for me to see that information on the effectiveness of Covid vaccines isn’t useful given current circumstances. It's hard for me to see what getting Pfizer some day down the road has to do with how to treat the situation in Thailand AS OF TODAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: It's hard for me to see what getting Pfizer some day down the road has to do with how to treat the situation in Thailand AS OF TODAY. Effective planning, unless they order some as of today, then you could be repeating that in 6 months time. The doctors and health experts that are pressuring the government to order now are doing exactly that, thankfully they are doing the right thing for people in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 7 hours ago, placeholder said: So much trolling in so little space. And essentially the same post over and over again. How many threads have you littered it with? Being prudent is not the same thing as being fearful. Understanding that covid can quickly overwhelm a medical system and looking ways to stop it happening doesn't mean that someone is fearful. Understanding that long-term covid is a real thing doesn't mean someone is panicking. You actually have no idea how the people who post here feel. Stop pretending that you do. Accusing those with alternative points of view of "trolling" doesn't really help the discussion. Maybe better to leave it to Admin to deal with real trolls. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Effective planning, unless they order some as of today, then you could be repeating that in 6 months time. The doctors and health experts that are pressuring the government to order now are doing exactly that, thankfully they are doing the right thing for people in Thailand. Plan all you like. How does that help someone standing in line to get a vax -- ANY vax -- today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: It's hard for me to see what getting Pfizer some day down the road has to do with how to treat the situation in Thailand AS OF TODAY. That’s because you aren’t thinking ahead. Decisions taken today effect the overall situation in future months. Hence we are still paying the price for poor decisions taken previously. But equally, we could benefit from good decisions taken today, in future months. Knowing that Pfizer has good efficacy against delta forms part of an overall picture on which current decisions should be based, in order to alter future outcomes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) No I'll let you think ahead. All I am interested in is TODAY. You got some Pfizer today? Great. Edited July 18, 2021 by jerrymahoney 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, jerrymahoney said: Plan all you like. How does that help someone standing in line to get a vax -- ANY vax -- today? This is why, those standing in a line today will at least know they have an mrna to come, pretty simple.: Over 200,000 people, including prominent Thai doctors and medical practitioners, have signed a petition demanding the government purchase more effective vaccines and administer them for free. A petition from the Mor Mai Thon (Doctors Won’t Tolerate It) group has been signed by 215,409 medical practitioners, calling on the government to purchase mRNA vaccines. https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/over-200000-doctors-sign-petition-calling-for-mrna-vaccines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, jerrymahoney said: Plan all you like. How does that help someone standing in line to get a vax -- ANY vax -- today? The current situation requires decisions to address issues such as you describe. Just as important however, are plans to improve the situation in future months. The idea is not to just let events run their course, but to shape the future through informed decisions that form part of an overall strategic plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swimfan Posted July 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2021 7 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said: I left Thailand in April last year and went to Sweden, a move that I am very happy for after reading how things are now in Thailand. It was hard during the very cold winter months, some days was minus fifteen Celsius, but for me personal freedom is very important. Sweden has not locked down one single day so far and no crazy facemask rules when outside like most other countries in Europe. I have received two shots of Pfizer for free and there are only twenty Corvid patients in ICU care in the whole of the country now. 14.600 Swedes died from Corvid, less than Belgium with a similar population, and they locked down their country. The Swedish economy is doing great and life is like normal here. When this pandemic is over the Thai military "government" will face a <deleted>storm I believe, destroying a big percentage of the economy by creating a fear situation amongst the population. I really hope that they will be held responsible for the mess that they have created. You failed to mention that Sweden has a very high death rate per capita. At 18 months in Thailand would have to have 100k dead to be on par with Sweden. So please tell me again how wonderful things have been in Sweden. By their own admission they have failed miserably. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said: No I'll let you think ahead. All I am interested in is TODAY. You got some Pfizer today? Great. It’s up to you what interests you. I prefer to think ahead so as to firstly try to avoid making a bad situation worse, and to try to ensure that the future is improved. I understand that some people prefer not to do that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 16 hours ago, ed strong said: You have heard of placebos, well Thailands narrative seems to be spouting the complete opposite. My uncle once said don't read health books you might die of a misprint! I appreciate Thailand expats are generally retired so best to get vaccinated however it seems to be marginal protection and for a limited time but better than nothing. When you move to Thailand there's certain things you have to accept, and surely the whole roll out thing was always going to be chaotic, can't really be surprised. Still there's twice as many deaths on the road as there is is from covid, yet no one's debates driving as much as you do about worrying about people socialising etc. As we are now finding it's just a case of living with it as most other countries are now doing. If it wasn't for the media here in the UK, I'd have no idea we are in a pandemic is this still true? “Still there's twice as many deaths on the road as there is is from covid, yet no one's debates driving as much as you do about worrying about people socialising etc.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 minute ago, wensiensheng said: It’s up to you what interests you. I prefer to think ahead so as to firstly try to avoid making a bad situation worse, and to try to ensure that the future is improved. I understand that some people prefer not to do that. Thank you. There are already enough planistas who know what should be done. I am interested in what happens today. And that includes not telling someone who is standing inline to hopefully receive a vax -- any vax -- that the vax you are about to receive is useless junk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 minute ago, jerrymahoney said: Thank you. There are already enough planistas who know what should be done. I am interested in what happens today. And that includes not telling someone who is standing inline to hopefully receive a vax -- any vax -- that the vax you are about to receive is useless junk I know you are interested in what happens today. You already said it. There’s no need to keep repeating it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: I know you are interested in what happens today. You already said it. There’s no need to keep repeating it. No need for you to keep repeating PLANS 'Я' US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 15 hours ago, dinsdale said: BREAKING NEWS (maybe): I've just been told a 24hr hour a day lockdown mon- fri next wk in red zones. leave home and get arrested. Not sure but if this is the case its madness. Shopping centres will be chockers. Anyone seen anything about this. No, not until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 11,397 new cases and a further 101 deaths 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, anchadian said: 11,397 new cases and a further 101 deaths OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Today 11397 Die 101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Curfew imposed in Chonburi, Ayutthaya & Chacherngsao provinces from 9pm - 4am starting Tues July 20. No words on Metro Bangkok yet but more stringent measures could be imposed effective tomorrow. Stay tune & get what u need 2day. https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1416563707715350529 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, Swimfan said: You failed to mention that Sweden has a very high death rate per capita. At 18 months in Thailand would have to have 100k dead to be on par with Sweden. So please tell me again how wonderful things have been in Sweden. By their own admission they have failed miserably. Can't you read? I wrote that 14.600 Swedes died from Corvid, less than Belgium with a similar population, a country that locked down. Swedes are buying new cars, boats and house prices are increasing, Swedish citizens has never been as wealthy as they are now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Curfew imposed in Chonburi, Ayutthaya & Chacherngsao provinces from 9pm - 4am starting Tues July 20. No words on Metro Bangkok yet but more stringent measures could be imposed effective tomorrow. Stay tune & get what u need 2day. https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1416563707715350529 Are you recommending panic-buying and hoarding? ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Are you recommending panic-buying and hoarding? ???? Yes get that toilet paper stocked up and buy some books to read 555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Are you recommending panic-buying and hoarding? ???? Can't have enough panic so best go out and buy some and hoard it whilst there's still some left.I think Big C has a 10% discount if you get in before the lockdown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzachang Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 23 hours ago, anchadian said: Although there are record highs for deaths and new cases today in #Thailand, it shouldn’t be overlooked that there is also another new high - 6,327 people were discharged from care and were able to go home. We must be thankful for any good news we can get. Stay safe and #StayHome At this rate, most of Thailand will be immune by recovery soon. Unless you have been vaccinated or have recovered, does "staying home" simply delay the inevitable? It is important to look at recoveries and not only "new" cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Yes get that toilet paper stocked up and buy some books to read 555 Actually having a bum gun means not having to worry about toilet paper! I don't finish work today until 5pm, but I guess I had better take your advice! And no books required - I have Netflix. Edited July 18, 2021 by brewsterbudgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimfan Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said: Can't you read? I wrote that 14.600 Swedes died from Corvid, less than Belgium with a similar population, a country that locked down. Swedes are buying new cars, boats and house prices are increasing, Swedish citizens has never been as wealthy as they are now. Yes I can read. What about those that died because the government failed to manage the situation properly. Maybe they and their families still wish they were still here to share in the riches and buy themselves a new car or boat. But they can’t as they are no longer here due to poor management. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 Thailand reports another record high new COVID-19 caseshttps://aseannow.com/topic/1224474-thailand-reports-another-record-high-new-covid-19-cases/ //CLOSED// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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