Tourist faces huge bill, separation from family after testing positive on arrival in Thailand

[TonyFromItaly]

6 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:

For tourists: yes!

But there are so many expats desperately waiting to meet their loved ones after a year or more. I understand those who take the risk.

Yes true! I'm one of these..????

[NanaSomchai]

Post withdrawn.

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by NanaSomchai

[spidermike007]

Pathetic highly selective shutdowns. Pathetic response to Covid vaccination drive. Pathetic systematic destruction of tourism. And now, a highly pathetic attempt at re-opening. 

 

Can't these clowns get anything right? Why do the Thai people tolerate this kind of ineptitude? 

[LukKrueng]

1 hour ago, shady86 said:

I guess more test results will be manipulated soon so they can suck every single penny from the unfortunate ones. I wonder if the positive figures are actually real? 

If you believe EVERYBODY in Thailand is here "to get you" why are you even here??

[Paradise Pete]

30 minutes ago, WHansen said:

You do understand that if you sat next to a positive case on the plane, got sent into quarantine or hospital and did not test positive yourself, your insurance would not pay out ?

Has anyone who has not tested positive been sent to the hospital? It does not cover quarantining in a hotel, true but not surprising. You do understand I'm not defending the circumstances, I just answered the question.

[nomadinuk]

7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Combined with most uneducated.....  they could have picked up the Virus at the airport, how can anyone protect themselves from that ?

Or it could be a false positive either way he's stuck with a huge bill.

 

[Foexie]

8 hours ago, Chris.B said:

350,000 baht hospital bill, nearly £8,000 for 10 day stay! Must be a good room at 35,000 baht a night!

it's not that shocking at all. You can check some private hospitals online and find out they do charge 20-30kbht for a room/day. So the extra 5kbht for some care, food, treatment and ,in this case probably, alot of desinfecting products is quickly spend.

 

I'm sure he wasn't send to a public hospital. I went to a hospital in Bkk (think sukhum 4 or 5) with a high fever from flue. Had an injection, x-ray and some meds: bill was 2350bht in 2011.

 

And it's not different in many countries at all. I have seen before/after bills in Belgium too. Bills of 10-15k€ reduced to 200-300€ after healthcare.

 

Anyway why would he worry. He must have the 100k$ covid insurance or he couldn't get in Thailand could he?!

[Puccini]

8 hours ago, redsongthaew said:

 

AXA have an excellent policy:

 

https://axaxl.com/insurance/products/security-risks

...but AXA has an age limit.

[Rocking Robert]

Friday night went to my sons football game high school 19,000 people Saturday went to Texas A&M football game 110 thousand people did my COVID-19 test that night Sunday when did Dallas game 82,000 people money jumped on a plane I guess I’ll be OK

[Puccini]

8 hours ago, firestar said:

AETNA (Ex Bupa) covers it too.

What age limit does Aetna have with its Covid-19 insurance?

[Gottfrid]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Always plan for the worst and hope for the best. The worst is 350,000 baht.

Just a drop in the ocean. ????

[EricTh]

I don't understand this statement here.

 

Kirovs estimates he may have to pay 350,000 Baht towards hospital and quarantine fees if his insurance provider won’t cover it.

 

I though the compulsory health insurance is supposed to pay for it? If not, what is the insurance for?

[Tonypandy]

9 hours ago, Chris.B said:

350,000 baht hospital bill, nearly £8,000 for 10 day stay! Must be a good room at 35,000 baht a night!

Just a rip off

[Thai Visa Member 999999]

9 minutes ago, EricTh said:

I don't understand this statement here.

 

Kirovs estimates he may have to pay 350,000 Baht towards hospital and quarantine fees if his insurance provider won’t cover it.

 

I though the compulsory health insurance is supposed to pay for it? If not, what is the insurance for?

He's asymptomatic so he may have bought insurance that doesn't cover his circumstances. What it teaches you is to stop taking your meds if you test positive so you don't get screwed. I'm going off my bp meds to prepare for a possible + result. And if I have a stroke? I have health insurance so I'm good. ????  

[michaelgoulden]

  9 hours ago, wprime said:

Congratulations Kirovs. You're the reason we have these rules, because you can't be trusted to protect yourself from the virus before traveling.

 

Enjoy your 350,000 baht bill.

Congratulations. You're far ahead in the run to the "most-disgusting-post-2021" award.

 

I think wprime was just being sarcastic 

[Mr Dome]

Coming up: Some tourists contracts it during their trip and then finds out their insurance won't cover it, leaving them with a huge bill. We'll see it happen, unfortunately.

[Gracas]

Just how much insurance does a person need to have to be allowed to play in the Mine Field called Thailand.

Are most of these $50,000.00 policies available useless ?

Edited November 10, 2021 by Gracas
Word left out.

[Kalasin Jo]

The risk may be small but it is real. Who wants to be caught in this expensive trap.?

The Thai government are duty bound to spell out the consequences and the costs.

They don't because of course spelling it out is going to put people off.

Insurers offering this cover need to say spell out whether or not they cover symptomless hospitalisations AND the Thai requirement to quarantine in a hotel for 14 days if you are negative but you've been close to a positive case.

[it is what it is]

1 hour ago, EricTh said:

I don't understand this statement here.

 

Kirovs estimates he may have to pay 350,000 Baht towards hospital and quarantine fees if his insurance provider won’t cover it.

 

I though the compulsory health insurance is supposed to pay for it? If not, what is the insurance for?

the insurance is because the thai authorities are paranoid, and have a bee in their bonnet,  about foreigners being unable to pay hospital bills. they don't seem to have the same paranoia about foreigners being unable to pay hotel bills.

Edited November 10, 2021 by it is what it is

[Fairynuff]

3 hours ago, Russell17au said:

So if you show a positive test result to the current worlds most contagious virus you are not sick so you do not need to be hospitalised? So as far a concerned you must wait until a person is dying before they are taken to hospital for treatment. The people that I know who have had a positive result to this virus has been taken to hospital where they received treatment to try a minimise the affect and to try and stop it from progressing further. Which is something that they do not get when in Quarantine.

At this stage in the pandemic you’re not aware that most people do not get very sick? Of all the people I know personally, in different countries the only person who needed to be hospitalised was my brother in law. Your understanding seems to be limited at best.

[freedomnow]

Screw that, time to bring my g/f over and enjoy a jolly winter in the UK.

[NZAMBOY]

10 hours ago, James105 said:

Hopefully this will serve as a warning to other tourists intending to come here and they can make arrangements to go on holiday to an alternative country.   Many people were asking the question of what happens if someone tests positive on arrival and of course there was no clear answer and many suspected it would be the absolute horror show that it is. 

 

This testing + quarantine on arrival + insurance + expensive imprisonment for positive test (or negative test when near to someone positive) will only stop when the tourists vote with their wallets as this will force them to come up with more sensible requirements to come here, such as simply showing proof of vaccination and nothing else other than passport.  

Proof of vaccination does not exclude testing positive for Covid...just test before departure and test on arrival would be much more logical I would think...

[Time Traveller]

As long as there is involuntary quarantine,  why would anyone ever decide to travel to Thailand? 

Maybe he was clueless, or maybe just an idiot. Thailand sure does attract them

Edited November 10, 2021 by Time Traveller

[Letseng]

11 hours ago, redsongthaew said:

 

AXA have an excellent policy:

 

https://axaxl.com/insurance/products/security-risks

But there is an age limit.

[richard_smith237]

7 minutes ago, Time Traveller said:

As long as there is involuntary quarantine,  why would anyone ever decide to travel to Thailand? 

Maybe he was clueless, or maybe just an idiot. Thailand sure does attract them

Well, at least in years to come you’ll be able to travel back in time and look at yourself making this comment to draw the same conclusions I (many) have just made when reading this !!! 

 

You are suggesting anyone who gets on a plane to Thailand right now is an idiot or clueless - yet thousands are doing so each day...  More clueless would be to single out this as idiotic in comparison to all the other risks ignored in Thailand - in balance, the risk of testing positive in Test and Go is significantly less than catching Covid-19 in country. 

 

(0.12% of Sandboxers tested positive for Covid-19 / 2.8% of the Thai Population has had Covid-19).

 

I would agree with you, Thailand does attract them - the proof is in the pudding exampled by yourself..... irony huh !

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ratus]

12 minutes ago, Time Traveller said:

As long as there is involuntary quarantine,  why would anyone ever decide to travel to Thailand? 

Maybe he was clueless, or maybe just an idiot. Thailand sure does attract them

So maybe i'm  an idiot but when you go away your home : road risk , islam extremist risk, illness risk ,then you safety join the airport and a terrorist alarm and your flight cancelled

then your next flight crash etc...

Etc

but that's is nothing compare to my wife (she want to travel since 2 years...)

So ratus an idiot will take the risk

Why : because 

if Thailand is so much an interesting place it's because of all the reason you expose in that thread

not for Wat ,not for Smile etc 

 

[Accidental Tourist]

I am sorry to say so, but you must be plain innocence (or was it stupid) to visit countries without proper vaccination and genuine PCR test.

The rules when testing positive are international regulation, and not only for Thailand.

So what's the point of this news? You take the risk...is simple your responsibility. 

[daejung]

12 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not only if you test positive but as in the OP even if you test negative and were next to someone in the car or plane you still get carted off for 2 weeks. I doubt any International Insurance companies will pay out for this? Even if they do you also need to ensure they pay out there and then and not make you pay first.  Probably only Thai Insurance companies will cover this.

I will never go back to Thailand with such a risk. Going to quarantine only because you were seated by someone positive!

 

[CG1 Blue]

4 hours ago, Russell17au said:

So if you show a positive test result to the current worlds most contagious virus you are not sick so you do not need to be hospitalised? So as far a concerned you must wait until a person is dying before they are taken to hospital for treatment. The people that I know who have had a positive result to this virus has been taken to hospital where they received treatment to try a minimise the affect and to try and stop it from progressing further. Which is something that they do not get when in Quarantine.

It seems to have escaped your notice that only a miniscule number of people who test positive will get any symptoms at all, let alone need any treatment. 

If I cut my knee should I be hospitalised for a couple of weeks in case I get Tetanus? 

It's insane blocking up hospitals with asymptomatic 'patients'!

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, Accidental Tourist said:

I am sorry to say so, but you must be plain innocence (or was it stupid) to visit countries without proper vaccination and genuine PCR test.

What on earth are you spouting on about - Vaccinations in Thailand are as genuine as anywhere else. 

RT-PCR tests carried out in Thailand are as genuine as anywhere else. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Accidental Tourist said:

The rules when testing positive are international regulation, and not only for Thailand.

Do you just make stuff up ? there are no ‘international regulations’ if someone tests positive for Covid-19, each nation has its own response, advice and measures for anyone who tests positive for Covid-19.

 

International regulation !!! ???? do you believe your own BS ????

 

 

3 minutes ago, Accidental Tourist said:

So what's the point of this news? You take the risk...is simple your responsibility. 

There is of course a risk - the biggest complaint is that Thailand is not being very clear about the course of action if someone tests positive for Covid-19 at ‘Test & Go’. Neither is Thailand being very clear and negative proximity cases or what exactly negative proximity case is (i.e. how far away on a plane etc). 

As a result, insurance is not transparent either. 

 

This not the simplified ‘kid gloves’ world we are used to and Thailand kicks the can of responsibly providing information down a road full of potholes.