Prominent Thai doctor says everyone will eventually catch Covid-19, we need to learn to live with it

[bangon04]

22 hours ago, bartender100 said:

It's inevitable, he is right.

 

Look at the UK, probably now one of the most open countries in the world, a mixture of a good vaccine roll out and herd immunity. They are saying 85% of the population now has anti-bodies. Only restriction is on overseas travel, you don't even have to isolate if in contact 

 

Almost a month now open and deaths and hospital admissions are low.

 

Went to London for a few days, life is normal, they are asking you to wear a mask on the tube, that's about it.

 

It's why I think Australia and New Zealand with be locked down the longest, Covid is not going away they will need to bite the bullet sooner or later and open up

Yet the UK government and media are still obsessing about infection rates and daily covid numbers.

 

What is important is the number of Covid Hospitalizations, and the number of confirmed Covid deaths. Then it is relevant how many of these are not vaccinated.

 

The daily number of asymptomatic infections are just fear.....

[Anton9]

5 hours ago, PeeJayEm said:

You wrote as though you think what happened in India was inevitable or necessary. What you are suggesting should "play out" is total defeat of the healthcare system, fighting in the street for oxygen bottles and an extrodinary number of deaths to achieve community immunity instead of vaccination.  Crude and callous.

It was indeed inevitable,what else could have been done in a country like India?

[ifmu]

On 8/19/2021 at 7:21 PM, RichardColeman said:

I think he's right on some things.

 

Vaccinate and try and get on with life , we need normal asap and Thailand is killing itself with no plan of recovery.

its killing itself with no plans  .....  any questions ?   phuket kittybox is not a solution it is a diversion for money

[Sametboy2019]

13 hours ago, Abik said:

The immunity last only for ½ a years, then you must have a new booster shot.

The only solution is to vaccinate the whole world and pray..., if it wont work, we'll have to live beside it until a real medicine will be found.

Not true. The researcher on the Joe Rogan show has antibodies after 10months.

They know this as they get tested before every show.

[Anton9]

6 hours ago, AndresSP said:

It's a good sign some voices of reason starting to pop up in Thai media. 

 

Looks like people in power starting to realise at last it's time to do away with incessant fearmongering and to work on shifting the public sentiment.

Thai media fearmongering is on another level and unfortunaltely it works much better here than in the west.

I noticed news anchor are wearing mask when alone in the studio,

I also think they are now starting to realize it's firing back up because the economy is sinking and they have to reopen asap. 

Maybe that's why their testing is going down.

[cclub75]

46 minutes ago, Anton9 said:

Thai media fearmongering is on another level and unfortunaltely it works much better here than in the west.

I noticed news anchor are wearing mask when alone in the studio,

I also think they are now starting to realize it's firing back up because the economy is sinking and they have to reopen asap.

 

You want to know the future ?

 

Look at Philippines...

 

Record "cases"... but they open again.

 

Source : https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/philippines-duterte-relax-coronavirus-curbs-capital-region-2021-08-19/

 

Because they can't mimic anymore the madness of rich western countries.

 

We put on the side Reality since january 2020... Now Reality is coming back. With a vengeance.

 

Do you seriously believe that millions, dozen of millions of people (just for South East Asia) will continue to keep quiet... after loosing everything ? That we can continue with closures, the destruction of the economy ?

 

That's a wet dream for terrified old baby boomers in western countries.

 

Aka : an ultra minority as far as the whole planet is concerned.

 

Thailand will eventually take the same path. Because it has no choice. Sure the Bangkok elite won't be happy... Covid is so fashion. Especially when you suffer no consequences.

 

But zero hope for millions of people that's a recipe for a revolution.

 

And within the already volatile political situation of the country, since many years... it would be plain madness to ignore this.

Edited August 20, 2021 by cclub75

[Danderman123]

15 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said:

ours was tested by DFAT and wife lost her taste of sense and smell for a month.  Any questions please send.  Thanks for the comment.  Hope you get your shot.

What is DFAT?

[Danderman123]

11 hours ago, pizzachang said:

Endemic, just like every other rhino and corona virus.

Nearly everyone survives, unless they have a weak immune system, or other diagnosed health issues.

Your internet friends who gave you those talking points failed to inform you that most people have some form of health issues, diagnosed or not.

[Danderman123]

16 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

But do the medical community really know the long term affects?

 

What if these vaccines are the new Thalidomide?

If you and other anti-vaxxers were serious, you would set up a charity to help those people who got vaccinated and now suffer the long term consequences.

[Danderman123]

16 hours ago, possum1931 said:

If what this guy says is true, I wonder what the time frame would be.

I would think that if it is true, the whole world should just open up now and try and get back to previous years before the Cvirus came. what would there be to lose?

India reportedly lost 4 million people.

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[The Cipher]

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India reportedly lost 4 million people.

Funnily enough, this could actually be spun as an argument for how dangerous Covid isn't rather than how dangerous it is.

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

India reportedly lost 4 million people.

You may very well be right, but who can you trust with all the different figures. Another thing, but this is just a thought, how many people die every year in India with other illnesses like the ordinary flu and phuemonia? Maybe that is linked in with the Cvirus statistics, as I say it's just a thought.

[Danderman123]

23 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

You may very well be right, but who can you trust with all the different figures. Another thing, but this is just a thought, how many people die every year in India with other illnesses like the ordinary flu and phuemonia? Maybe that is linked in with the Cvirus statistics, as I say it's just a thought.

Your thought doesn’t take into account the concept of “excess mortality”. Most people here know all about that, so when they see posts that suggest that Covid is a hoax because it’s really the flu, they know the poster is misinformed.

[Danderman123]

9 hours ago, cclub75 said:

 

You want to know the future ?

 

Look at Philippines...

 

Record "cases"... but they open again.

 

Source : https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/philippines-duterte-relax-coronavirus-curbs-capital-region-2021-08-19/

 

Because they can't mimic anymore the madness of rich western countries.

 

We put on the side Reality since january 2020... Now Reality is coming back. With a vengeance.

 

Do you seriously believe that millions, dozen of millions of people (just for South East Asia) will continue to keep quiet... after loosing everything ? That we can continue with closures, the destruction of the economy ?

 

That's a wet dream for terrified old baby boomers in western countries.

 

Aka : an ultra minority as far as the whole planet is concerned.

 

Thailand will eventually take the same path. Because it has no choice. Sure the Bangkok elite won't be happy... Covid is so fashion. Especially when you suffer no consequences.

 

But zero hope for millions of people that's a recipe for a revolution.

 

And within the already volatile political situation of the country, since many years... it would be plain madness to ignore this.

Manila has had a strict 2 week lockdown, and now a slight loosening of restrictions.

 

is the future of Thailand? To live permanently under near lockdown restrictions?

[hotandsticky]

17 hours ago, raccos21 said:

I guess you might be having tough time if the number is dropping.

No ???? .....................dropped to normal levels; the two peak periods saw cremations increase by 50%, and at other times +20% or so.

[NoshowJones]

40 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Your thought doesn’t taThe cvirus is no hoaxke into account the concept of “excess mortality”. Most people here know all about that, so when they see posts that suggest that Covid is a hoax because it’s really the flu, they know the poster is misinformed.

 

[Scott]

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[sezze]

Cut the <deleted> , yes we all going to get it . I you believe in all kinds of theories or not , does not matter . If you vaccinated larger chance you stay outside hospital .  No deniying it , vaccinated persons are less likely to die or have hospital admissions . There is no 100% solution , vaccinate and yes you might get sick also , but much less likely to be in serious problem .

[LongTimeLurker]

8 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

If you and other anti-vaxxers were serious, you would set up a charity to help those people who got vaccinated and now suffer the long term consequences.

Well I'm not an anti-vaxxer so yah-boo-sucks to you.

 

And shouldn't it be the responsibility of the drug companies that are making millions $$$$$$$$$ from these vaccines to help those that suffer long term consequences?

[LongTimeLurker]

7 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Your thought doesn’t take into account the concept of “excess mortality”. Most people here know all about that, so when they see posts that suggest that Covid is a hoax because it’s really the flu, they know the poster is misinformed.

Do you know that they apply "excess mortality" rates to 'flu yearly?

[LongTimeLurker]

On 8/20/2021 at 1:51 PM, trunav said:

If you follow the rules you don't get it, this is the only thing to tell

So you're saying that the 20,000+ a day getting Covid in Thailand are not wearing masks?

 

Because we all know that we've been told by "experts" that masks prevent Covid.

 

Especially when you're bonking apparently ????

[LongTimeLurker]

22 hours ago, Abik said:

if it wont work, we'll have to live beside it until a real medicine will be found.

That will never happen if drug companies can keep selling booster shots.

[JeffersLos]

On 8/19/2021 at 7:19 PM, smedly said:

what is wrong with some Thai people

 

What is right with any of them. 

[LongTimeLurker]

On 8/20/2021 at 3:15 PM, LongTimeLurker said:

It reads like you have a valid point to make, but I just can't understand what it is.

 

Can you explain better? I guess English is not your native language and you Google translated this?

Dash,

 

I wasn't trying to be funny or put you down or anything.

 

I just really think what you were trying to say got lost in translation, and that it may be worth hearing?

[StayinThailand2much]

On 8/19/2021 at 7:53 PM, mfd101 said:

Highly unlikely. Even with the virus conquered or at least left cowering in a corner, the whole world has changed as a result of the pandemic and it won't be going back to 2019: supply chains, expectations of governments, health consciousness, education methods, international relations, economic structures, digital economy and on & on ... And of course tourism: how much? where? how managed?

Certainly true. Things won't be the same for, at least, 5 or 10 years. That is, if this virus becomes as 'mild' as the yearly flu...

[StayinThailand2much]

23 hours ago, pizzachang said:

Endemic, just like every other rhino and corona virus.

Nearly everyone survives, unless they have a weak immune system, or other diagnosed health issues.

The difference to other rhino- and coronaviruses is, that this particular virus creates long-term damage all over the human body. That's why it is still my belief that this virus did not evolve naturally, but via enhancement in a laboratory.

Edited August 21, 2021 by StayinThailand2much

[LongTimeLurker]

2 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Certainly true. Things won't be the same for, at least, 5 or 10 years. That is, if this virus becomes as 'mild' as the yearly flu...

 But 'flu isn't always mild. According to ONC in UK in 2018 / 2019 over 50,000 Excess Winter Deaths occurred due to a new form of 'flu, which is more than Covid caused in the same period since its invention.

Edited August 21, 2021 by LongTimeLurker

[LongTimeLurker]

2 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

That's why it is still my belief that this virus did not evolve naturally, but via enhancement in a laboratory.

By the US via Faucci who was funding this sort of research in Wuhan!

[StayinThailand2much]

3 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

By the US via Faucci who was funding this sort of research in Wuhan!

An American guy on Youtube made some excellent clips about that topic in "China Uncensored".