geisha Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, RichardColeman said: I was hoping to get back to the family in January, but hopefully they may remove it in mid jan when I was planning to go. Wont hold my breath though. The interesting - and worrying thing - will now be to see if airlines completely stop flying to thailand until after mid January since a lot of the bookings will be expected bookings over the next few weeks. You may well find that you have your Thai pass, but no airline ! Yes, same here. I’m in France. Im ok to do a Phuket sandbox as I’m flying there direct on the 15 th. The worry then is rebooking my hotel for 7 days sandbox, and not being to fly cause France goes into lockdown and holidays banned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cherrytreeview Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, KhaoYai said: Thanks for that, I hope it is correct but its not official and as you will know, anything can happen/change. Very reassuring though. Thought it would be helpful to some. You are quite right but i would think Mr Barrow won't be far from the mark. Although, no guarantees. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said: Who can book a holiday when you haven't a clue what the rules of entry will be in advance. Unless you have a crystal ball then the world is pretty much the same on this one..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Cherrytreeview said: The reality outside SA. And in London it is mostly the unvaccinated ending up in hospital, still over 1.5million people not vaccinated. Rumors and talk now of restricting things unvaccinated can do, same as Austria. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackGats Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, geisha said: Yes, same here. I’m in France. Im ok to do a Phuket sandbox as I’m flying there direct on the 15 th. The worry then is rebooking my hotel for 7 days sandbox, and not being to fly cause France goes into lockdown and holidays banned. I assume the hotel where you booked you one-night quarantine will be glad to rebook you for a full quarantine after you pay the difference. France will be banning holidays? Your own country stabbing you in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomacht8 Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, mtls2005 said: I'm shocked such a quick decision was taken. Highly unusual for the regime. Suspect they're seeing data that leads them to believe things will get very bad, worse than any previous waves. No. I belief they all want to go on holiday until 4 January. That could be the reason for the quick decision. Furthermore I guess the leaders can not read any data from worldwide medical and statistical sources coz they all writen in English language. Edited December 21, 2021 by tomacht8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigar Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) EU wants to make the covidpassports NOT valid more then 9 months to those who dont get the booster.Here we go.Im happyi get my booster 7th january.Here in norway 86% of the people age over 65 take the booster allready. Edited December 21, 2021 by stigar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, JackGats said: I assume the hotel where you booked you one-night quarantine will be glad to rebook you for a full quarantine after you pay the difference. France will be banning holidays? Your own country stabbing you in the back. There are already travel restrictions all over the place. If France goes into confinement, then you can’t go on holidays. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’d love to be. Mentioned in such a case * only necessary ( imperious) travel allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Petey11 said: And in London it is mostly the unvaccinated ending up in hospital, still over 1.5million people not vaccinated. Rumors and talk now of restricting things unvaccinated can do, same as Austria. Personally, I feel - like drunks - the NHS should make you pay the full care of your treatment if you have no good reason for not taking the jab and come down with covid. We all have a duty to protect our NHS and look after ourselves. You do not want to take the jab, that is up to you, I'm for free choice, but if you want NHS care for it and it could have been avoided, you get to pay the full cost of treatment 10 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackGats Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, geisha said: There are already travel restrictions all over the place. If France goes into confinement, then you can’t go on holidays. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’d love to be. Mentioned in such a case * only necessary ( imperious) travel allowed. Depends. Germany has been several times in confinement but travel (including holidays) was never banned. Belgium for instance has a history of banning "all non essential travel". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, JackGats said: Depends. Germany has been several times in confinement but travel (including holidays) was never banned. Belgium for instance has a history of banning "all non essential travel". Yes, I’ll just have to wait and see, or book my extra 6 days in Phuket and hope I can leave. Think I’ll do that. I’ll wait a few days see the updates first. All I know is that during our lockdowns’in France we weren’t allowed to travel outside our province . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Personally, I feel - like drunks - the NHS should make you pay the full care of your treatment if you have no good reason for not taking the jab and come down with covid. We all have a duty to protect our NHS and look after ourselves. You do not want to take the jab, that is up to you, I'm for free choice, but if you want NHS care for it and it could have been avoided, you get to pay the full cost of treatment I feel the same way about fat people, people that don't exercise, smokers and drinkers. There's a lot to be said for forced vaccination, forced diet restrictions and forced exercise. Maybe compulsory sterilisation for single moms as well. All for their own good and the benefit of the NHS and welfare services of course. As for the Thailand pass, we all knew in our hearts that wasn't going to last and that alcohol restrictions will be coming again very shortly, probably with lockdowns and restricted travel. Edited December 21, 2021 by BritManToo 4 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, geisha said: There are already travel restrictions all over the place. If France goes into confinement, then you can’t go on holidays. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’d love to be. Mentioned in such a case * only necessary ( imperious) travel allowed. You make simply an appointment with a thai doctor from a big hospital. Then you have a medical reason. Easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Wait I thought the NCPO was disbanded when he was made the PM and the CCSA was responsible for controlling covid. .[4] The NCPO was formally dissolved following the swearing-in of the new cabinet on 16 July 2019.[5][6] Critics like former Thai ambassador Pithaya Pookaman charge that the NCPO "...is practically still very much intact. Its arbitrary power[s] ... transferred to the existing Internal Security Operations Command chaired by the prime minister."[7] The "Internal Security Operations Command" should be changed to " Internal Security Usurpers Command" or ISUC for short! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: What was this year's mass vaccination campaign for then ???? Delta variant and below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamdan5485 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, StayinThailand2much said: Besides Bangkok, Phuket was 'the' destination for foreign tourists before the pandemic. And, as others have pointed out, traffic there is easily controllable. The vaccination rate including booster jab for Phuket is among the highest in Thailand compared to other provinces. That could be another "bet" as to why Phuket Sandbox is still alive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pravda Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 Test and don't go 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aussiexpat Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 Flight diverted. Was going to Bangkok 13 Jan, now find I can go to Singapore from 15 Jan quarantine free instead of having to do 7 days locked in Phuket Sandbox Easy decision 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I feel the same way about fat people, people that don't exercise, smokers and drinkers. There's a lot to be said for forced vaccination, forced diet restrictions and forced exercise. Maybe compulsory sterilisation for single moms as well. All for their own good and the benefit of the NHS and welfare services of course. There's a pretty strong argument for anyone who does anything at all that increases their risk of using NHS services to have waived any claim to it. Dangerous or high-stressed job, risky sports, not looking both ways before crossing the road, wearing a camouflaged jacket, and so on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drenddy Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Overkill decision. With no mass testing or genom sequencing, it's completely useless and merely a political decision. Like in any other country, politicians must show the people, they do something. Stop the Planet.I wanna get off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, Petey11 said: And in London it is mostly the unvaccinated ending up in hospital, still over 1.5million people not vaccinated. Rumors and talk now of restricting things unvaccinated can do, same as Austria. Sad that it has to come to this. But if they only believe in vaccines once they're in the ICU, what else can we do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherHun Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, drenddy said: Stop the Planet.I wanna get off. Reality.sys is corrupt. Reboot universe? Y/N 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drenddy Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, stigar said: EU wants to make the covidpassports NOT valid more then 9 months to those who dont get the booster.Here we go.Im happyi get my booster 7th january.Here in norway 86% of the people age over 65 take the booster allready. Skandinavien is one of the most controlled area in the world. It is striking to see the degree of which citizens obey the rules, they called confidence in the authorities, I call it brainwashing. There are almost no protest whatsoever over the Government's policy, at least in Denmark, pretty sure it's not too much different in Norway. The media is merely a Government channel news. Don't get me wrong, I am not into conspiracies, I am vaccinated, but I see democracy slowly dissapear. Can we get a bit of Mexico in Denmark, please? Or some French resistance(not like under the 2nd WW though)? Edited December 21, 2021 by drenddy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drenddy Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said: Reality.sys is corrupt. Reboot universe? Y/N Or ask a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Personally, I feel - like drunks - the NHS should make you pay the full care of your treatment if you have no good reason for not taking the jab and come down with covid. We all have a duty to protect our NHS and look after ourselves. You do not want to take the jab, that is up to you, I'm for free choice, but if you want NHS care for it and it could have been avoided, you get to pay the full cost of treatment I wonder, do you realise that 'we' already pay for the NHS through our taxes? The drunks pay more tax than most as there's a load of taxes on all alcohol, maybe you should pay more to make up for your shortfall if you don't drink enough? There's another often used argument about how smokers are a drain on the NHS but if you look at the amount of money in taxes collected it simply doesn't add up which is why they never show the actual cost (it's negative to the tune of billions a year) - they pay for a lot more of the system than they ever use. Careful what you wish for as you might just get it.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: There's a pretty strong argument for anyone who does anything at all that increases their risk of using NHS services to have waived any claim to it. Not quite. The cost of smoking to the NHS doesn't come anywhere near the amount of tax smokers pay. If everyone stopped smoking tomorrow, other taxes would have to rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackGats Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Hey folks, news just in: I got my TP approved. Applied 90 minutes ago. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post michel7752 Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Sad that it has to come to this. But if they only believe in vaccines once they're in the ICU, what else can we do? Let them pay for the cost of treatment. I is OUR health system because WE pay the health premiums and contributions. To any unvaccinated idot who wants to stress OUR health system: o.k. - go ahead please - but you will have to cover the costs yourself. By the way, I am against mandatory vaccination. Because I fully respect the freedom and the right of any unvaccinated person to be an idot and to remain an idiot. But that person should not have the right any more to fly, to board a train, to shop, and not even to put one single foot into a pharmacy. Edited December 21, 2021 by michel7752 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aussiexpat Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, JackGats said: Hey folks, news just in: I got my TP approved. Applied 90 minutes ago. I could have done the same as have everything booked. I just couldn't bring myself to do it as Thailand has really <deleted> me off with the constant changes motivated by Politics or baht...also no security they won't flip again before my 13 Jan flight... ...looking for elsewhere to spend my money Edited December 21, 2021 by aussiexpat 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustAnotherHun Posted December 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, michel7752 said: I is OUR health system because WE pay the health premiums and contributions. To any unvaccinated idot who wants to stress OUR health system: o.k. - go ahead please - but you will have to cover the costs yourself. Just for the record: It's THEIR health system too 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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