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Dr Thaweesap Sirapraphasiri of the Department of Disease Control said yesterday that data from 28th February to July 22nd indicated that 15,388,939 doses of vaccine against Covid-19 had been administered, reported Sanook.

 

This has been Sinovac, Astra Zeneca and Sinopharm. 

 

Those mostly vaccinated so far are people aged 60 and over and people with 7 underlying health conditions.

 

The next phase will be those aged 18-59 without health problems.

 

He explained about the measurement for the efficacy of vaccines saying it was not a matter of preventing Covid but how efficient a vaccine was in preventing serious consequences resulting from infection.

 

In this regard he stood by data from three provinces - Phuket, Chiang Rai and Samut Sakhon - that Sinovac was 90% efficacious in this regard against the Alpha variant.

 

Studies to determine its efficacy againt the more virulent Delta variant are ongoing, he said. 

 

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2 minutes ago, webfact said:

regard he stood by data from three provinces - Phuket, Chiang Rai and Samut Sakhon - that Sinovac was 90% efficacious in this regard against the Alpha variant.

Yet we are seeing the Delta variant now. Tell us how it's efficacy is doing with that variant and stop muddying the waters of the current spread

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yet we are seeing the Delta variant now. Tell us how it's efficacy is doing with that variant and stop muddying the waters of the current spread

It literally says in the article that studies against Delta are ongoing.

 

 

I might begrudgingly mark this effort as a "D".

 

It did not meet even the bare minimum.

 

Go back and do better.

 

 

16 minutes ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

It literally says in the article that studies against Delta are ongoing.

 

 

Of course but until the time when that is published,  discussing what was is only trying to muddy the waters, would you not agree.  It's like buying your kid a pony for her 16th birthday when she wanted it when she was 8.

Stop pretending that Sinovac is anything more than a first generation vaccine that has no place in the current stage of the pandemic we face.

 

Without it, the vaccination numbers plummet and the sandbox projects become unviable - the majority of Phuket was vaccinated with it. So it will never happen and let's just keep on stalling eh?

 

 

 

 

Another nutter, Studies to determine its efficacy againt the more virulent Delta variant are ongoing, he said. 

 

He obviously doesn't read the news.

 

"Calls to give medical workers a booster shot are growing after a 30-year-old nurse died after contracting Covid-19 despite having received two doses of the Sinovac vaccine".

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2147027/calls-for-booster-jabs-grow-after-nurses-death

 

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Great news, I never knew it was so high, I am in the 18-59 group and look forward to getting the vaccine next month. 

Diplomacy gone amiss: Story of Chinese COVID-19 Vaccines

The global angst against China over allegedly ‘creating’ the coronavirus and then concealing crucial information is still fresh. Widely called out as a ‘charm offensive’ by the Western media, China’s vaccine diplomacy is seen as a means of damage control for its worldwide falling reputation and worsening cross-country ties. Although China’s initial missteps do point to an intentional role in the global pandemic, it is now trying hard to emerge as a dependable ally to its neighbours and countries everywhere who are in dire straits.

 

https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/diplomacy-gone-amiss-story-of-chinese-covid-19-vaccines/

11 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Another nutter, Studies to determine its efficacy againt the more virulent Delta variant are ongoing, he said. 

 

He obviously doesn't read the news.

 

"Calls to give medical workers a booster shot are growing after a 30-year-old nurse died after contracting Covid-19 despite having received two doses of the Sinovac vaccine".

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2147027/calls-for-booster-jabs-grow-after-nurses-death

 

You obviously have no use for statistics.

Is this a joke?  Last time I heard, the Delta Variant was the issue, not the fuking Alpha!

"Those mostly vaccinated so far are people aged 60 and over and people with 7 underlying health conditions."

 

Who is he trying to kid? Sounds a right whooper!  

 

What about the foreigners over 60s and people with underlying health conditions living outside of Bangkok? - "Sorry, no have for farang"  ☹️☹️

 

35 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Another nutter, Studies to determine its efficacy againt the more virulent Delta variant are ongoing, he said. 

 

He obviously doesn't read the news.

 

"Calls to give medical workers a booster shot are growing after a 30-year-old nurse died after contracting Covid-19 despite having received two doses of the Sinovac vaccine".

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2147027/calls-for-booster-jabs-grow-after-nurses-death

 

1 nurse, ONE

 

not 10, or 100, or 100,000

 

one

 

why are people here so weird about Sinovac?

15 minutes ago, Taboo2 said:

Is this a joke?  Last time I heard, the Delta Variant was the issue, not the fuking Alpha!

These studies don’t happen overnight for crying out loud. 
 

what the hell is wrong with people here?

26 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You obviously have no use for statistics.

Why are they desperate for Sinovac to fail?
 

it’s so strange  

1 minute ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

Why are they desperate for Sinovac to fail?
 

it’s so strange  

Mostly it has to do with the fact that it's made in China, I think and these members let their feelings about the Chinese govt cloud their judgement.

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

I might begrudgingly mark this effort as a "D".

 

It did not meet even the bare minimum.

I have a strong feeling that you may be familiar with what the bare minimum is.

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Mostly it has to do with the fact that it's made in China, I think and these members let their feelings about the Chinese govt cloud their judgement.

Or maybe that it costs 4x the price of AZ and is the least effective vaccine?

22 minutes ago, placeholder said:

25 minutes ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

Why are they desperate for Sinovac to fail?
 

it’s so strange  

Mostly it has to do with the fact that it's made in China, I think and these members let their feelings about the Chinese govt cloud their judgement.

It's called "irrationality" and the rest of us have to put up with it here.

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Very good effective for Aplha , but now we have read several times that Delta is mostly 70% of the infections... So how effective is that?? and how long ?? 

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1 minute ago, clivebaxter said:

Or maybe that it costs 4x the price of AZ and is the least effective vaccine?

I think it's clear why the Thai govt underordered doses of AZ and relied so heavily on Sinovac. All it takes is a look at  Sinovac's dubious business history, 

Sinovac has been the least effective vaccine for a while. But does "least" mean it's not useful?

Just now, placeholder said:

I think it's clear why the Thai govt underordered doses of AZ and relied so heavily on Sinovac. All it takes is a look at  Sinovac's dubious business history, 

Sinovac has been the least effective vaccine for a while. But does "least" mean it's not useful?

But why use the worst one unless there is money to be made? No western country used the Chinese effort- because there were far better alternatives, sadly not for most Thais let down by this government.

Erh, excuse me, but the lack of vaccination is a matter of life-and-death; Sinovac on the other hand successfully staving off severe illnesses - its lack of efficacy against the Delta, or any other variant past, present and future notwithstanding - is a matter of staying alive: death is pretty much out of the picture once one gets jabbed. If saving lives is "rubbish" then it'll be good for all concerned that you re-evaluate your standards, in the meantime please don't muddy the waters. 

 

One more thing, the Delta or whatever the greek alphabet du jour, variant is not going to mutate gold old Sarscov2 virus into a winged or legged creature. It still depends on humans, among other "things," to spread.

 

One last thing, "booster" shot, "top-up" shot, whatever, in fact is just one vaccine complementing another. Also there's is no "breakthrough" infection, no vaccines so far can give 100% protection against Covid, in other words, no wall or ceiling existing yet to "break through." So please stop the mumbo-jumbo.
 

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

I might begrudgingly mark this effort as a "D".

 

It did not meet even the bare minimum.

 

Go back and do better.

 

 

I'm getting flashbacks to my report card.

Could do better!

1 hour ago, webfact said:

In this regard he stood by data from three provinces - Phuket, Chiang Rai and Samut Sakhon - that Sinovac was 90% efficacious in this regard against the Alpha variant.

Maybe they could spin that like Sinovac defeated Alpha. When in fact it was Delta that did that.

 

Either way, as of now, Alpha is completely irrelevant. And so is his "reassuring" statement. 

Covid-19: Chinese vaccines may need changes to improve efficacy, admits official

Published in April ...  

The phase III trials of China’s existing vaccines remain unpublished. For CoronaVac, the vaccine made by private company Sinovac, phase 1 and II data has been published2—showing a limited antibody response—while state owned Sinopharm has only said that its two vaccines have efficacy of 79.4% and 72.5%, based on interim results.

The phase III Sinovac trials conducted in Brazil, Chile, Indonesia, Turkey, and the Philippines have so far given sharply disparate unpublished results, with Brazilian researchers finding 50.7% efficacy, or 62.3% with longer dosing intervals,3 while Turkish researchers reported 83.5% efficacy.

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n969

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, webfact said:

...Sinovac was 90% efficacious in this regard against the Alpha variant.

Doesn't really matter much now, when the Delta-variant is the one we fears.

2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Another nutter, Studies to determine its efficacy againt the more virulent Delta variant are ongoing, he said. 

 

He obviously doesn't read the news.

 

"Calls to give medical workers a booster shot are growing after a 30-year-old nurse died after contracting Covid-19 despite having received two doses of the Sinovac vaccine".

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2147027/calls-for-booster-jabs-grow-after-nurses-death

 

One died out of how many million? Think before you post please. 

54 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Covid-19: Chinese vaccines may need changes to improve efficacy, admits official

Published in April ...  

The phase III trials of China’s existing vaccines remain unpublished. For CoronaVac, the vaccine made by private company Sinovac, phase 1 and II data has been published2—showing a limited antibody response—while state owned Sinopharm has only said that its two vaccines have efficacy of 79.4% and 72.5%, based on interim results.

The phase III Sinovac trials conducted in Brazil, Chile, Indonesia, Turkey, and the Philippines have so far given sharply disparate unpublished results, with Brazilian researchers finding 50.7% efficacy, or 62.3% with longer dosing intervals,3 while Turkish researchers reported 83.5% efficacy.4 Sinovac’s efficacy was not diminished by the Brazilian P.1 variant, researchers there said.

A study of the Sinovac rollout by the University of Chile reported that the vaccine was 56.5% effective two weeks after second doses were administered in the country. However, they also reported that one dose was just 3% effective (rising to 27.7% within two weeks of the second dose, and 56.5% two weeks later).5

Responding to Gao’s comments, Siti Nadia Tarmizi, a spokeswoman for Indonesia’s covid-19 vaccine programme, said that her country’s phase III Sinovac trial will report efficacy of 65%.6 “The ability to form antibodies in our bodies is still very good,” she said.

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n969

 

 

 

All vaccine manufacturers are researching on improving vaccine effectiveness in the complexity of mutating virus variants. Study in Singapore revealed Pfizer is 69% effectiveness against the Delta variant.