Prolonged Russia-Ukraine war could derail Thai economic recovery

[placnx]

6 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Interesting to see that the USA has been busy bombing other countries since WW11, just saying.

 

China 1945-46

Korea 1950-53

China 1950-53

Guatemala 1954

Indonesia 1958

Cuba 1959-60

Guatemala 1960

Belgian Congo 1964

Guatemala 1964

Dominican Republic 1965-66

Peru 1965

Laos 1964-73

Vietnam 1961-73

Cambodia 1969-70

Guatemala 1967-69

Lebanon 1982-84

Grenada 1983-84

Libya 1986

El Salvador 1981-92

Nicaragua 1981-90

Iran 1987-88

Libya 1989

Panama 1989-90

Iraq 1991

Kuwait 1991

Somalia 1992-94

Bosnia 1995

Iran 1998

Sudan 1998

Afghanistan 1998

Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999

Afghanistan 2001

Libya 2011

Iraq and Syria 2014 –

Somalia 2011 –

Iran 2020 –

 

There I was thinking I lived in a perfect world, well Isan sure is looking good at the moment.

About the only mass bombing in this list is Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos 61-73, i.e. comparable to what is going on now in Ukraine, an unprovoked full-scale invasion. The rest are isolated strikes, proxy or limited operations. As for US involvement in Iran, the most egregious is the CIA overthrow of the government in 1953 (not on your list). Korea 50-53 was a defensive war; Iraq 91 was the result of Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. 

[JackGats]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Except that it was Iraq that attacked Iran. JackGats' example was about a prosperous stable nation being attacked which is exactly the reverse case. 

Yes you're right. Iraq attacked Iran, ie attacked the US's enemy number 1. Then Iraq was rewarded by the US by total destruction. If that is not evil, what is?

[DjSilver]

Who cares about Thai economy when their ally makes an illegal war?

[JackGats]

3 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

No surprise. Inadequate men often show support and admiration for these types of people.

 

And there are plenty of inadequate men in the RTP.

What worries me about this is not Thailand's political stance in this or other matters, but Thailand eventually getting on the wrong side of sanctions. I need SWIFT from EU to TH and I don't want TH to end up on a black list.

[Enoon]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Decidedly just as chilling......

Putin thinks that he is the spirit of Russia.......The Third Rome.

 

Moscow, third Rome - Wikipedia

"The ideas of the Russian world are used as a justification for the revival of the Russian Empire"

 

He thinks that if he fails......Russia fails.

 

He's not the first megalomaniac to identify in such a way.

 

I'm pretty sure that there are plenty around him who do not agree and could live in acceptable comfort in a Russia without Putin.

 

Emperors were ten a penny, and frequently found themselves "replaced", in Byzantium.

 

 

Edited February 28, 2022 by Enoon

[Enoon]

Nearly forgot my purpose for logging on:

 

Russia doubles interest rate.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60550992

 

 

[Enoon]

2 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Any idea how many permanent Russian residents there are in Thailand? The SWIFT sanction is gonna screw them over through no fault of their own. Not just a terrible exchange rate, there is currently NO exchange available to them.

Time for you wield a bit of "soft power"?

 

 

[Enoon]

8 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Interesting to see that the USA has been busy bombing other countries since WW11, just saying.

 

China 1945-46

Korea 1950-53

China 1950-53

Guatemala 1954

Indonesia 1958

Cuba 1959-60

Guatemala 1960

Belgian Congo 1964

Guatemala 1964

Dominican Republic 1965-66

Peru 1965

Laos 1964-73

Vietnam 1961-73

Cambodia 1969-70

Guatemala 1967-69

Lebanon 1982-84

Grenada 1983-84

Libya 1986

El Salvador 1981-92

Nicaragua 1981-90

Iran 1987-88

Libya 1989

Panama 1989-90

Iraq 1991

Kuwait 1991

Somalia 1992-94

Bosnia 1995

Iran 1998

Sudan 1998

Afghanistan 1998

Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999

Afghanistan 2001

Libya 2011

Iraq and Syria 2014 –

Somalia 2011 –

Iran 2020 –

 

There I was thinking I lived in a perfect world, well Isan sure is looking good at the moment.

Is this your idea of rhetoric?

 

 

 

 

[off road pat]

8 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

At least we’re good at something.  We haven’t done well at electing good leaders lately.

A country that has 50 kinds of toilet paper to chose from in it's supermarkets,...but only 2 party's to chose from as president !? has a serious problem !!!

[off road pat]

41 minutes ago, Enoon said:

Time for you wield a bit of "soft power"?

 

 

The Russian Ruble has lost 30% of it's value from yesterday.

 

[Regyai]

8 hours ago, Isaanlife said:

How long would it take the nuclear fallout to drift to Thailand?

Mai pen lai double masks 

[placeholder]

2 hours ago, JackGats said:

Yes you're right. Iraq attacked Iran, ie attacked the US's enemy number 1. Then Iraq was rewarded by the US by total destruction. If that is not evil, what is?

Well, actually, the US materially supported Iraq after things started going downhill for the Iraqis. This despite the fact that Iraq was using poison gas. Now that was evil. It was only after Iraq occupied Kuwait that the US turned against it. You really think that was evil?

[bangon04]

8 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Yes, not only London....someone was telling me they were big in Cyprus of all places!

Cyprus hands out EU passports quite happily for rich people. Also Malta.

[4MyEgo]

1 hour ago, Enoon said:

Is this your idea of rhetoric?

 

 

 

 

Did you come up with this all by yourself ?

[LittleBear57]

16 hours ago, smedly said:

well I am going to say the same thing I said a few days ago

 

The Thai government/authorities need to shut # #  up

 

They should not be commenting on what is going on - Ukraine is a free country paving their own future and then along comes mad man Putin  who is trying to bomb his way into peoples hearts ............. on what level does that work ?...........in his head only it seems 

 

My opinion is - the Russian people will not put up with this just as the world doesnt, Russians who have been sent into Ukraine will already be asking themselves ........what the # are we doing here .................................... Mental mad dog Putin will be  gone  very soon, he will not be allowed to progress this nonsense 

 

Bye Bye

Whilst I truly hope you are right, Uncle Joe Stalin was around far too long and he killed millions of his own people. Mad dog will be difficult to be rid of, I fear.

 

On the effect on Thai tourism we should see Russians leaving in their droves soon and non coming in to replace them. Simple fact is the drop in value of the Rouble.

[Danderman123]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

Well, actually, the US materially supported Iraq after things started going downhill for the Iraqis. This despite the fact that Iraq was using poison gas. Now that was evil. It was only after Iraq occupied Kuwait that the US turned against it. You really think that was evil?

Not to mention all the Native Americans we killed back in the day.

 

But the occupation of Iraq was started 3 administrations ago, and this is now. We can’t let the errors of the past hinder us from stopping the current nightmare in Ukraine.

[zig]

21 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

No one is excusing Putin's actions, but when you provide countries with NATO support, right up to Russia's borders, your looking for a fight.

I think those countries would disagree and say that if there was no NATO support then Russia would have invaded them long ago. Russia is now proving this point again. 

[John Drake]

On 2/28/2022 at 11:10 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Meanwhile we have those in high positions here actively embracing the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

 

Opinion: Thailand’s conservatives are throwing their support behind Putin, should we be surprised?

 

“I would like to send a morale support for President Vladimir Putin and the Russian army. I always like his leadership and decisiveness and he is clearly friendly to the Kingdom of Thailand and trustworthy, like President Xi Jinping,” wrote Police Major General Rianthong Nanna, the director of Mongkutwattana Hospital.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/37935/opinion-thailands-conservatives-are-throwing-their-support-behind-putin-should-we-be-surprised/

 

China doesn't hesitate to tell Thailand what it must do--or else. In the past, Putin has made similar threats as well. Unfortunately, the US and Europe have been pusillanimous, bragging about how they don't want to make Thailand or SE Asia choose.  The result has been that Thailand along with nearly all of Asean has chosen to support Russia and go onside with China, albeit quietly. And now we see from your article that the Thai ruling class has also outwardly proclaimed its animus towards America and Europe. Okay, let them do so. But they need to pay the price for doing so. Let the elites send their children to study in China and Russia, not the West. Like the oligarchs, perhaps some freezes on Western bank and property holdings could come down the pike as well. 

[4MyEgo]

3 hours ago, zig said:

I think those countries would disagree and say that if there was no NATO support then Russia would have invaded them long ago. Russia is now proving this point again. 

We can all speculate, however if Russia wants to go into those other countries it will, NATO doesn't scare Putin, if he wants to go all the way, he will, what transpires from that, we can also speculate about.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

We can all speculate, however if Russia wants to go into those other countries it will, NATO doesn't scare Putin, if he wants to go all the way, he will, what transpires from that, we can also speculate about.

Watch and learn. 

[Mavideol]

Thai well known excuse " it's not us it's them" always somebody's else fault, wonder what excuse would have been if Russia didn't invade Ukraine

[Tug]

Hopefully Putin will be gone asap so less suffering for the Ukrainians and the russans as well we here in the states could lose a few as well!