webfact Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 By Erich Parpart The opening of the Kunming-Vientiane high speed rail network could bring opportunity to Thailand’s North East but government negotiators must be wary of pitfalls and problems should they expose the region to China’s Belt and Road Initiative. Thailand should be especially vigilant of China’s non-tariff barriers that could impair Thailand’s ability to export through the rail line. Opportunity abound but caution necessary Pavida Pananond, an Associate Professor of International Business at Thammasat University, said that the recently opened Kunming-Vientiane railway could provide many development opportunities for Thailand’s northeast and become a gateway for the country to join this regional rail network. Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/36703/chinese-high-speed-trains-bring-destruction-for-thai-farmers/ -- © Copyright Thai Enquirer 2022-01-20 - Aetna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RandiRona Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Common...its all sinophobia...CCP is nice to everyone....ask HK, Taiwan,Phillipines, India, Vietnam, Srilanka and many other devil countries which keep grudge with CCP. CCP just want to trade and grab territory...nothing wrong with that if you are strong and others are fool. Edited January 20, 2022 by RandiRona 11 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geoffggi Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 The problem is Thailand is already becoming reliant on China but China is ruthless and will take advantage of any country especially weak ones. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mokwit Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, Geoffggi said: The problem is Thailand is already becoming reliant on China but China is ruthless and will take advantage of any country especially weak ones. They create that reliance by opening up their markets and then having that power over you - they can play on the fact that you can't switch sales of Durian to other countries quick enough to avoid it spoiling. The world needs to get really tough with Xi's China. 27 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mavideol Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Chinese high speed trains bring destruction for Thai farmers... Not only to the farmers but to All Thais Can't let it go, have to say it ... couple years ago when it all started, we (some of us here at TV) told you (Thais) to be careful with what to wish for... now don't come back crying ouyt the blues.... you were warned... We Told You So 555 Edited January 20, 2022 by Mavideol 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mavideol Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, RandiRona said: Common...its all sinophobia...CCP is nice to everyone....ask HK, Taiwan,Phillipines, India, Vietnam, Srilanka and many other devil countries which keep grudge with CCP. CCP just want to trade and grab territory...nothing wrong with that if you are strong and others are fool. many other ones come to mind..... many African countries and some South & Central America 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RandiRona Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Mavideol said: many other ones come to mind..... many African countries and some South & Central America Yes but since Thai may not able to relate it to them, I gave them examples closer to them but as you and I know that Thai politicians arent known to have a spine and lack strategic vision. Phillipine just bought Brahmos missile from India to deter CCP from their nefarious intention in South China sea and what Thailand is doing is purchasing submarines from China?? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, RandiRona said: Yes but since Thai may not able to relate it to them, I gave them examples closer to them but as you and I know that Thai politicians arent known to have a spine and lack strategic vision. Phillipine just bought Brahmos missile from India to deter CCP from their nefarious intention in South China sea and what Thailand is doing is purchasing submarines from China?? Relax. This is topic is about economic competition and opportunities from the HS train. Not war and peace. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stocky Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Relax. This is topic is about economic competition and opportunities from the HS train. Not war and peace. Some folks response to the mere mention of 'China' is purely Pavlovian 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nabby Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Any "deal" involving China and another country will and can only result in catastrophe for the other nation. Once you let the Chinese in, it's over. Edited January 20, 2022 by Nabby typo 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Geoffggi said: The problem is Thailand is already becoming reliant on China but China is ruthless and will take advantage of any country especially weak ones. Not forgetting dysfunctional ones.. Thailands about to get hit big time when this railway starts bringing in cheap Chinese products. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tarteso Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, hotchilli said: ..starts bringing in cheap Chinese products. They are already here ???? Edited January 20, 2022 by Tarteso 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placnx Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Eric Loh said: Relax. This is topic is about economic competition and opportunities from the HS train. Not war and peace. Unfortunately China has rearmed to the point that through military action it can sink the world economy. HS train is only a small part of its hegemonist policy. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomazbodner Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 From linked full articles: Prapat Panyachatraksa, chairman of the National Farmers Council, told local news in December that he was “worried” that Chinese products are “flooding in” but the Thai government was not setting up any defense measures. On the other hand, Beijing was imposing many strict non-tariff barriers on Thai products, he said. ... Commerce minister Jurin Laksanawisit said on January 15 that Thai fruits cannot be sent to China via the railway because the route only accepts ores, rubber and cassava into the mainland at the moment. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, Tarteso said: They are already here ???? Always room for more... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I’d like to think China is harmless, and can lend a helping hand to lesser nations—but I know better. Just hope lesser nations also know better. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Chinese high speed trains bring destruction for Thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RocketDog Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Mavideol said: many other ones come to mind..... many African countries and some South & Central America Xi is an equal opportunity despot. He is willing to plunder regardless of race, gender, creed, or religion. After all, if you plan to run the world then you have to, you know, run the World. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JayBird Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 So, how is Chinese produce compared to Thai? Will it have less chemicals, pesticides, hormones, etc? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Prices drop, minor really, compared to the impact the horde will have. Those coming on planes were bad enough, the numbers on trains will dwarf that. Once their masters allow them to travel of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tubulat Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 More and more I get the feeling that Xi is worser than the dictator in the years about '35-'45 last century. I'm wrong? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 11 hours ago, webfact said: non-tariff barriers Thailand wants to tax everyone imports while getting a free ride. Import taxes are very high here making even the most meager imported goods out of the reach of the common consumers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Meeseeks Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, tomazbodner said: From linked full articles: Prapat Panyachatraksa, chairman of the National Farmers Council, told local news in December that he was “worried” that Chinese products are “flooding in” but the Thai government was not setting up any defense measures. On the other hand, Beijing was imposing many strict non-tariff barriers on Thai products, he said. ... Commerce minister Jurin Laksanawisit said on January 15 that Thai fruits cannot be sent to China via the railway because the route only accepts ores, rubber and cassava into the mainland at the moment. This is what happens when the Chinese immigrants cease to be just a merchant class but actually take over and make policy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemianfish Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Isaan sailor said: I’d like to think China is harmless, and can lend a helping hand to lesser nations—but I know better. Just hope lesser nations also know better. Likely the bribery by officials to get rich and put the needs of the country after that. This is a worldwide problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gearbox Posted January 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Stocky said: Some folks response to the mere mention of 'China' is purely Pavlovian True but it brings business page views and comments. It is better for the business to post news which contain: * China * Anutin (this one scores high) * Prayut (not as good as Anutin) * Sinovac (guaranteed 3 pages of comments and slurs) * 4 Indians, 4 Straws, one beer ( sounds like a western movie title) * Rude Russians * Arabs (these seem not to get much into the news lately) * Nigerians ( they are all into scams) * Refugees in boats taking over * Somchai misbehaving and not respecting the Big Boss - this one is a generic and always available 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyWorld Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The only country that seems to have dealt with this monster successfully is India. It's time other Asian countries team up with India to counter the growing threat of China in the region 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saanim Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, MrJ2U said: Thailand wants to tax everyone imports while getting a free ride. Import taxes are very high here making even the most meager imported goods out of the reach of the common consumers. Can you disclose what did you import and how much import tax did you pay? If it was from Asian country there are special forms that allow you import with zero tax or almost zero.. Even if from non-Asian country, there are commodities with also very low tax, e.g. , some raw material. BTW, do you know an import-tax-free country? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saanim Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, SunnyWorld said: The only country that seems to have dealt with this monster successfully is India. It's time other Asian countries team up with India to counter the growing threat of China in the region Do you mean the ACFTA (ASEAN-China Free Trade Area)? How does it counter the China threat? And what about AIFTA (ASEAN-India Free Trade area)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearbox Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, SunnyWorld said: The only country that seems to have dealt with this monster successfully is India. It's time other Asian countries team up with India to counter the growing threat of China in the region And how it handled China? https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/sinoindia-trade-at-record-125-billion-amid-border-tension-deficit-widens-101642180809440.html Record mutual trade and record trade deficit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearbox Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Chinese tomatoes at 20 baht a kilo - bring them in! Last time I was in Makro Samui the tomatoes were between 70 and 140 bahts a kilo. The Chinese tomatoes are probably as crappy as the Thai tomatoes, but at least are way cheaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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