Electric driveway gates

[SharksinBkk]

Looking for recommendations for auto gate suppliers/installers in Bangkok. Specifically looking for alloy/Aluminium gates, hinged not sliding. Current gates are steel and too heavy to add automatic opener to, (and they are ready to be replaced anyway). Appreciate any feedback/recommendations from any company you may have used here. Similar style to the attached pic. 

[Yellowtail]

Nice digs! 

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

  On 3/7/2022 at 7:56 AM, Yellowtail said:

Nice digs! 

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I'm not impressed with the lightning protection.

 

  On 3/7/2022 at 4:50 AM, SharksinBkk said:

auto gate

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You can pay a uniformed man to sit there and salute you as he operates the gate for around 13,000 Baht/month. Doubles as security, kill two birds with one stone and feel like a king.

 

 

 

[Crossy]

Actually on-topic ???? 

 

Our gates are stainless with wood infill, I'm not sure of anyone is doing aluminium gates, there may be strength issues.

 

Our gates are pretty heavy but the DEA actuators and controller have no problem opening and closing the beasts.

 

The gates, I'll hunt out the specs for the actuators and controller.

 

 

 

EDIT We have DEA "LOOK" actuators 

https://www.deasystem.com/en/product/look-the-automation-for-large-sized-swing-gates

 

 

[Yellowtail]

Nice place as well!

 

Someone fishing your ditch? 

[tonray]

Great thread...also in the market for replacement gate....still deciding whether I want to go manual or electric, usually not in/out more than once a day anyway. 

[Crossy]

  On 3/8/2022 at 1:57 AM, tonray said:

Great thread...also in the market for replacement gate....still deciding whether I want to go manual or electric, usually not in/out more than once a day anyway. 

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When it's hammering down tropical style, opening manual gates gets old very rapidly, even once a day ???? 

[tonray]

  On 3/8/2022 at 2:00 AM, Crossy said:

 

When it's hammering down tropical style, opening manual gates gets old very rapidly, even once a day ???? 

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yeah...that is a very good point...not to mention GF whining for years about why we didn't get automatic gate...even more perilous...ha ha ha

[Yellowtail]

  On 3/8/2022 at 2:00 AM, Crossy said:

 

When it's hammering down tropical style, opening manual gates gets old very rapidly, even once a day ???? 

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I thought you were married...

[Crossy]

We have a DEA NET230N controller https://www.deasystem.com/en/accessories/control-units as the LOOK actuators we have are 230V.

 

BLT are the local DEA agents in Bangkok https://bltassociates.co.th/

 

[Will B Good]

Jeez.......am I the only one on here living in a shed?

[Crossy]

  On 3/8/2022 at 2:07 AM, Yellowtail said:

I thought you were married...

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Indeed, and I wish to remain married ???? 

 

A mate (sadly now passed) had an "automatic" gate in K.L.

 

He had a wireless doorbell remote in the car, when he pushed it the Burmese maid came running out and opened the gate. She did moan (well I think she moaned, it was in Burmese) if it was raining.

[tonray]

I general, how much does an automatic (electric) system add to the cost of a gate system ?

[lopburi3]

  On 3/8/2022 at 2:07 AM, Yellowtail said:

I thought you were married...

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Perhaps he wants to remain married.  ????

[Yellowtail]

  On 3/8/2022 at 2:10 AM, tonray said:

I general, how much does an automatic (electric) system add to the cost of a gate system ?

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This is a "how long is a piece of string" question.

[tonray]

  On 3/8/2022 at 2:15 AM, Yellowtail said:

This is a "how long is a piece of string" question.

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Ok...simple query...how much did 'your' opener add to the cost of 'your' gate ?

[Yellowtail]

  On 3/8/2022 at 2:19 AM, tonray said:

Ok...simple query...how much did 'your' opener add to the cost of 'your' gate ?

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That's a great question, but I don't have a gate. 

 

 

 

 

[Crossy]

  On 3/8/2022 at 2:19 AM, tonray said:

Ok...simple query...how much did 'your' opener add to the cost of 'your' gate ?

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The DEA system for our beasts of gates was about 25k installed. BUT. That was in 2012, I doubt things will have gotten cheaper.

 

Swing gate systems seem to be considerably more costly than sliders.

 

[Yellowtail]

  On 3/8/2022 at 2:40 AM, Crossy said:

 

The DEA system for our beasts of gates was about 25k installed. BUT. That was in 2012, I doubt things will have gotten cheaper.

 

Swing gate systems seem to be considerably more costly than sliders.

 

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In my opinion, actuating a swing-gate unnecessarily is a mistake. 

 

It is also my opinion that premature gate actuator failure is primarily do to a poorly configured, poorly functioning and or poorly maintained gate. 

 

Start with a well functioning gate, and check it manually once in a while to make sure it's still working correctly. 

 

 

[sometimewoodworker]

  On 3/8/2022 at 2:10 AM, tonray said:

I general, how much does an automatic (electric) system add to the cost of a gate system ?

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Ours was around ฿16,000 it’s a sliding gate and the opening speed isn’t that fast so giving enough time to avoid the close, it also has a safety at the hight of a child that will reverse the closing.

[tonray]

  On 3/8/2022 at 10:36 AM, sometimewoodworker said:

Ours was around ฿16,000 it’s a sliding gate and the opening speed isn’t that fast so giving enough time to avoid the close, it also has a safety at the hight of a child that will reverse the closing.

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Thank you very helpful

[tjo o tjim]

  On 3/8/2022 at 4:46 AM, Yellowtail said:

It is also my opinion that premature gate actuator failure is primarily do to a poorly configured, poorly functioning and or poorly maintained gate. 

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The hinges and proper alignment are critical.  Cheap hinges will cause pain for the life of the gate.

[4MyEgo]

  On 3/8/2022 at 10:36 AM, sometimewoodworker said:

Ours was around ฿16,000 it’s a sliding gate and the opening speed isn’t that fast so giving enough time to avoid the close, it also has a safety at the hight of a child that will reverse the closing.

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Jesus, is that including the gate, because I just had a steel gate 5 metres wide, 2 metres tall made, materials 6,000 baht, labour 1,500 baht, now if I were to add 16,000 baht to have it become an auto gate, I wouldn't bother.

[sometimewoodworker]

  On 3/14/2022 at 12:55 AM, 4MyEgo said:

Jesus, is that including the gate, because I just had a steel gate 5 metres wide, 2 metres tall made, materials 6,000 baht, labour 1,500 baht, now if I were to add 16,000 baht to have it become an auto gate, I wouldn't bother.

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Just because you have a gate that’s twice the weight and a fraction if the size of our for a low price has no influence on the cost of automation.

What did your 7,500 buy you?

 

during fitting 

 

 

apart from having all its wheels, its closing attachments and a motor it’s the same today, the only maintenance required in 8 years has been occasional lubricant on the wheels and a snake extraction 

 

 

[4MyEgo]

  On 3/14/2022 at 3:22 AM, sometimewoodworker said:

What did your 7,500 buy you?

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Similar to yours, no stainless steel finish, and it's light enough, the steel is spaced more apart, say 200mm to each space if you follow.

 

The motor sounds pricey if I were to buy one to do the job on it's own ?

 

Steel is up today as well, so your fence would have cost you a lot more to build today.

[Saanim]

GH has been selling over many years a cheap slide opener for 10,000 Baht, working for me well even with quite a heavy gate. Whereas some other shops were always ca. 20,000 and more.

 

Now, the GH is offering few more cheaper types, some for 7,000. (additional cost for the rail).

     

[sometimewoodworker]

  On 3/14/2022 at 5:18 AM, 4MyEgo said:

Similar to yours, no stainless steel finish, and it's light enough,

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Since ours is stainless steel it’s almost certainly half the weight of an or bigger equivalent steel one.

[Yellowtail]

  On 3/14/2022 at 5:49 AM, sometimewoodworker said:

Since ours is stainless steel it’s almost certainly half the weight of an or bigger equivalent steel one.

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Why, because it is stronger you use thinner/less material/tubing?  

[sometimewoodworker]

  On 3/14/2022 at 8:23 AM, Yellowtail said:

Why, because it is stronger you use thinner/less material/tubing?  

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IDK I’m not a materials specialist, however it’s simple to check, just try lifting same sized structures for yourself.

 

Quite possibly because you can use thinner material as there is (as long as you use the correct grade of SS and proper welding technique) no chance of rust compromising the strength of the structure over time, as opposed to steel that, even if galvanised, needs several costs of finish to protect it.

[lopburi3]

  On 3/14/2022 at 8:37 AM, sometimewoodworker said:

IDK however it’s simple to check, just try lifting same sized structures for yourself.

 

Quite possibly because you can use thinner material as there is (as long as you use the correct grade of SS and proper welding technique) no chance of rust compromising the strength of the structure over time, as opposed to steel that, even if galvanised, needs several costs of finish to protect it.

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Actually rust is not a big issue if you avoid right angles - round steel pipe for frame and bent steel strips for design works fine.  But for electric would go lighter types - looking at the minority electric mooban gates here in Bangkok my guess is that 90% have no working safety stops after a few years use.  To me that is a real issue.