johng Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 10 minutes ago, Mavideol said: finally see some light at the end of the tunnel That light is the Russian ICMB train steaming straight towards you ! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, johng said: That light is the Russian ICMB train steaming straight towards you ! ICMB? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 10 minutes ago, johng said: That light is the Russian ICMB train steaming straight towards you ! trolling ???? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said: ICMB? ICBM intercontinental ballistic missile....I swapped M and B and thus am a troll ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, johng said: ICBM intercontinental ballistic missile....I swapped M and B and thus am a troll ? I didn't say anything about trolling. However I should point out that the use of intercontinental ballistic missiles is to target places located a long, long way away - usually on a different continent (the clue is in the name). If Russia were going to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, they would be tactical battlefield nukes, not ICBM's. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said: If Russia were going to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, they would be tactical battlefield nukes, not ICBM's. If NATO/Euro/US keeps up the provocation they may use them and thus WWIII ? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, johng said: If NATO/Euro/US keeps up the provocation they may use them and thus WWIII ? Russia invaded Ukraine, they are the aggressors, they are the ones provoking this war, why do you feel it necessary to defend a autocratic terrorist country like Russia? 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scottiejohn Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, johng said: If NATO/Euro/US keeps up the provocation they may use them and thus WWIII ? I think if you look with open eyes and mind that the provocation was when Russia (Putin) invaded Ukraine! 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 19 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said: If Russia were going to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, they would be tactical battlefield nukes, not ICBM's. Does that make them any safer or less likely to be retaliated against with opposing nuclear weapons? Edited April 24 by scottiejohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, scottiejohn said: Does that make them any safer? Depends what you mean by "safer," In terms of their actual destructive power, and the amount of nuclear fallout, they would cause less death and damage than an ICBM strike would. They should still never be used, of course. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 15 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: why do you feel it necessary to defend a autocratic terrorist country like Russia? Because they where provoked...by the equally autocratic "terrorist" US/Euro/NATO 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, johng said: Because they where provoked...by the equally autocratic "terrorist" US/Euro/NATO How? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, johng said: Because they where provoked...by the equally autocratic "terrorist" US/Euro/NATO No they wasn't provoked, explain your assertions! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 18 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: I think if you look with open eyes and mind that the provocation was when Russia (Putin) invaded Ukraine! Nope the provocation started shortly after the fall of the Berlin wall/Soviet union collapse with NATO expansion culminating in the war in Ukraine...which BTW Russia has won. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, johng said: Nope the provocation started shortly after the fall of the Berlin wall/Soviet union collapse with NATO expansion culminating in the war in Ukraine...which BTW Russia has won. NATO equates to members joining for the fear of being attacked by Russia, which would explain why there are more members now than at first when Putins army invaded Ukraine, the concept is not difficult, why are you finding it so! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 9 minutes ago, jvs said: How? Continued east ward expansion of NATO, they have clearly said that NATO on the immediate Russian border is a red line...remember the Cuban missile crisis ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 Just now, johng said: Continued east ward expansion of NATO, they have clearly said that NATO on the immediate Russian border is a red line...remember the Cuban missile crisis ? Russia has no say in who joins NATO, it has nothing to do with Russia who joins NATO, for without Russia there would be no NATO! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: NATO equates to members joining for the fear of being attacked by Russia, NATO was formed after an attack by Germany not Russia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Russia has no say in who joins NATO, it has nothing to do with Russia who joins NATO, for without Russia there would be no NATO! Of course they have no say in who joins NATO as they are not members they can express disapproval of continuing NATO expansion toward their border. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 10 minutes ago, johng said: NATO was formed after an attack by Germany not Russia. NATO was formed in 1949 to form a pact against russia. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jvs Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 21 minutes ago, johng said: Continued east ward expansion of NATO, they have clearly said that NATO on the immediate Russian border is a red line...remember the Cuban missile crisis ? Does that make any sense?By trying to invade the Ukraine the russians are moving closer to NATO themselves! russia also helped to convince Sweden and Finland to join NATO. but of course we were given excuses and no reasons. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 16 minutes ago, johng said: NATO was formed after an attack by Germany not Russia. NATO was formed to prevent the Russians from attacking peaceful countries, something that Russia could not pride itself with! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 12 minutes ago, johng said: Of course they have no say in who joins NATO as they are not members they can express disapproval of continuing NATO expansion toward their border. They can disapprove as much as they like, it makes no difference. Finland and Sweden had no intention of joining NATO until Russia illegally invaded Ukraine. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 35 minutes ago, johng said: Nope the provocation started shortly after the fall of the Berlin wall/Soviet union collapse with NATO expansion culminating in the war in Ukraine...which BTW Russia has won. I think you should beam yourself back up to whatever planet you came from as the history of this earth is obviously alien to you! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, jvs said: How? When, where and by whom? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kwonitoy Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 Hit the refineries, next hit the storage depots 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mavideol Posted April 25 Popular Post Share Posted April 25 not too much of a secret since they know about it, well done Ukraine Ukraine attacked Russia with long-range ballistic missiles secretly supplied by US https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-attacked-russia-long-range-190325214.html 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mavideol Posted April 25 Popular Post Share Posted April 25 Ukraine-Russia war live: Kyiv to ‘step up long-range missile strikes’ on Putin’s forces after secret US delivery https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-former-074406170.html 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jvs Posted April 25 Popular Post Share Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, Mavideol said: Ukraine-Russia war live: Kyiv to ‘step up long-range missile strikes’ on Putin’s forces after secret US delivery https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-former-074406170.html Range long enough to take out the bridge! 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 is anybody surprised with Russia veto, I am not Russia vetoes UN vote on stopping arms race in outer space https://au.yahoo.com/news/russia-vetoes-un-vote-stopping-045033496.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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